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Unread 04-20-2010, 02:41 PM   #26
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side thought
I should put blue LEDS in this bastard for awesomeness
or just a really bright white light activated by sound 8D

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Unread 04-20-2010, 02:46 PM   #27
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if your having problems with the wiring just for sound,i would personally put the wiring of leds on the back burner.
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this is the easiest way for me to explain all this without typing it lol

http://www.dimarzio.com//media/diagrams/4Conductor.pdf

black and white go together and stay together, tape them up.
red goes to hot,green AND bare go to ground.
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I can't see it
just tell me what wire is what and tell me where it goes and we're golden
and I'd so have the LEDS on a separate thing
like 9 volt to LEDS lol

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I'm starting to think its the PU
I tried dead on to the jack input and its buzzing like a bitch man

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I'm starting to think its the PU
I tried dead on to the jack input and its buzzing like a bitch man
Have you tried reversing the polarity on the jack? Maybe you have it backwards.

Are you sure it's not the amp or the power? It could even be the cable.
Try switching guitars or amps, or move the amp to a different room.
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Have you tried reversing the polarity on the jack? Maybe you have it backwards.

Are you sure it's not the amp or the power? It could even be the cable.
Try switching guitars or amps, or move the amp to a different room.
polarity? sorry I'm a nub on all levels
and its not the wire
and its not the amp
switched to my 6 string and its fine
no hum no nothin but sound from the guitar
so its not the amp or power
this is stressing me out beyond belief I just want to play my guitar
tell me how to make the wires go straight to the jack
red is hot
green and bare are ground
black and white go together and theres this little black wire that grounds to the metal string saddle but I put that shit on anything and it buzzes like crazy
I'm about to utterly annihilate my guitar.
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theres this little black wire that grounds to the metal string saddle but I put that shit on anything and it buzzes like crazy
By "reversing the polarity", I mean connecting the wires to the jack in the opposite way (connect the green, bare, and black [bridge] wires to the spot where the red wire is currently connected, and vice versa).

That little black wire should be connected to the ground on the jack, along with the green and bare wires.
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well
I got it fixed BUT
I need to ground the jack.....so you say little black wire that goes to the string saddle?......well its kinda too short for it ;-; not my fault though 8D

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I need to ground the jack.....so you say little black wire that goes to the string saddle?......well its kinda too short for it ;-; not my fault though 8D
You just want to make sure that all of the ground wires are connected to each other. If the bridge wire is too short, you'll need to connect another wire to the end of it to extend it. It's kind of tricky, but see if you can solder another wire to the end. Then cover the joint with electrical tape to keep it from shorting.
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well I have all the grounds well grounded and theres still a buzz and I know its the input Jack cause I touch the jack plate and it silences all buzz

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you sure your on the right lugs of the jack? do you have another guitar or pics to compair? i noticed a link to the jack but you may have missed somethin
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funny thing is,at the same time im giving you advice on passives i have a thread asking for help on actives lol. i have never wired actives just passives. so far actives kinda make more sense lol. i guess i will see when i start working instead of studying different schematics lol.
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well I have all the grounds well grounded and theres still a buzz and I know its the input Jack cause I touch the jack plate and it silences all buzz
Actually, your jack is probably fine. I'm thinking you might have a ground loop. I might have the same problem, now that I think about my configuration. Check out the ground loop section on this page: Alexplorer's Axe Hacks: All About Grounding
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yeah no, I don't have a loop and all the grounds are grounded as far as I can tell.do I need to post a pic so you guys can see whats goin on?

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yeah no, I don't have a loop and all the grounds are grounded as far as I can tell.do I need to post a pic so you guys can see whats goin on?
That might help, but if it's not a ground loop, I'm stumped.
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I don't think the black and white wires from the pup are supposed to be grounded. They're just supposed to be connected to each other.
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I don't think the black and white wires from the pup are supposed to be grounded. They're just supposed to be connected to each other.
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Weird... Well first of all, do you have any solder, or have you just been using the solder that was already there? Because that soldering job looks absolutely nasty, and you should probably try to redo the connections if you can (you might have some bad joints).

Second, since I'm having the same problem with the same guitar, and we have pretty much eliminated every other possibility, I think maybe it's time to consider adding some shielding. I tried connecting the ground in my guitar to the back of another pot (the tone pot I removed) and the hum decreased, so maybe it just needs some more metal in there to absorb the noise?
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Weird... Well first of all, do you have any solder, or have you just been using the solder that was already there? Because that soldering job looks absolutely nasty, and you should probably try to redo the connections if you can (you might have some bad joints).

Second, since I'm having the same problem with the same guitar, and we have pretty much eliminated every other possibility, I think maybe it's time to consider adding some shielding. I tried connecting the ground in my guitar to the back of another pot (the tone pot I removed) and the hum decreased, so maybe it just needs some more metal in there to absorb the noise?


......lol....I did that solder job XD.....I know it sucks
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found the problem.Ibanez RG7321's have a wire grounding out to the string saddle and my wire slipped somehow or it was shorting out.Either way replacing the wire and gonna solder or super glue it to the string saddle

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found the problem.Ibanez RG7321's have a wire grounding out to the string saddle and my wire slipped somehow or it was shorting out.Either way replacing the wire and gonna solder or super glue it to the string saddle
Great! So the hum goes away when it's connected? Is that the same wire you were talking about before, or are there two wires coming from the bridge area?
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found the problem.Ibanez RG7321's have a wire grounding out to the string saddle...
It does? Holy shit! Can you please take pictures of it then?

I think I might have found the problem of my buzzing as well! Whenever I touch the output jack or anything connected to the signal path (toneport for example) the buzzing ceases... Same stuff here, Rg7321, Evo7, redone all soldering, ground is fine. Could be the tone pot or the pickup switch, but I never saw a wire coming from the saddles (bridge) so maybe this is the problem...

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