Schaller Locking Tuners and Thick Gauge Strings = Sad Face...

bulb · 06-05-2006, 02:08 AM

So i was trying to fit my 56 low b string on my jp7 and behold: it didnt fit!!
so i was like omgvolcano!1 wtf do i do about that?
Is there an easy DIY fix?

bostjan · 06-05-2006, 02:22 AM

A .056" didn't fit through the post hole? Weak!

How wide is the post whole? Does it look like there is enough material to drill it out?

Elysian · 06-05-2006, 02:37 AM

with my sperzel tuners(yeah, not schaller) i couldn't fit my 60 guage low string, so what i did was clip the string to where it would have just gone through the hole, then unwound it right up to where the hole opened up. did the trick quite nicely

dpm · 06-05-2006, 04:40 AM

That post can be drilled out, not a problem.

noodles · 06-05-2006, 02:37 PM

A .060 will fit through, no problem. Schaller locking tuners are like virigins: it's hard to get it in the first time. Try a string that has some unwound "lead" to it, and then slowly pull it through.

I think the locking mechanism doesn't fully seat itself until you string up the first time.

Shannon · 06-05-2006, 02:42 PM

it's a simple fix....drill it.

noodles · 06-05-2006, 03:08 PM

^ Unlike Spertzels, the lock mechanism cannot be dropped out of the bottom of the tuner by removing the thumb screw. The locking post is also spring loaded. I'm not quite sure how to safely drill it without damagin the locking mechanism.

eaeolian · 06-05-2006, 03:18 PM

I thought so. Dan has a solution:

http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sho...711#post106711

Mind Riot · 06-05-2006, 10:38 PM

I would just unwind the outermost winding of the string so it fits. That's what I did with the .070", and it still grabbed just fine. BUT the .070" was double wound so there was still an inside winding to grab, I'm not sure if a .056" is only one wind over a plain. Might be a bit trickier if that's the case, but hey, plain strings still manage to stay.

nyck · 06-05-2006, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mind Riot

I would just unwind the outermost winding of the string so it fits. That's what I did with the .070", and it still grabbed just fine. BUT the .070" was double wound so there was still an inside winding to grab, I'm not sure if a .056" is only one wind over a plain. Might be a bit trickier if that's the case, but hey, plain strings still manage to stay.

Good trick thanks.

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bostjan Spastic Kitchen! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 6,076 Main Seven: Oni Custom 7 Main ERG: Oni Custom 8 Rig: Mesa Dual Recto Thanked: 6	A .056" didn't fit through the post hole? Weak! How wide is the post whole? Does it look like there is enough material to drill it out? Khereb's myspace

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Elysian CrabClaw Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 4,560 Real Name: Adam Main Seven: Elysian Custom Guitars Thanked: 26 $Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Elysian is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	with my sperzel tuners(yeah, not schaller) i couldn't fit my 60 guage low string, so what i did was clip the string to where it would have just gone through the hole, then unwound it right up to where the hole opened up. did the trick quite nicely Sign your negative rep.

06-05-2006, 02:37 PM	#5
noodles I'm your huckleberry • Super Moderator • Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 17,642 Real Name: Dave Main Seven: KxK V7 - The Emo Killer Rig: Roadster/GMaj/4x12 Thanked: 291	A .060 will fit through, no problem. Schaller locking tuners are like virigins: it's hard to get it in the first time. Try a string that has some unwound "lead" to it, and then slowly pull it through. I think the locking mechanism doesn't fully seat itself until you string up the first time. Noodles Division: American Metal without the suck. sales@kxkguitars.com "Somewhere along the way, the Straight Talk Express lost some wheels..." --Barack Obama on John McCain

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06-05-2006, 04:40 AM	#4
dpm RnB causes cancer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Posts: 2,808 Real Name: Dan Main Seven: Old UV Main ERG: Oni 8 string Rig: modded Laney VC50 Thanked: 19	That post can be drilled out, not a problem.

06-05-2006, 03:08 PM	#7
noodles I'm your huckleberry • Super Moderator • Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 17,642 Real Name: Dave Main Seven: KxK V7 - The Emo Killer Rig: Roadster/GMaj/4x12 Thanked: 291	^ Unlike Spertzels, the lock mechanism cannot be dropped out of the bottom of the tuner by removing the thumb screw. The locking post is also spring loaded. I'm not quite sure how to safely drill it without damagin the locking mechanism.

06-05-2006, 03:18 PM	#8
eaeolian The Church of SEVEN • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 8,076 Real Name: Mike Main Seven: Jackson CS Soloist 7 Rig: Mesa Triple Recto Thanked: 30	I thought so. Dan has a solution: http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sho...711#post106711 Division - American metal that doesn't suck. Much. Even on MySpace, and Soundclick, too.

06-05-2006, 10:38 PM	#9
Mind Riot Devoted seven stringer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 690 Thanked: 2	I would just unwind the outermost winding of the string so it fits. That's what I did with the .070", and it still grabbed just fine. BUT the .070" was double wound so there was still an inside winding to grab, I'm not sure if a .056" is only one wind over a plain. Might be a bit trickier if that's the case, but hey, plain strings still manage to stay.

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