[DIMARZIO] Evo7 / Blaze vs. Activators (2/7 series)

Sawyer · 12-25-2007, 08:05 PM

Howdy Folks,
Im thinking about getting new pickups for my 7321.I always heard good stuff about that evo7 and blaze but today a guy told me that the newer activator pickups made by dimarzio are great as well. Actually he compared them to those EMG´s (81)
What I am looking for,is a powerful and hard sound e.g. korn. (He also told me that korn is using emg´s and that´s why I REALLY got interested in opening this thread)

There are 2 kinds of these activator pickups ,a 719/720 and 219/220 ... and I don´t really know which is the better one.

I´d like to know what you guys can recommend to me...
Thanks in advance,
Sawyer

technomancer · 12-25-2007, 08:14 PM

This belongs in the Pickups, Electronics & General Tech section... anyways

IIRC Korn uses DiMarzio PAF7 pickups, before their sig models they used Blazes in Universe guitars

The pickups the guy was talking about are DiMarzio D Activators and there is a bridge and a neck pup and nothing else for sevens, check the DiMarzio website. Everybody that's used them here seems to think they sound sterile and lifeless.

Eric · 12-25-2007, 08:16 PM

Korn uses EMGs? Wouldn't that piss off their Dimarzio endorsment? Also, isn't there only DP 719 and 720? I have never seen any other type of D-Activator pickup... D-Activators are fequently compared to EMGs. I have a pair but they haven't been installed yet. I could be wrong, but that guy sounds like he may be talking out his

Psychoface · 12-25-2007, 08:19 PM

Korn uses EMG's? first ive heard... i mean the K7 and APEX both have dimarzio pickups....

technomancer · 12-25-2007, 08:23 PM

The guy is definitely talking out his ass...

The 219/220 are the six string D Activators

Psychoface · 12-25-2007, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by technomancer

The guy is definitely talking out his ass...

The 219/220 are the six string D Activators

he prolly doesnt know 7321's is a 7 stringer

Eric · 12-25-2007, 08:26 PM

Anyway, as for a reccomendation, Air Nortons are always great neck pickups, Evos are well liked even though they are too middy for me, and Blaze Customs are probably my favorite bridge.

skinhead · 12-25-2007, 08:26 PM

Munky uses PAFs on his guitars IIRC. A low gain pickup. But they use triple recs, so they have a nice amount of distortion.

Psychoface · 12-25-2007, 08:27 PM

erics right the evo's have abit much mid expecially if your playing korn stuff, and they tend to get feedback because they are a very hot pickup

Eric · 12-25-2007, 08:27 PM

PAFs do sound great if you have something to boost the gain after the fact. They are very smooth, clear, and articulate.

Psychoface · 12-25-2007, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric

PAFs do sound great if you have something to boost the gain after the fact. They are very smooth, clear, and articulate.

good point, what amp and setup are you planning on running it through? if its a smaller practise amp you may need the extra gain

Shooter · 12-25-2007, 08:38 PM

Korn definatley uses Dimarzio Pafs... that's what my K-7 has. They sound great. The only time I've ever heard of Korn using EMGs is in the Ibanez 8-string, and that's just cuz they're stock... for all I know, they could've swapped them out for Dimarzios. I'm about to get a D-Activator for the bridge in my 7621 (already have the Air Norton ready and waiting to be installed), which is virtually identical to your 7321... I'll let you know how that sounds. Always cool to see another Korn fan.

Sawyer · 12-25-2007, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by technomancer

The guy is definitely talking out his ass...

The 219/220 are the six string D Activators

Oh man sorry I just saw this is site is called sevenstring.org and my 7321 really has 7 strings...

Didnt saw that info about those 2xx...

edit: Im still a little bit confused...My amp is just a home one,so nothing special.

Eric · 12-25-2007, 09:37 PM

Well what sound are you going for? A distinctly Korn sound?

TonyFlyingSquirrel · 12-25-2007, 09:39 PM

Pardon my ignorance, but what is IIRC?

ohio_eric · 12-25-2007, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyFlyingSquirrel

Pardon my ignorance, but what is IIRC?

If I Recall Correctly

Apex1rg7x · 12-26-2007, 01:53 AM

If I Remember Correctly?

Either or i guess

Sawyer · 12-26-2007, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric

Well what sound are you going for? A distinctly Korn sound?

yup

That´s why I bought a 7-string

TonyFlyingSquirrel · 12-26-2007, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohio_eric

If I Recall Correctly

Thank you.

ibznorange · 12-26-2007, 02:05 PM

well. to get a very korn sound youre goign to have to follow the whole rig, which is expensive. if you want that tone, id say pafs are good, but youre going to need alot of gain afterwards, from an amp modeler, distortion pedal, or an amp. if you want to push less gain later, the evo is really good in the bridge, but wont have quite the same tone

Shooter · 12-26-2007, 03:45 PM

^Yea. And what exactly do you mean by THE Korn sound? The guitars sound totally different on the last two records, and even the Issues album sounds way different from say, the first one. On the last records, I believe Munky was running like 4 heads and 8 cabinets at once... now THAT rig would be expensive. But for the older sound, like the first couple of records, you'd need a K-7 or Universe with Pafs or Blazes, plus a Triple Recto and maybe a distortion pedal (Digitech Metal Master and Electro-Harmonix Big Muff Pi come to mind) not to mention all the crazier effects... all very pricey, like ibnzorange said.

The Dark Wolf · 12-26-2007, 03:50 PM

People, people... Actually, you can get darn close to the Korn sounds with -

1. 7-string guitar tuned to A standard, with medium strings, preferably standard scale.
2. Medium to low output humbuckers. Nothing too aggresive
3. A modern amp modeler.

There you go. Shoot for more Recto-type sounds, and those pedals have plenty of FX that will easily get you in the ballpark. Trying to EXACTLY replicate Munky's rig? Unnecessary, and hell... you may not even like it after you're done.

MF_Kitten · 12-26-2007, 04:04 PM

Wolf is right. you just need A standard tuning, medium-low output pickups that have some growl and clarity, a nice amp/distortion, and some FX... not a whole lot to it.

a fat-sounding distortion is recommended, and the effects you'll want are chorus and flanger, and a whammy if you want to spend some more cash. the effects go in front of the distortion for that cool sound

Sawyer · 12-26-2007, 05:03 PM

Im not a millionaire like munky is. I don´t even need that much ,since this is just for home.
Id like to have a low and hard sound. First Im gonna buy a whammy pedal (digitech) ... But are those PAFs really THE choice ?
Oh,and I dont mean the sound from See you on t.o.s. or Untitiled.I mean their REALLY good and older stuff.

Apex1rg7x · 12-26-2007, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sawyer

Im not a millionaire like munky is. I even don´t need that much ,since this is just for home.
Id like to have a low and hard sound. First Im gonna buy a whammy pedal (digitech) ... But are those PAFs really THE choice ?
Oh,and I dont mean the sound from See you on t.o.s. or Untitiled.I mean their REALLY good and older stuff.

The OLD stuff was played with old UV's equipped with blazes and then Life is Peachy and Follow the Leader they used Custom RG7620's. Alot of that stuff was played through Mesa Triple Rectifiers and modded Marshall heads. Im not sure when they switched to using the Dimarzio PAF's though. Thats the older gear i think.

12-25-2007, 08:05 PM	#1
Sawyer ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Germany -_- Posts: 52 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	[DIMARZIO] Evo7 / Blaze vs. Activators (2/7 series) Howdy Folks, Im thinking about getting new pickups for my 7321.I always heard good stuff about that evo7 and blaze but today a guy told me that the newer activator pickups made by dimarzio are great as well. Actually he compared them to those EMG´s (81) What I am looking for,is a powerful and hard sound e.g. korn. (He also told me that korn is using emg´s and that´s why I REALLY got interested in opening this thread) There are 2 kinds of these activator pickups ,a 719/720 and 219/220 ... and I don´t really know which is the better one. I´d like to know what you guys can recommend to me... Thanks in advance, Sawyer

12-25-2007, 08:14 PM	#2
technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 12,474 Thanked: 84	This belongs in the Pickups, Electronics & General Tech section... anyways IIRC Korn uses DiMarzio PAF7 pickups, before their sig models they used Blazes in Universe guitars The pickups the guy was talking about are DiMarzio D Activators and there is a bridge and a neck pup and nothing else for sevens, check the DiMarzio website. Everybody that's used them here seems to think they sound sterile and lifeless. __________________ Incoming Guitars KxK Sii-7ex - 25.5", ss frets, rosewood/ebony neck, ebony board, black limba wings, figured bubinga top KxK Sii-7 - 25.5", ss frets, white limba neck, ebony board, white limba wings, OFR7, gloss white KxK DCii-6 - 25", ss frets, cocobolo neck & board, limba body, flame koa top

12-25-2007, 08:23 PM	#5
technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 12,474 Thanked: 84	The guy is definitely talking out his ass... The 219/220 are the six string D Activators __________________ Incoming Guitars KxK Sii-7ex - 25.5", ss frets, rosewood/ebony neck, ebony board, black limba wings, figured bubinga top KxK Sii-7 - 25.5", ss frets, white limba neck, ebony board, white limba wings, OFR7, gloss white KxK DCii-6 - 25", ss frets, cocobolo neck & board, limba body, flame koa top

12-25-2007, 08:26 PM	#8
skinhead Manager / RHLC © Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 5,598 Thanked: 52	Munky uses PAFs on his guitars IIRC. A low gain pickup. But they use triple recs, so they have a nice amount of distortion. __________________ Back to da 'hood (sevenstring.org)

12-25-2007, 08:38 PM	#12
Shooter Drinkin' a Pizza Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vallejo,Ca Posts: 266 Thanked: 6	Korn definatley uses Dimarzio Pafs... that's what my K-7 has. They sound great. The only time I've ever heard of Korn using EMGs is in the Ibanez 8-string, and that's just cuz they're stock... for all I know, they could've swapped them out for Dimarzios. I'm about to get a D-Activator for the bridge in my 7621 (already have the Air Norton ready and waiting to be installed), which is virtually identical to your 7321... I'll let you know how that sounds. Always cool to see another Korn fan. __________________ Myspace.com/FakeCandy

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12-25-2007, 08:16 PM	#3
Eric Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: AZ Posts: 1,569 Thanked: 36	Korn uses EMGs? Wouldn't that piss off their Dimarzio endorsment? Also, isn't there only DP 719 and 720? I have never seen any other type of D-Activator pickup... D-Activators are fequently compared to EMGs. I have a pair but they haven't been installed yet. I could be wrong, but that guy sounds like he may be talking out his

12-25-2007, 08:19 PM	#4
Psychoface SS.org Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 527 Thanked: 5	Korn uses EMG's? first ive heard... i mean the K7 and APEX both have dimarzio pickups....

12-25-2007, 08:27 PM	#9
Psychoface SS.org Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 527 Thanked: 5	erics right the evo's have abit much mid expecially if your playing korn stuff, and they tend to get feedback because they are a very hot pickup

12-25-2007, 09:37 PM	#14
Eric Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: AZ Posts: 1,569 Thanked: 36	Well what sound are you going for? A distinctly Korn sound?

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12-26-2007, 01:53 AM	#17
Apex1rg7x Agent of Chaos Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 1,435 Thanked: 14	If I Remember Correctly? Either or i guess

12-26-2007, 02:05 PM	#20
ibznorange Chief Officer/RHLC © Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 8,328 Thanked: 59	well. to get a very korn sound youre goign to have to follow the whole rig, which is expensive. if you want that tone, id say pafs are good, but youre going to need alot of gain afterwards, from an amp modeler, distortion pedal, or an amp. if you want to push less gain later, the evo is really good in the bridge, but wont have quite the same tone __________________ Reverse Headstocks or Bust ALL HEIL THE ADMINISHREDDER!

12-26-2007, 03:45 PM	#21
Shooter Drinkin' a Pizza Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vallejo,Ca Posts: 266 Thanked: 6	^Yea. And what exactly do you mean by THE Korn sound? The guitars sound totally different on the last two records, and even the Issues album sounds way different from say, the first one. On the last records, I believe Munky was running like 4 heads and 8 cabinets at once... now THAT rig would be expensive. But for the older sound, like the first couple of records, you'd need a K-7 or Universe with Pafs or Blazes, plus a Triple Recto and maybe a distortion pedal (Digitech Metal Master and Electro-Harmonix Big Muff Pi come to mind) not to mention all the crazier effects... all very pricey, like ibnzorange said. __________________ Myspace.com/FakeCandy

12-26-2007, 03:50 PM	#22
The Dark Wolf *Canis lupis obscurus* Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toledo, Ohio. USA Posts: 15,488 Thanked: 94	People, people... Actually, you can get darn close to the Korn sounds with - 1. 7-string guitar tuned to A standard, with medium strings, preferably standard scale. 2. Medium to low output humbuckers. Nothing too aggresive 3. A modern amp modeler. There you go. Shoot for more Recto-type sounds, and those pedals have plenty of FX that will easily get you in the ballpark. Trying to EXACTLY replicate Munky's rig? Unnecessary, and hell... you may not even like it after you're done. __________________ http://www.wolf.org

12-26-2007, 04:04 PM	#23
MF_Kitten Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lillehammer, Norway Posts: 5,687 Thanked: 218	Wolf is right. you just need A standard tuning, medium-low output pickups that have some growl and clarity, a nice amp/distortion, and some FX... not a whole lot to it. a fat-sounding distortion is recommended, and the effects you'll want are chorus and flanger, and a whammy if you want to spend some more cash. the effects go in front of the distortion for that cool sound

12-26-2007, 05:03 PM	#24
Sawyer ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Germany -_- Posts: 52 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Im not a millionaire like munky is. I don´t even need that much ,since this is just for home. Id like to have a low and hard sound. First Im gonna buy a whammy pedal (digitech) ... But are those PAFs really THE choice ? Oh,and I dont mean the sound from See you on t.o.s. or Untitiled.I mean their REALLY good and older stuff.

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