Any cognitive science fans in here?

guitarneeraj · 06-13-2012, 05:18 PM

Research Shows That the Smarter People Are, the More Susceptible They Are to Cognitive Bias : The New Yorker

Jakke · 06-13-2012, 06:15 PM

Seems resonable, the more agile the mind, the more adept at rationalization and other excercises.

guitarneeraj · 06-13-2012, 11:40 PM

^ Actually that's not the point of the article. It's main point is that more intelligent people actually tend more towards making logical mistakes!

Explorer · 06-14-2012, 02:00 AM

There's a few premises which I suspect are true:

People who aren't practiced in thinking would have to invent a method for solving a particular problem from scratch. Therefore, they would take much longer to find a solution.

Those who have success using shortcuts will trust those shortcuts. If they used them and didn't have success over the years in most circumstances, then there's be no positive reinforcement to reward their use.

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I've witnessed engineers and carpenters teaching each other shortcuts for normal workday problems. One of the best exchanges I remember even now was at a job while in my twenties, when there was a corner fix needed on a construction job. One guy told the foreman that something could be accomplished easily. The foreman gave the guy a pencil and said, "Teach me something." I thought that was brilliant, and have always used such situations at work as learning opportunities ever since.

Let's take the two ends of the spectrum, Albert Einstein and that chick who couldn't do math to save her life. Remember her?

Embarrassingly dim girl fails at math

Which one do you think is going to have more confidence in their answer on a math problem? Obviously Einstein would have experience at doing math correctly, so he's going to assume he's better than Dim Girl.

I think they're looking at a narrow group while doing this testing, and unless they're trying to say that members of the Westboro Bible Church are all geniuses, I think their conclusions are mistaken.

But maybe I'm biased.

*laugh*

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06-13-2012, 05:18 PM	#1
guitarneeraj WindMarp Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Markneukirchen, Germany Posts: 363 Thanked: 9 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Any cognitive science fans in here? Research Shows That the Smarter People Are, the More Susceptible They Are to Cognitive Bias : The New Yorker

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06-14-2012, 02:00 AM	#4
Explorer He seldomly knows... Join Date: May 2009 Location: Formerly from Cucaramacatacatirimilcote... Posts: 3,695 Thanked: 40 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	There's a few premises which I suspect are true: People who aren't practiced in thinking would have to invent a method for solving a particular problem from scratch. Therefore, they would take much longer to find a solution. Those who have success using shortcuts will trust those shortcuts. If they used them and didn't have success over the years in most circumstances, then there's be no positive reinforcement to reward their use. ---- I've witnessed engineers and carpenters teaching each other shortcuts for normal workday problems. One of the best exchanges I remember even now was at a job while in my twenties, when there was a corner fix needed on a construction job. One guy told the foreman that something could be accomplished easily. The foreman gave the guy a pencil and said, "Teach me something." I thought that was brilliant, and have always used such situations at work as learning opportunities ever since. Let's take the two ends of the spectrum, Albert Einstein and that chick who couldn't do math to save her life. Remember her? Embarrassingly dim girl fails at math Which one do you think is going to have more confidence in their answer on a math problem? Obviously Einstein would have experience at doing math correctly, so he's going to assume he's better than Dim Girl. I think they're looking at a narrow group while doing this testing, and unless they're trying to say that members of the Westboro Bible Church are all geniuses, I think their conclusions are mistaken. But maybe I'm biased. laugh If you don't care enough to research your own question, why should anyone else care more? "Pay no attention to his long winded posts... (Explorer) seldomly knows what he's talking about." Adam Of Angels "Actual knowledge and a google bookmark are very different things." Anonymous neg-repper

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06-13-2012, 11:40 PM	#3
guitarneeraj WindMarp Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Markneukirchen, Germany Posts: 363 Thanked: 9 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	^ Actually that's not the point of the article. It's main point is that more intelligent people actually tend more towards making logical mistakes!