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Unread 03-29-2012, 06:35 AM   #151
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This is now all over my Facebook feed from people who don't even post on here. I don't see the big deal. What's disgusting here? That a mother, who has raised her kid since day #1 has concerns over her sons future? How unreasonable of her.

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Unread 03-29-2012, 06:36 AM   #152
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Just being "happy" while disregarding everything and everyone else isn't something I've set myself as a goal. In fact, it's not even within my definition of "happy." I admit that my social life has been impeded, if you will, by my playing guitar, much more than if I hadn't started, as I'm sure it has been for almost everyone on this site. But I strive to maintain a balance.
Everybody has his vision of happiness but you say that you "strive to maintain a balance". It doesn't sounds like happiness to me.

Yes I know that you have to moderate the way you live to be happy in the end.

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The conclusion I've come to, and the main point that I wanted to convey, is simple: If society accuses you of doing nothing... For doing nothing... Then you've lost your right to complain. I think that basically summarizes the way I see it.
Yes you can't complain for something your responsible for, but there his mother is just spitting her hatred toward him. I can't stand this, being a parent is a sacred task to me (though I'm not one), you have to take care of the life beginning of a human being.

For those who say that they would beat their parents it's the best way to show that you're wrong. You should rather talk to them and if they are narrow minded it's better to ignore them (assuming that what they say is nonsense).
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Unread 03-29-2012, 06:44 AM   #153
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Ugh, this is turning into kony.
Kind of sad how everyone all of a sudden begins to care even though he posted the vid ages ago. GG

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Unread 03-29-2012, 07:02 AM   #154
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Ugh, this is turning into kony.
Kind of sad how everyone all of a sudden begins to care even though he posted the vid ages ago. GG
You're pretty amazing for having seen the video when it first came out I must say
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Axle, that's not how it was at all if I recall. I remember being pissed then and I'm pissed now. Nice try to counter a trend though. You've laid your cards on deck now scurry off, plz.

RGD, someone asked already but he's not the only one curious about it. If one of us sent you an axe to play on, would she confiscate it? Also, if and when you get out let us know if she won't come up off the axes. I'm sure there's more than one of us that would lend you a hand. Hell, I've got an RG520q I'm not playing any more...

Also, do what you can to let her words roll off your back. You can't fix her but she's clearly got issues. Don't let those issues become yours. It breaks my heart to see another person have a parent who is a complete role model for what no one wants to be. I had to deal with it growing up, it ....ing blew but she served her purpose. It will get better once you're gone and not under her thumb. Just do what you can to hold out.
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Unread 03-29-2012, 10:01 AM   #156
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Everybody has his vision of happiness but you say that you "strive to maintain a balance". It doesn't sounds like happiness to me.

Yes I know that you have to moderate the way you live to be happy in the end.
You seem to be contradicting yourself there. You don't think that striving to maintain a balance is good, but you also think that balance (moderation) is necessary to live happily. I don't see how, or why, maintaining a balance in life would have to be so negatively stressful on the subject so as for him not to be happy.

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Yes you can't complain for something your responsible for, but there his mother is just spitting her hatred toward him. I can't stand this, being a parent is a sacred task to me (though I'm not one), you have to take care of the life beginning of a human being.
You misinterpreted my post. I wholeheartedly agree with you on this. I think I said it before. I do NOT agree with the way his mother is voicing the issue. It's downright demeaning and unnecessarily aggressive. I was merely postulating a hypothetical case in which he didn't perform any other activities outside of playing guitar, and then I went on to analyze it.

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I was just thinking, because this whole thing has been eating at me for the last couple of days, mainly because of disgust, that maybe your mother expects you to get some high paying job as a lawyer or surgeon because she failed miserably at some point in her life to attain a similar position. She probably thinks "I'm going to have a son that brings me money." She clearly has no sight of what a musical career, be it sound engineering, producing, or just playing could bring. I think she's only out for one thing, and that's her own well being.

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Unread 03-29-2012, 10:55 AM   #158
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You seem to be contradicting yourself there. You don't think that striving to maintain a balance is good, but you also think that balance (moderation) is necessary to live happily. I don't see how, or why, maintaining a balance in life would have to be so negatively stressful on the subject so as for him not to be happy.
I think I get what he meant. The use of the word 'strive'. I.e. He does not think either balance or imbalance is bad in itself, but if you have to 'strive to maintain' balance rather than it just naturally occuring, then it implies you'd be happier not doing so.
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Unread 03-29-2012, 11:03 AM   #159
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I think I get what he meant. The use of the word 'strive'. I.e. He does not think either balance or imbalance is bad in itself, but if you have to 'strive to maintain' balance rather than it just naturally occuring, then it implies you'd be happier not doing so.
Aaah yes, you're right, somehow I didn't see that. My mistake, then. I could've worded it differently. But anyway, I think the point in that last post is clear

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Mike, let me give you my (unwanted) opinion of this situation.

GO TO G4 AND PLAY ON TV.

When I was a senior in high school, my band directors encouraged me to pursue music in college. I was afraid that I wasn't good enough or that I wouldn't be able to make any money. Now it's 12 years later and I wish I would have at least given a music career a shot in some form. Maybe I wouldn't be a big name now, but I could be working with music in other ways. I play music every day, I listen to music almost non-stop at work, I whistle when I'm working without music, and I play music in my head when I'm running. This is what music is to me and I have a feeling you feel at least somewhat similar.

Give it a shot and if it doesn't work out, you're obviously a smart guy and can pursue other things in life. The worst that can happen is you been an internet star for a bit and you use it to get some nerdy girl in college. The best is that you can further yourself musically.
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Unread 03-29-2012, 01:21 PM   #161
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When you are a minor, anything you own is property of the parents, so the fact that I paid for it doesn't mean anything technically.
I'm not sure this is entirely accurate. If you have a job, that money belongs to you, same with assets. Might want to honestly contact a lawyer. And in this case, I absolutely would.

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Unread 03-29-2012, 01:53 PM   #162
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I've seen that video before. I've actually been subscribed to your channel for a couple years now.

I'm not going to speak ill of your mother. I probably should but I was raised not to so I'd feel bad if I did but you should really find your gear and leave. Bum off of friends until you can afford a place. It sucks but it's better than what you have.

...., does she KNOW how much money you spent on that rig? Unless there's some law against it in California, I'd have the police on her ass to get your stuff back. That shit's not cheap. And it's not hers either.

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Pointing out that something is old compared to the time it got recognized and pushing it aside for that sole reason is on par with saying "First." on threads. I won't even begin to point out the differences between this and Kony. Being viral is about the only similarity. People shared it on Facebook and it spread. It's apparently invalid because it happened later than yesterday? Clownshoes.

Mom's concerns are unreasonable because she's scolding and punishing him. Scolding and punishing usually result from bad behavior. I would be beyond thrilled with my child if he had a 4.0 who socializes on the regular and who shreds like that AND paid for 5k worth of gear by himself. He literally is doing nothing wrong and being scolded. Nothing. It's one thing if he's misbehaving. He's not.

Granted it's ONLY his side of the story we're hearing, but if it's truth, then I can't see how you could just write it off. This is the only point of contention for supporting this kid that I can come up with.



I'm really sorry some people see that as allowable parenting. I also hope you never become parents. My mother used to come watch me play guitar when I sat down to play and always supported me. After I was 12, my birthday and xmas presents were almost always music related. Neither of my parents had a huge interest in music, but they knew that I did and supported it as much as they could. Even when I was disciplined or grounded or whatever, they would never take my guitar away. Maybe TV or video games or leaving the house. Never my guitar. My mother hates "that screaming shit". But she'd NEVER tell me to stop playing it without a joking smile on her face.


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Unread 03-29-2012, 04:05 PM   #164
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Pointing out that something is old compared to the time it got recognized and pushing it aside for that sole reason is on par with saying "First." on threads. I won't even begin to point out the differences between this and Kony. Being viral is about the only similarity. People shared it on Facebook and it spread. It's apparently invalid because it happened later than yesterday? Clownshoes.

Mom's concerns are unreasonable because she's scolding and punishing him. Scolding and punishing usually result from bad behavior. I would be beyond thrilled with my child if he had a 4.0 who socializes on the regular and who shreds like that AND paid for 5k worth of gear by himself. He literally is doing nothing wrong and being scolded. Nothing. It's one thing if he's misbehaving. He's not.

Granted it's ONLY his side of the story we're hearing, but if it's truth, then I can't see how you could just write it off. This is the only point of contention for supporting this kid that I can come up with.



I'm really sorry some people see that as allowable parenting. I also hope you never become parents. My mother used to come watch me play guitar when I sat down to play and always supported me. After I was 12, my birthday and xmas presents were almost always music related. Neither of my parents had a huge interest in music, but they knew that I did and supported it as much as they could. Even when I was disciplined or grounded or whatever, they would never take my guitar away. Maybe TV or video games or leaving the house. Never my guitar. My mother hates "that screaming shit". But she'd NEVER tell me to stop playing it without a joking smile on her face.


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Concern for your child does not require discipline. Misbehavior does. Ask questions, guide your child. He's already planning on Electrical Engineering. But don't chastise him because you have a ....ing opinion that doesn't agree with what he likes. She's belittling everything that means something to him. Anyone who thinks that mom is within her bounds scares the shit out of me.

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And why compare this with Kony? Thats pretty low, IMO.
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Guys, the biggest issue you're overlooking is that this woman isn't privy to listening to reason which means arguing/debating with her is basically pointless. In order to reason with someone, they must first be reasonABLE - which she clearly is not, so as much fun as it is pointing out all the flaws in her argument; she doesn't hear a ....ing WORD of it and none of it matters to her because at this point she's already made up her mind about his amp, and his guitars, and him playing music, and so on.

Does it suck to have to see that? Yeah, very much so because it's a shitty situation. Is that the truth though, that she really won't listen to reason? Given what Mike himself has said, yup, so there's not much we can do.
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I have a pounding migraine, Im under an enormous amount of pressure at work which is causing me to stress right the .... out, Im on next to no sleep. My 6 year old is now onto her 10th rendition of twinkle twinkle little star and is now moving on to the muffin man and I can't imagine going to her room an telling her to stop singing now matter how badly I just want the noise to stop because I know she's the star of her own little show right now and having the time of her life. It surprises me, and disappoints me, that any parent would discourage there kid from taking the time to excel at an instrument. There is so much shit a kid can get themselves into these days, I just can't understand her logic.
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I remember that vid, and your thread about depression. I'm really sorry to hear the situation has gotten worse and your guitar has been taken away. Good luck with everything... I am sure life will get better!
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I'm just being silly. But no I was actually talking to my friend about this thread yesterday and he said shes probably a drunk...

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lol wut, I haven't even checked up on this thread since I posted it! But yeah, I didn't even know that this was a repost, or I would have just bumped his old thread instead. It's good to see how many of you guys care about this though!
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Any society that would make someone feel entitled to lay that much shit on another human being for developing talent isn't worth contributing to.

That is the exact opposite of what parenting is all about. To echo a sentiment that has come up a bit in this thread, Mike needs to do whatever it takes to get out of dodge, then never speak to her again. People like that are poison, pure and simple.

I can understand that you want your kids to have a good start in life and do better than you did but I'd say that since Mike isn't a soulless, cancer of a human being then he has already achieved far and beyond what his mother ever will.

My heart goes out to you Mike, I don't know how you could be so calm and patient through such a disgusting display of shitty parenting. You're a bigger man than I.
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Hey! It's this thread again.
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Well, since I dragged my ass into this thread again...

Any news on what happened to his kid?

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