EMGs

Firebeard · 07-09-2006, 08:55 PM

I personally LOVE an EMG 85 at the bridge but feel I'm in the minority. From what I read the EMG 707 is 85 guts in a 35DC shell. Why do people love them for 7s but would rather an 81 in their 6? Are the 81-7s hard to get or out of production? And is the housing the only difference? I've heard things like "They may call it the same and add a 7 but it has a totally different tone" about some other companies. As soon as I can sell a few of my 6s I'm going head on into either an RG w/ EMGs or an LTD H-207 w/o them. (Is it possible to put EMGs in the H-207 with that carve top?)

Emperoff · 07-10-2006, 10:11 AM

Yeah, the Jackson COW is arch-top and has an emg 707.

I'm pretty sure that almost everyone that has a 707 in the bridge is because the 81-7 is pretty hard to get. As far as I know, it can only be found on ESP/Ltd guitars and through www.guitarpartsdepot.com

zimbloth · 07-10-2006, 10:13 AM

The 707 isn't purely an 85. It's more of a blend between the 85 and 81. I talked to the people at EMG before about it, it's definitely a new design.

D-EJ915 · 07-10-2006, 10:15 AM

The 707 is pretty much the Dino pickup as it was made at his request.

noodles · 07-10-2006, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-EJ915

well...the COW has the 81-7...

The 707 is pretty much the Dino pickup as it was made at his request, the 81-7 is kind of a response to that to make their offerings for 7-strings like the 6-strings but I guess it's kind of the COW model...you could say.

Sorry, but you're wrong. The COW uses a 707, as it says on Jackson's site. I'd recognize a 81-7, because my Stars had one in it when I bought. It's a very thin, sterile sounding pickup. Then again, that is my opinion of the 81, so I'm biased.

jtm45 · 07-10-2006, 10:20 AM

The general concensus seems to be that the 707 is much more popular than the 81-7.
There's plenty of places (or a few at least)that have the 81-7 for sale so i don't think it's a case of not being able to get them.

I have a 707 in a 7 and an 81 (and 85 combo)in a 6 and they definately don't sound the same to me.

Elysian · 07-10-2006, 10:27 AM

guitar center can order 81-7's...

zimbloth · 07-10-2006, 10:30 AM

Any EMG dealer can. Guitarpartsdepot is just the only one who sell them online is all.

Mr. S · 07-10-2006, 10:55 AM

Machinehead in the UK does both, now which is better as a neck pup and vice versa? i know its subjective as hell but would i be right in saying if i wanted a 81/85 (bridge-neck) like in my six, then the best combo for a seven would be 81-7/707

zimbloth · 07-10-2006, 11:00 AM

Yes that would be right.

Mr. S · 07-10-2006, 11:03 AM

horray for my master detective skills

bostjan · 07-10-2006, 08:48 PM

It the same housing, neither is easy to get, but they aren't hard to get as long as you have the internet or live near an authorized EMG dealer. The 81-7 is crunchy as hell, but the 707 is still crunchy. Neither make really great neck pickups IMO, but they are the best rhythm bridge pickups I've come across so far.

Emperoff · 07-10-2006, 08:49 PM

Hmmm the EMG that Dino designed wasn't the EMG707DC?

Maybe is just a name and are the same pup...

Dylan7620 · 07-10-2006, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikt

in many intervews Dino mention that when EMG was working with him on the 707 design they made a limited run of those pickups (first year production of this model or even something like pre factory). Then they decided to change something I don't remember what was that all about, less highs or something and today it is a normal 707.

I know that some time ago 707DC were for sale on some websites. and theye are actives too (bostjan so please mark it in right place)

EDIT: I found only this one on the web. I remember that there were some reviews on HC but that was like 3 years ago and now I don't see them. Could someone aske some people How 707DC sound comparing to normal 707 and is it custom and can we still buy it??

http://www.ibanez.co.jp/world/pluged...o_cazares.html

"IBANEZ: What about your guitars?
DINO: I’m using custom made Ibanez 7-string RG’s, with EMG 707-DC model pickups, but I also like the regular EMG 707 pickups. I just have a chorus pedal for effect when I do the clean tones. I’m a pretty straightforward, ripping kind of guy (laughs)."

from said thread: The big list of pickups (7 only)

jtm45 · 07-10-2006, 09:51 PM

I would imagine the one in my guitar is a 707DC as the guitar was made for Dino in 2001.
It does sound slightly different to other (newer) 707's i've tried but they've been in quite different guitars to mine so it's hard to give them an equal comparison really.

Brord · 08-04-2006, 03:11 AM

I like to have some beef in my sound and not sound like a razor.... I think I'd prefer dual 707's or a 707 in the bridge position and a 81-7 in the neck position.... It sounds more balanced to me.

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07-09-2006, 08:55 PM	#1
Firebeard Viking Lord Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 819 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	EMGs I personally LOVE an EMG 85 at the bridge but feel I'm in the minority. From what I read the EMG 707 is 85 guts in a 35DC shell. Why do people love them for 7s but would rather an 81 in their 6? Are the 81-7s hard to get or out of production? And is the housing the only difference? I've heard things like "They may call it the same and add a 7 but it has a totally different tone" about some other companies. As soon as I can sell a few of my 6s I'm going head on into either an RG w/ EMGs or an LTD H-207 w/o them. (Is it possible to put EMGs in the H-207 with that carve top?) Sæmunder Firebeard

07-10-2006, 10:15 AM	#4
D-EJ915 <3's Tsukasa Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 18,749 Thanked: 220 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	The 707 is pretty much the Dino pickup as it was made at his request. əBCAir

07-10-2006, 10:55 AM	#9
Mr. S tacos? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 2,566 Thanked: 29 Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Machinehead in the UK does both, now which is better as a neck pup and vice versa? i know its subjective as hell but would i be right in saying if i wanted a 81/85 (bridge-neck) like in my six, then the best combo for a seven would be 81-7/707 Knights that say

07-10-2006, 11:03 AM	#11
Mr. S tacos? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 2,566 Thanked: 29 Feedback Score: 7 reviews	horray for my master detective skills Knights that say

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07-10-2006, 10:11 AM	#2
Emperoff Hasta la vista, Baby Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 3,026 Thanked: 17 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Yeah, the Jackson COW is arch-top and has an emg 707. I'm pretty sure that almost everyone that has a 707 in the bridge is because the 81-7 is pretty hard to get. As far as I know, it can only be found on ESP/Ltd guitars and through www.guitarpartsdepot.com

07-10-2006, 10:13 AM	#3
zimbloth Nick // Axe Palace Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 16,664 Thanked: 179 Feedback Score: 47 reviews	The 707 isn't purely an 85. It's more of a blend between the 85 and 81. I talked to the people at EMG before about it, it's definitely a new design.

07-10-2006, 10:20 AM	#6
jtm45 SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hoshino,South Wales,U.K. Posts: 2,230 Thanked: 23 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	The general concensus seems to be that the 707 is much more popular than the 81-7. There's plenty of places (or a few at least)that have the 81-7 for sale so i don't think it's a case of not being able to get them. I have a 707 in a 7 and an 81 (and 85 combo)in a 6 and they definately don't sound the same to me.

07-10-2006, 10:27 AM	#7
Elysian Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 6,629 Thanked: 43 Feedback Score: 22 reviews	guitar center can order 81-7's...

07-10-2006, 10:30 AM	#8
zimbloth Nick // Axe Palace Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 16,664 Thanked: 179 Feedback Score: 47 reviews	Any EMG dealer can. Guitarpartsdepot is just the only one who sell them online is all.

07-10-2006, 11:00 AM	#10
zimbloth Nick // Axe Palace Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 16,664 Thanked: 179 Feedback Score: 47 reviews	Yes that would be right.

07-10-2006, 08:48 PM	#12
bostjan Spastic Kitchen! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: St. Johnsbury, VT USA Posts: 7,564 Thanked: 15 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	It the same housing, neither is easy to get, but they aren't hard to get as long as you have the internet or live near an authorized EMG dealer. The 81-7 is crunchy as hell, but the 707 is still crunchy. Neither make really great neck pickups IMO, but they are the best rhythm bridge pickups I've come across so far. [URL="http://sites.google.com/site/bostjanzupancickhereb/"[/URL]

07-10-2006, 08:49 PM	#13
Emperoff Hasta la vista, Baby Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 3,026 Thanked: 17 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Hmmm the EMG that Dino designed wasn't the EMG707DC? Maybe is just a name and are the same pup...

07-10-2006, 09:51 PM	#15
jtm45 SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hoshino,South Wales,U.K. Posts: 2,230 Thanked: 23 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I would imagine the one in my guitar is a 707DC as the guitar was made for Dino in 2001. It does sound slightly different to other (newer) 707's i've tried but they've been in quite different guitars to mine so it's hard to give them an equal comparison really.

08-04-2006, 03:11 AM	#16
Brord Furor Teutonicus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Noord-Brabant, Nederland Posts: 348 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I like to have some beef in my sound and not sound like a razor.... I think I'd prefer dual 707's or a 707 in the bridge position and a 81-7 in the neck position.... It sounds more balanced to me.

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