sevenstring guitars   sevenstring registry   photo gallery  merch
Sevenstring.org - The Seven String Guitar Authority
home groups support us register
Go Back  
 
User: 
Pass:  
Pickups, Electronics & General Tech - Pickup selection, wiring, technical questions & other guitar hardware discussion here.
Welcome to sevenstring.org! You are currently viewing the site as a guest which gives you limited access to most features.
Most ad placements do not show to registered members. Register Now!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-07-2006, 12:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
...is bitching
 
Jerich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: ridley park PA
Posts: 1,879

Real Name: Billy
Main Seven: agile guitars,Testicles.
Main ERG: Lute!
Rig: Brunetti EVO=BALLS

Thanked: 15

Jerich is a splendid one to beholdJerich is a splendid one to beholdJerich is a splendid one to beholdJerich is a splendid one to beholdJerich is a splendid one to behold
Shims,shimms.shimes?

So i am not sure if this has ever been talk of before...but here goes...almost every custom guitar I get is Loaded with shims (spelling unknown during typing time) in between the nut and the neck at the top of the headstock...I was wondering what is the best material to use for the lower distorted guitar. I have gotten guitars with wood...Brass...and aluminum shims.....it is only on the Neck thru guitars i have...i do not have any bolt on's even knowing i am sure there are a few out there...has anyone the answer? I am guessing that Brass shims would be best for tone transfer?

Brunetti Amplifiers
View Jerich's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2006, 12:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
ss.org Regular
 
Elysian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 3,913

Real Name: Adam
Main Seven: Elysian Custom Guitars
Thanked: 21

Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/
the thing about the nut... it only affects the tone of open strings, as when you are fretting, the tone transfer happens at the fret not the nut... wood, brass, aluminum, all are good, it all ultimately goes to wood anyways.
View Elysian's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2006, 08:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
...is bitching
 
Jerich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: ridley park PA
Posts: 1,879

Real Name: Billy
Main Seven: agile guitars,Testicles.
Main ERG: Lute!
Rig: Brunetti EVO=BALLS

Thanked: 15

Jerich is a splendid one to beholdJerich is a splendid one to beholdJerich is a splendid one to beholdJerich is a splendid one to beholdJerich is a splendid one to behold
yeah but..some might disagree with useing wood..in which would have more effect on it during humidity...verses Brass or aluminum in which is not effected at all...I am replacing all my shims as we speak with Brass....
View Jerich's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2006, 08:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
The Church of SEVEN
Super Moderator
 
eaeolian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Woodbridge, VA
Posts: 10,645

Real Name: Mike
Main Seven: Jackson CS Soloist 7
Rig: Mesa Triple Recto

Thanked: 52

eaeolian is the bastard son of Dio himself.eaeolian is the bastard son of Dio himself.eaeolian is the bastard son of Dio himself.eaeolian is the bastard son of Dio himself.eaeolian is the bastard son of Dio himself.eaeolian is the bastard son of Dio himself.eaeolian is the bastard son of Dio himself.eaeolian is the bastard son of Dio himself.eaeolian is the bastard son of Dio himself.eaeolian is the bastard son of Dio himself.eaeolian is the bastard son of Dio himself.eaeolian is the bastard son of Dio himself.eaeolian is the bastard son of Dio himself.
I've used aluminum under locknuts for years. I've never noticed any tone issues, and the big craft store chains sell sheets of it in multiple thicknesses.

Division - American metal that doesn't suck. Much. Even on MySpace, and Soundclick, too.
View eaeolian's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2006, 02:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
BEHOLD KLUMPAMUS PRIME!
 
theunforgiven246's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Ohio
Posts: 1,385

Real Name: John
Main Seven: Ibanez RG 7621
Rig: 5150 combo and vsts

Thanked: 13

theunforgiven246 is just really nicetheunforgiven246 is just really nice
ummm... i use cardboard...

my girlfriend says i'm totally METAL!
balls.
View theunforgiven246's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2006, 05:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
dpm
RnB causes cancer
 
dpm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
Posts: 2,786

Real Name: Dan
Main Seven: Old UV
Main ERG: Oni 8 string
Rig: modded Laney VC50

Thanked: 18

dpm is the epitome of metal.dpm is the epitome of metal.dpm is the epitome of metal.dpm is the epitome of metal.dpm is the epitome of metal.dpm is the epitome of metal.dpm is the epitome of metal.dpm is the epitome of metal.dpm is the epitome of metal.
I use Schaller locknut shims which are brass and stainless depending on thickness. Metal shim material is good purely because it's accurate and can allow very small adjustments. Wood is good too for thicker shims. Cardboard will compress so it's a bit hit and miss, plastic I suppose will work too but it tends to be slippery and the locking nut is more likely to slip.
There's so much mass in a locking nut that I doubt much would have a perceivable tonal effect providing it's all seated correctly and firmly bolted.
View dpm's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2006, 01:26 AM   #7 (permalink)
ss.org Regular
 
that guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: San Antonio .TX
Posts: 588

Real Name: matt
Main Seven: non-existent
Rig: B-52 stealth series

Thanked: 0

that guy is headed in the right direction.
buisness card from the store of your choice

smokey the bear is way more intense in person
View that guy's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2006, 01:39 AM   #8 (permalink)
NUDE MAN!
 
LordOVchaoS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Warrensburg, MO
Posts: 3,969

Real Name: Joe
Main Seven: Xiphos 7-string+blackouts
Rig: Engl SE->Vader

Thanked: 56

LordOVchaoS is deemed true by Crom himselfLordOVchaoS is deemed true by Crom himselfLordOVchaoS is deemed true by Crom himselfLordOVchaoS is deemed true by Crom himselfLordOVchaoS is deemed true by Crom himselfLordOVchaoS is deemed true by Crom himselfLordOVchaoS is deemed true by Crom himselfLordOVchaoS is deemed true by Crom himselfLordOVchaoS is deemed true by Crom himselfLordOVchaoS is deemed true by Crom himselfLordOVchaoS is deemed true by Crom himselfLordOVchaoS is deemed true by Crom himself
Quote:
Originally Posted by that guy
buisness card from the store of your choice
That's what I use. My UV came from Eric with some brass shims but after a stiring gauge change the lower strings needed a but more of a shim so I hacked up a business card and went at it. I didn't notice any difference in tone. As Elysian said, as soon as you fret a note your strings aren't vibrating against the nut.

www.bodenhamer-electronics.com

the official gain merchant of sevenstring.org.
View LordOVchaoS's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2006, 11:13 AM   #9 (permalink)
...is bitching
 
Jerich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: ridley park PA
Posts: 1,879

Real Name: Billy
Main Seven: agile guitars,Testicles.
Main ERG: Lute!
Rig: Brunetti EVO=BALLS

Thanked: 15

Jerich is a splendid one to beholdJerich is a splendid one to beholdJerich is a splendid one to beholdJerich is a splendid one to beholdJerich is a splendid one to behold
I think the answers here were killer....I was just refering to the fact will a metallic shim be better then wood or plastic..But the word is across the board..it doesn't matter...I figured Brass would be the better one considering most of the Custom guitars i have had made by BC Rich...Cloe...LAG have all had...Brass shims.I am guessing if you were a Tap touch guitar player similar to a WARR guitar a metallic shim would transfer tone better.....
View Jerich's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2006, 04:25 PM   #10 (permalink)
dpm
RnB causes cancer
 
dpm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
Posts: 2,786

Real Name: Dan
Main Seven: Old UV
Main ERG: Oni 8 string
Rig: modded Laney VC50

Thanked: 18

dpm is the epitome of metal.dpm is the epitome of metal.dpm is the epitome of metal.dpm is the epitome of metal.dpm is the epitome of metal.dpm is the epitome of metal.dpm is the epitome of metal.dpm is the epitome of metal.dpm is the epitome of metal.
I think the the huge amount of metal already in a locking nut and it's hardness (both points relative to fretwire) make the shim material properties fairly irrelevant. Also, the locking nut is mechanically coupled (ie. bolted/screwed) to the neck which will play a part too.
View dpm's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Shims Vince Standard Guitars 11 07-21-2006 02:03 AM

The Seven String Guitar Authority
 Raleigh Music Academy Soloway Guitars Angel Vivaldi
 Eric Clemenzi Ra Fans Vince LuPone
 The Guitar Workshop Tremol-No Division
 Michael Sherman Guitars Out of this Swirled Drew Peterson
Powered by vBulletin 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
"777" Logo © Darren Wilson
Content © 2008 Sevenstring.org LLC - Privacy Policy
Affiliate Links Directory


  One of the largest message boards on the web !

RSS  Add to My Yahoo!  Add to iGoogle