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Unread 04-27-2007, 02:22 PM   #51
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You're, what, 23? There's no way in ....ing hell you should NEED blood pressure medication at your age.
There are some genetic issues that can affect people of all ages with diagnosed hypertension.

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Unread 04-27-2007, 02:25 PM   #52
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I have heart diesease on both sides of the family....and cancer on my dad's side. In the end, I'm screwed, but I'd rather know if there is something more than just my diet affecting my pressure right now.

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So knowing your family history, why would you choose to have such a shitty diet and smoke two packs a day?

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So knowing your family history, why would you choose to have such a shitty diet and smoke two packs a day?

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We? Are you referring to yourself, gramps?
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We? Are you referring to yourself, gramps?
And... you were born old?

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Yes, that's why my eye sight is failing and didn't read your post right

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So knowing your family history, why would you choose to have such a shitty diet and smoke two packs a day?

People don't wake up and say, "Gee! I think I'll start ruining my health today!"

Don't you have any conception of human psychology? People fall into these habits over time, and always underestimate the dangers when it's early.

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HOnestly, I didn't even notice just how far out of control my smoking and soda habits were until recently. And looking back, I could see that it's been that way for awhile. I thought I was still hitting a pack a day, which while not healthy, is certainly better than 2 packs a day. So even though I knew my family history, I didn't know how bad my habits were and had never intended for them to be as bad as they are.

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^ Exactly. It creeps up on ya.

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Yep. I know I've always drank alot of soda, but it's never seemed to be as much as it really is.

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*snort*

Sounds like the title of some strange existential indy film, Bill.

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People don't wake up and say, "Gee! I think I'll start ruining my health today!"

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Yeah, i'm a complete moron with absolutely no understanding of human nature.

I'm sorry, but any adult who knows that their family has a history of heart disease and cancer should be smart enough to think, "Gee, maybe it wouldn't be a good idea to smoke two packs of cigarettes and drink a 12-pack of soda a day."

Come on... common sense hasn't completely left the planet, has it?
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Yeah, i'm a complete moron with absolutely no understanding of human nature.

I'm sorry, but any adult who knows that their family has a history of heart disease and cancer should be smart enough to think, "Gee, maybe it wouldn't be a good idea to smoke two packs of cigarettes and drink a 12-pack of soda a day."

Come on... common sense hasn't completely left the planet, has it?

yes...yes it has...and I want a cigarette
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Great, Darren. And it's oh so easy to break those bad habits.

Apparently you don't realize how people really operate. You tend to make these blanket judgments, assuming everyone can and should operate perfectly rationally. Joe is starting to wake up. But ...., dude, people die every day from easily avoided problems, according to your so-called "common sense." The force of habit and addiction is unfortunately generally much stronger. And like I said, no one wakes up and says they'd like to be addicted.

Spare the hyperbole, please. How does lacking some psychological understanding equal complete moron? Besides, I reserve that title for myself.

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You don't need meds dude. That's a terrible mindset to get in. Meds are needed when your body can't naturally correct itself.

Your problem is that you lead a VERY unhealthy lifestyle, namely with the outrageous amounts of sugar you take in every day. Skip the meds and start taking care of yourself.
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Im with TDW per usual.. The most important thing is Joe has realised he needs to change.. So why dog him and kick him in the nuts? To you guys he is some dude behind a keyboard to me he is a good friend. Lighten up. K? Thanks

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Maybe the fact you are dehydrated could be a factor for your headaches plus the high blood pressure. You need to be drinking lots of water to get your pH levels balanced. With all the sugar, salt and toxins you're inhaling it's no wonder your blood pressure is so high. Definitely get some blood work done too. The results will give you a good indication of where you're headed and what needs to be done. Good luck dude!
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That's also a good point... all that soda contains a lot of caffeine (which could also be a contributing factor in itself) and caffeine is a diuretic, so you're probably "eliminating" a heck of a lot of water.

I won't bitch any more. I'm glad Joe has had the wake-up call, and i hope he gets it all sorted out.
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I won't bitch any more. I'm glad Joe has had the wake-up call, and i hope he gets it all sorted out.
I'm also very glad Joe got the wake-up call. It was really irritating that we were telling him how unhealthy it was, but he wouldn't listen, saying he hadn't had any problems up until now. And I'm not saying it was irritating because we were being told we were wrong. It was irritating because Joe was denying the obvious reality of the harm he was doing to himself. Now that he's accepted that reality, he can finally change his lifestyle and fix his health. And, for that, I'm very glad.
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