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Old 01-09-2008, 08:08 PM   #21
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That was away fucking cool! I totally dig the look of the pickup.

Hand wound pups are the shit. I'm obsessed with my Lundgren pup. I never had such clarity come from a passive pup.

Definitely post more pics man! I'm really diggin this.
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:39 PM   #22
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Hand wound pups are the shit. I'm obsessed with my Lundgren pup. I never had such clarity come from a passive pup.
Aren't Lundgrens machinewound?


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Old 01-09-2008, 10:54 PM   #23
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Thats sweet! I'm in the process of building a pickup winder based off of Jason lollar's design.

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Hand wound refers to the guiding of the wire back and forth across the bobbin. You'd be hard pressed to find a pickup that was literally wound by hand.

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Cheers all! I thought this might be a cool thing to see in detail. I was initially very tentative about getting into this pickup thing because of the lack of real information available, it's all shrouded in mystery mojo bullshit. Turns out I already had a decent understanding of the basic principles involved. It's not that different to cooking, once you get an idea of how the ingredients interact you can predictably alter the end result.
do you have Jason Lollar's "basic pickup winding and Complete guide to making your own pickup winder"? It went out of print about 30 years ago but i managed to obtain one....
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:02 PM   #24
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Hand wound refers to the guiding of the wire back and forth across the bobbin. You'd be hard pressed to find a pickup that was literally wound by hand.
I'm aware of that, what I meant is I'm fairly sure Lundgrens are precision wound by machines.
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Old 01-10-2008, 12:12 AM   #25
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Ozzy is right. lundgrens are precisionwound, by machine, as opposed to scatterwound. Bareknuckles are done by machine, but hand guided and scatterwound. lundgrens are not. not that its a bad thing, its just different

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Old 01-16-2008, 08:13 AM   #26
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Okeydokey, I've finally updated the original post with some more pics. Enjoy!
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Old 01-16-2008, 08:23 AM   #27
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:06 PM   #28
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Sweet - nice to see the whole process Dan

Love the ebony - I don't usually think of pickups as good looking but yours definitely are.
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:31 PM   #29
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A note on scatter winding : The problem with industrial pickups is they are "accurate wound" which mean each wire turn lye next to the precedent in a very regular pattern. This is causing a parasitic capacitance which tend to cut high frequencies and mush up the lows. That's why scatter winding sounds more open, punchier, cleaner.
Lundgren's, believe it or not, are accurate wound (I asked the man himself about that as I'm such a geek ) so it means you could get really good pickups even with accurate winding, but needs a bit more love and involvement you can't get with mass production.

I'm in the process on gathering hardware, tools and material to build my own pickups, I hop I'll get to the point of actually doing something usable


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Old 01-23-2008, 09:50 AM   #30
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One thing about pickups that I'll relate from personal experience (and take it at that, if you may) is that anyone who says that a certain gauge or a certain kind of winding or a certain magnet doesn't make a good tone will eventually eat his or her words. There are a lot of variables that can be played with to drastically alter the tone of the pickup. Most pickup makers keep things secretive, so it's very difficult to find a decent source of this information.

This Oni pickup looks great! I've long thought that guitars would look more exciting if the hardware was designed more aesthetically. The carbon fiber base plate would look particularly cool on an acryllic guitar. Too bad acryllic weighs a lot and sounds so weird.

Dan, I think the way you boldly approach things like pickup design and such really shows your talent for making instruments. Perhaps some day you may find time to design an Oni amplifier that blows everything else away, too.
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