Someone told me today " real musicians dont play 8 string guitars) - Page 2

HaMMerHeD · 03-16-2012, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vostre Roy

Fixed

Also, a real guitarist plays a guitar, no wonder the number of strings?
Just get that one to piss him off: Schecter Vault - A5-X (2000-2001)A5-X (2000-2001) - Schecter Guitar Research

5 strings guitar > 6 strings guitar, following his logic

Would be badass with a proper headstock.

iRaiseTheDead · 03-16-2012, 01:59 PM

By 'tuning' to A minor, did he mean A flat? lol

Shredin0id · 03-16-2012, 02:46 PM

His real logic: God dammit that neck it too big!!! I'll just show off music theory I've heard from some guitar noob forums to teach him a lesson! Now if you excuse me, I have to work on my smoke on the water intro, with an Epiphone!

The Norsemen · 03-16-2012, 02:57 PM

USED Schecter 1999 DIAMOND SERIES C-5X Baritone Black Left Handed 5-String Electric Guitar

If you're left handed, you should get this 5 string^
That way you'll automatically be better than him.

I've only met a handful of people like that. Probably because the nearest Guitar Center is 3 hours away in Albuquerque.
Most people I meet at shows are dumbfounded.
I have other guitarists stand stage left and watch me play at almost every show.
Like the music I make (Not very groundbreaking I assure you) is somehow more wonderous on an 8 string.

You should call that asshole out.
I'm not an 8th string player, but I certainly don't think you have to use every single string on your guitar all the time.
I bet that prick doesn't use all 6 of his and if he does they're probably some sloppy sweeps and lugata runs.

Konfyouzd · 03-16-2012, 02:59 PM

*keeps on keepin on*

SenorDingDong · 03-16-2012, 03:03 PM

Lirtle · 03-16-2012, 03:10 PM

Let me get some luguta cheese with that

Faine · 03-16-2012, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Norsemen

they're probably some sloppy sweeps and lugata runs.

HAHA

Genome · 03-16-2012, 04:40 PM

We haven't even got onto sharp scales and deferent moods.

ronjhoser · 03-16-2012, 05:01 PM

Imagine what your boy could do with a banjo...

Waelstrum · 03-16-2012, 05:04 PM

I like the way that he seems to imply that you can only chug on an 8 string, so if you want to do that you should tune you 6 string down. But with the extra high strings that come with an 8 you can do much more than just chug, and when you down tune a 6 that reduces the higher notes that you could play, thus making it more likely that you only want to chug.

Also, whenever someone is (frankly inexpertly) trolling, they seem to use no punctuation at all. This renders it quite hard to read, and makes them seem like a 10 year old that's trying to tell you something real important about pokemon but they can't seem to get the words out fast enough.

AngstRiddenDreams · 03-16-2012, 05:19 PM

Furtive Glance · 03-16-2012, 05:55 PM

Lulz. Considering putting this in the meme thread now...

EDIT: haha, someone made one already. Win. I ....ed up the ... spelling... of the nonexistant word too, anyway.

Faine · 03-16-2012, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furtive Glance

Lulz. Considering putting this in the meme thread now...

EDIT: haha, someone made one already. Win. I ....ed up the ... spelling... of the nonexistant word too, anyway.

LMFAO!!!

Electric Wizard · 03-16-2012, 08:55 PM

I'm glad I don't know anyone with the audacity to be so ....ing rude. How old is this kid?

Facebook encourages the most mind-bending egotism sometimes, I swear. Karma is on your side though OP. He may have fooled a person or two into thinking he's some musical expert, but now he's got our whole website laughing at him.

You should show him the stuff from the meme thread that's already been made.

squid-boy · 03-16-2012, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faine

HIM : "8 anyway of the week lets see you do 12 bar arpeggios with luguta tapping on a sharp scale in deferents moods back in fourth on a 8 string bet you everything won't be possible lol"

Necris · 03-16-2012, 10:13 PM

That is what happens when someone with little to no working knowledge of theory or playing techniques tries to make an argument while referencing them.

The Beard · 03-16-2012, 10:56 PM

Waelstrum · 03-16-2012, 11:52 PM

I think I may have figured out the English translation of "12 bar arpeggios with luguta tapping on a sharp scale in deferents moods back in fourth on a 8 string". If we take "12 bar" to mean 12 bar blues, then that would indicate the (approximate) chord structure. I then agreed with "luguta tapping" meaning legato tapping, or perhaps two hand tapping, as previously stated in this thread. Then there is "a sharp scale" to contend with. Is it any scale that has any sharp notes? Does he mean a sharp key? Is the lower case "a" actually meant to be an upper case "A" to indicate the note? I reckon the translation to be "In the key of A#", which is a tediously silly key because Bb (a much more straight forward key) makes the key of A# redundant on equal tempered instruments like most guitars. The phrase "deferents moods back in fourth" I believe to be mostly typing errors. "Deferents" should be "different" and "moods" should be "modes". When read with the rest of the phrase it should mean switching between modes, either to create a jazzy outside feel or by employing the pitch axis idea in a Joe Satriani style. This is in contradiction with the arpeggios mentioned earlier, so maybe he wanted them one after the other, or perhaps he wanted an Allan Holdsworth style note choice where you can imply a chord by playing notes that 'fit' that chord, and therefore by extension any mode that fits that chord, and therefore any arpeggio from that mode, creating an outside feel whilst still having the notes vaguely fit.

TLDR:"Lets see you do 12 bar arpeggios with luguta tapping on a sharp scale in deferents moods back in fourth on a 8 string bet you everything won't be possible lol" roughly translates as "I would like to see a video of you performing legato tapped arpeggios based on a variety of modes that fit with a Bb 12 bar blues progression."

JeffFromMtl · 03-17-2012, 01:34 AM

8=====D ~ ~ ~ \(o.O)/

... Whatever.

EtherealEntity · 03-17-2012, 03:02 AM

Haha yeah..this shit makes me rage. Or laugh. Not sure which.

I am really, really looking forward to posting pics of my ridiculously fanned fret 9 string on Facebook when it arrives. I'm very curious the comments I will get from all the little shits on my contacts, especially given the little comments I've received about my 6 string bass and 7 string guitar from my immediate friends - actual educated musicians/engineers

Anticipating things such as:
-Buy a bass
-Ugly as ....
-Impossible to play
-The neck is bent

Faine · 03-17-2012, 08:21 AM

Haha the neck is bent !

Dan · 03-17-2012, 08:33 AM

I agree. 8 string guitars are for pussies who cant luigi tap, I can play the same thing with my dental floss.

Fiction · 03-17-2012, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan

I agree. 8 string guitars are for pussies who cant luigi tap, I can play the same thing with my dental floss.

I AM NOW A TECHNIQUE, MWUHAHAHA

SenorDingDong · 03-17-2012, 09:40 AM

Real musicians don't talk about "real musicians do/don't..."

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03-16-2012, 02:46 PM	#28
Shredin0id I Need an 8-String Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 57 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	His real logic: God dammit that neck it too big!!! I'll just show off music theory I've heard from some guitar noob forums to teach him a lesson! Now if you excuse me, I have to work on my smoke on the water intro, with an Epiphone!

03-16-2012, 03:10 PM	#32
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03-16-2012, 04:40 PM	#34
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03-16-2012, 05:04 PM	#36
Waelstrum All Fourths Advocate Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,123 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I like the way that he seems to imply that you can only chug on an 8 string, so if you want to do that you should tune you 6 string down. But with the extra high strings that come with an 8 you can do much more than just chug, and when you down tune a 6 that reduces the higher notes that you could play, thus making it more likely that you only want to chug. Also, whenever someone is (frankly inexpertly) trolling, they seem to use no punctuation at all. This renders it quite hard to read, and makes them seem like a 10 year old that's trying to tell you something real important about pokemon but they can't seem to get the words out fast enough. SchecterWhore, highlordmugfug, Deadnightshade and 4 others like this. I'm not a hipster, I just act like it ironically. Learning is metal as ..... - SchecterWhore

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03-16-2012, 08:55 PM	#40
Electric Wizard Thrillhouse Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: WI Posts: 575 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I'm glad I don't know anyone with the audacity to be so ....ing rude. How old is this kid? Facebook encourages the most mind-bending egotism sometimes, I swear. Karma is on your side though OP. He may have fooled a person or two into thinking he's some musical expert, but now he's got our whole website laughing at him. You should show him the stuff from the meme thread that's already been made. mlp187, highlordmugfug, Metal_Webb and 1 others like this.

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03-16-2012, 11:52 PM	#44
Waelstrum All Fourths Advocate Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,123 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think I may have figured out the English translation of "12 bar arpeggios with luguta tapping on a sharp scale in deferents moods back in fourth on a 8 string". If we take "12 bar" to mean 12 bar blues, then that would indicate the (approximate) chord structure. I then agreed with "luguta tapping" meaning legato tapping, or perhaps two hand tapping, as previously stated in this thread. Then there is "a sharp scale" to contend with. Is it any scale that has any sharp notes? Does he mean a sharp key? Is the lower case "a" actually meant to be an upper case "A" to indicate the note? I reckon the translation to be "In the key of A#", which is a tediously silly key because Bb (a much more straight forward key) makes the key of A# redundant on equal tempered instruments like most guitars. The phrase "deferents moods back in fourth" I believe to be mostly typing errors. "Deferents" should be "different" and "moods" should be "modes". When read with the rest of the phrase it should mean switching between modes, either to create a jazzy outside feel or by employing the pitch axis idea in a Joe Satriani style. This is in contradiction with the arpeggios mentioned earlier, so maybe he wanted them one after the other, or perhaps he wanted an Allan Holdsworth style note choice where you can imply a chord by playing notes that 'fit' that chord, and therefore by extension any mode that fits that chord, and therefore any arpeggio from that mode, creating an outside feel whilst still having the notes vaguely fit. TLDR:"Lets see you do 12 bar arpeggios with luguta tapping on a sharp scale in deferents moods back in fourth on a 8 string bet you everything won't be possible lol" roughly translates as "I would like to see a video of you performing legato tapped arpeggios based on a variety of modes that fit with a Bb 12 bar blues progression." BigBaldIan, Dan, The Beard and 5 others like this. I'm not a hipster, I just act like it ironically. Learning is metal as ..... - SchecterWhore

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