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Unread 11-19-2011, 06:06 PM   #51
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I just realized that you're also the one who's on your parents' insurance, and who hasn't had his car repaired from the last couple of accidents.

Someone just hit my parked car kinda

You pulled out in front of another car and got hit. You haven't done anything about repairing the older stuff.

Adding that thread to this one, do you think you're really ready to move out?

I'm hoping you'll look at all this and take it as a wake up call, altering what you need to in order to start moving forward....
explorer, my car is as repaired as i can get it by myself.
lots of screws and a 2x4 reside in there.

not to mention the back axle was completely bent, and i unbent it with the help of another 2x4 and a tire jack for a truck. after enough pressure the 2x4 shot across the street. i am lucky nobody died lol.

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Unread 11-19-2011, 07:19 PM   #52
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While I kinda agree with the people that already pointed-out that you might not be set to move out on your own AND that going to school is a great idea...

...have you checked-out something like Task Rabbit? I saw a news article on TV about it- it's a service where people who need small odd jobs done (transporting things, putting-together furniture, etc.) put out solicitations for bids and you can bid on those assignments. They claim that they're somehow able to keep everything on the up-and-up. Anyway, in between efforts to get a steady job, it might be a nice resource to pick up a few bucks here and there.
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Unread 11-19-2011, 08:09 PM   #53
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Marine, you have a lot of good points but I thought I'd just point out pilots make nowhere near 200k+ as commercial pilots.
Helicopter and small aircraft pilots average 100k and commercial jet pilots average 150k... one of my friends flies for AA and makes over $200k (he had 8 years USMC Harrier experience and now almost 20 as a commercial pilot so prob not average)...
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I was 10 when I got my first job. Stupid, huh?

Try just looking for general labour work. More often than not, if you have two arms, two legs... they will hire you.
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Straight up, even sales places will hire easily to be honest. I made some huge ....ups during a job interview and got hired.
You told them that you befriend off-the-boat rich Asian kids so that they drive you places?

... ZING!

But seriously, even get a ....ing paper route. There is nothing wrong with working jobs that suck. You know what really sucks? Asking people for help without trying first. And I don't mean asking this forum. We're more than happy to help/make fun of anyone. I mean your parents, siblings, and friends. That shit ruins relationships.
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Unread 11-20-2011, 02:14 AM   #57
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Shitty jobs come and go. I worked at McDonald's for 3 weeks as a "filler job". And what I mean by that is that I couldn't find anywhere decent to work (ie. not minimum wage), so I walked in, gave them the best god damn interview I could, got the job, and worked for 3 weeks whilst busting my ass to find another job, which I did, as a cook making $9.30 an hour. I was 16 and in high school, mind you. Diligence pays off. Simply saying "Well I can't find a job, so maybe I'll just scrounge by." is giving up in the purest form. Stay on it. Apply literally EVERYWHERE within a 30 minute radius of you. Don't give up until you have a job. And until then, I wouldn't even think about moving out. Yeah, parents suck, authority is lame, you wanna be your own person, blah blah blah. I throw out the same recycled crap as you do. I've gotten into plenty of arguments with my parents because of stupid decisions. And you know what? I've learned from all of it that, shockingly, I'm not always right. So don't jump the gun on that decision. Stay at home, save money, get a job. Then consider moving out. Otherwise, you'll be dealing with what you already did: Failing and having to move back in. I was planning on moving to Florida in August with $800 to my name. But I had a revelation that made me think that I needed to wait and save more. And by staying these extra 3 months and working 50+ hours a week, I have increased that amount exponentially and feel totally comfortable about moving now. Life isn't about just getting by. Do it comfortably when you have that option.

Oh, and school is a good idea. Jus' sayin'.
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Unread 11-20-2011, 03:40 AM   #58
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I really don't have any easy answers for you, as I'm only 23 and don't have the experience to back this up, but...

Why not pursue an education? You may be eligible for federal and state grants, and most colleges, even community colleges, have work-study programs that would both ease the tuition burden as well as pay some rent. If not, you'll have resources and access to people who might go to bat for you.

Notice how a lot of posts here lean towards getting some kind of official or formal recognition in something, whether it be a trade or a degree? Even the armed forces route ends there. It's clearly something that the older, wiser heads around here find important, and I suspect a lot of them have real-life experience with what they're talking about.

I don't personally know you, so I can't judge your job-seeking skills. I know how hard it is to get work, albeit for me, an embarrassing criminal record and lots of visible tattoos (don't get one on your neck until you're well-established in a career) mean that I can't even work at Wal-Mart. I've managed to find work since I was 17, however, as all kinds of weird things. Instead of calling back, whenever possible appear in person. Ask your parent's friends, your friend's parents and their friends, neighbors, and anyone in a church or social group if they know of places that are hiring or just need some work done on something. Follow up all leads, again in person. Don't let the recent trend of online applications .... your day up, either; you should go in person after applying and ask for an interview.

Back to the school thing, are you really not wanting to go into debt, or are you grasping at that as a good reason not to consider it? I'm not trying to attack you or be confrontational, I just really want you to think about it. Unless your parents are loaded, you find an exceptional job, or you join the military, you're going to have to take out loans to attend school. The upside of this is that if you get a degree, and are as resourceful as you say you are, you'll probably be making enough to pay it back fairly quickly.

I suspect you're either content with your situation, or not bothered enough to have to do anything about it. If you can't get work in your town, and I believe you, what other options do you have? Stay at home, living a sedentary lifestyle? Or pursue something, anything, that will lead to a fuller life later on?
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Don't move out.

Get some self-confidence and get a job. Or go back to school so you'll be able to get a better job.

There's no easy miracle way to make $200 a month, if there was everyone would be doing it.

At the risk of sounding like a prick, sort out what you need to sort out in your life and get a job.
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Like everyone has said: You have the best opportunity right now to go to school. Milk it. If not, don't give up. Apply at places multiples times. When I applied at the Pulp Mill that I just left a few weeks ago, I dropped off 30 resumes at once and told the human resources secretary, "I'm going to be really annoying about this."
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Wiz - try this. you're good on the computer- make it pay off. try to pick something up cheap and then sell it for a couple bucks. take advantage of your down time and turn it into up time. use your car for deliivering pizzas maybe? remember- your time is your own. loneliness is for people who are uncomfortable with themselves. solitude is for people who value their own company.
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Unread 11-20-2011, 02:38 PM   #64
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explorer, my car is as repaired as i can get it by myself.
lots of screws and a 2x4 reside in there.

not to mention the back axle was completely bent, and i unbent it with the help of another 2x4 and a tire jack for a truck. after enough pressure the 2x4 shot across the street. i am lucky nobody died lol.
Ah. You obviously missed my point.

You did the best you could, but couldn't get the car actually repaired. I appreciate that no one died (yes, lulz indeed), but you haven't sorted out your life, even with no expenses, to the point where you can get your car taken care of.

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I'm still curious, and I don't think you've yet mentioned... how are your friends paying expenses? How long ago did they start working?

I've gotta say, I'm starting to think that you moving out would be a great idea. There's nothing like reality to give motivation, and to eliminate the idea that any given honest job with a paycheck is a bad idea.

I say, go for it!

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Ah. You obviously missed my point.

You did the best you could, but couldn't get the car actually repaired. I appreciate that no one died (yes, lulz indeed), but you haven't sorted out your life, even with no expenses, to the point where you can get your car taken care of.

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I'm still curious, and I don't think you've yet mentioned... how are your friends paying expenses? How long ago did they start working?

I've gotta say, I'm starting to think that you moving out would be a great idea. There's nothing like reality to give motivation, and to eliminate the idea that any given honest job with a paycheck is a bad idea.

I say, go for it!
explorer its not that my insurance wouldn't cover it, it the fact that why have them waste the money in repair's when the car isnt worth it lol.

1 of the 2 friends work at a truckwash that his brother owns and is going to school since he graduated 2 years ago
the other works at his fathers cafe as a server 4 days a week, and at family friends Chinese place the other 3 and goes to school starting next spring and has done that for 6 plus monthes

and 3 fun facts

i already moved out once and failed, ending up selling all my sick gear i had aquired over time
so i understand what i am getting into very much, and belive this is a better idea then last.

and the truck i pulled out in front of's only damage was that his chrome guard thing got some scratches. that crash happened at 35mph
and the second accident when i was rear ended, there insurance paid me out $1,200 and i bought my parents a new washer and dryer out of the kindness of me heart lol

not that ANY off this has to do with how to make 200$ lol
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explorer its not that my insurance wouldn't cover it, it the fact that why have them waste the money in repair's when the car isnt worth it lol.

1 of the 2 friends work at a truckwash that his brother owns and is going to school since he graduated 2 years ago
the other works at his fathers cafe as a server 4 days a week, and at family friends Chinese place the other 3 and goes to school starting next spring and has done that for 6 plus monthes

and 3 fun facts

i already moved out once and failed, ending up selling all my sick gear i had aquired over time
so i understand what i am getting into very much, and belive this is a better idea then last.

and the truck i pulled out in front of's only damage was that his chrome guard thing got some scratches. that crash happened at 35mph
and the second accident when i was rear ended, there insurance paid me out $1,200 and i bought my parents a new washer and dryer out of the kindness of me heart lol

not that ANY off this has to do with how to make 200$ lol
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Sounds like you are aware and have a plan so your only problem is job. Based on what you have said you have applied at a lot of places. So the only other thing I can offer is just to bug the hell out of them till they out right say no. Can't hurt.

And also make yourself happy, however you need to achieve that because if you looked like a depressed dude who is just workin for the cash (even though that is the case for almost everybody) you need to seem charismatic and overkill positive. These things will either annoy the hell out of them or impress the hell out of them, but it sounds like you've tried the passive approach so what can it hurt honestly. In the mean time until things are settled just make the best of it don't do nothing.

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i already moved out once and failed, ending up selling all my sick gear i had aquired over time. so i understand what i am getting into very much, and belive this is a better idea then last.
I am curious as to how moving out once and failing has prepared you for trying again. Yes, you now have insight as to what can happen if you aren't prepared, but that doesn't mean you can or should, especially given that you're still upset about how it turned out last time.

And the $200 dollars you mention; is it merely for rent, or does it include other expenses as well? Who is going to pay for food? For utilities? For medical? Are you still going to rely on your parents for everything important, but not actually live with them? If you have no clear cut answers to these questions, you shouldn't even CONSIDER moving out, as you are by no means ready to do so. To tag onto this idea, never seek to make exactly as much as is required, otherwise the first unexpected expense will throw a wrench into the plan and you'll be right back where you started and have even less.

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and the truck i pulled out in front of's only damage was that his chrome guard thing got some scratches. that crash happened at 35mph and the second accident when i was rear ended, there insurance paid me out $1,200 and i bought my parents a new washer and dryer out of the kindness of me heart lol
It was nice of you to do that for your parents, but is only worth mentioning if you bought the car and consistently pay for your own insurance tab; else wise, THEY bought themselves a new washer and dryer. Perhaps this could be a money saving opportunity for you if you do, in fact, pay for the items I listed above. Public transit systems are absolutely phenomenal options that are exponentially cheaper than driving and are very reliable. Heck, I commute over 50 miles and 2 hours everyday to get to university, and the public transit system has cut my transportation bills by something like $700 per academic year. So, if you can, use that instead of a car. And not to be a dick, but it would get you some exercise (walking to and from bus stops), which definitely can't hurt anything.

Also, judging by your youtube channel, you've cut that ugly mane of yours; kudos. If you don't take yourself seriously (professionally speaking), why should they take you seriously? When you've had a few jobs, thus establishing your reputation as a good worker, generally companies don't care how you look (so long as you're not breaking company policy). However, in the meantime, your appearance is one of the few things they can judge, being that you have not been employed before. I can't tell you how many applicants have been laughed at by the management I've worked with based on their appearance, even if it's just the person handing in the application they filled out. A $15 haircut and a $35 dollar outfit (from somewhere like Costco) will do wonders for you as far as making you seem a good choice, regardless of the lack of previous experience. The most important thing you do for yourself when applying for jobs is to take the above to heart AND to bring a resume, cover letter, and ANY references you might have (even if it's from doing an odd job). I'd venture to say that some folks, myself included, might be willing to offer tips on your resume if you showed us what you're working with...

As to tips on how to make money:

1) Buy and sell stuff on CL. I've bought several instruments on CL for insane deals, walked into a Guitar Center, and then walked out with an average of $150 in my pocket. Is it guaranteed or fool-proof? No. Is it a possibility? Sure. If you know something really well, to the point where you can effectively gauge street value, it's definitely worth a shot to buy and resell. I know of two people on this forum that are constantly getting insane deals on gear, and both of them have recently used those deals to make some serious cash.

2) Volunteer to do odd jobs. I know there used to be a kid around our area that offered to repaint the house numbers on our sidewalk for like $10. You'd have to invest in some number stencils and spray paint, but it's a pretty easy thing to do; this, of course, provided it is legal to perform in your area. (Come to think of it, I have no idea if it's legal here...)

3) *Let's others chime in with mundane ideas*

Regardless of what I've said above, this seems like the second thread you've made that is referencing how bad you believe your life to be...I think it might behoove you to sit and think about everything you've got and let the rest work itself out. As long as you stay in school and have an idea of what you want to end up doing later on in life, you should be fine. Take advantage of your parents' hospitality and go to college rent free; might not score you any points with the opposite sex, but at least you'll be set up for the rest of your life.

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Unread 11-20-2011, 10:06 PM   #70
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Wait... so your two friends are working, and going to school as well?

This is so weird. You're even rejecting the example of your friends who are going to school. You're mistaking the side effect of their hard work, their ability to live independently, as the goal, and completely ignoring the hard work and the schooling which led to that side effect.

I'm sorry, but it appears that you're looking for validation of something, and rejecting everything which doesn't fit.

Good luck with that!
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So, in the last 48 hours how much did you look into college and/or trade schools? You've got some time on your hands.
actually max i looked at full sails at home bachelor's for music production.

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Full sail is a waste of time. Being actively involved int he music industry, I can tell you that I have never worked with, nor have I known anybody who has worked with a full sail graduate that actually knew what they were doing. Just about everyone I do know that has gone to that school dropped out within the first few months because they weren't learning anything. If you are going to look at going to school, you need to be looking at getting an education in a field where you can make a comfortable living. Everybody talks about going to school for something they love, which is fine, but they get a harsh wake up call after they graduate and realize that their music education isn't going to pay off their student loans. With recording, you need to keep in mind literally how many studios there are, and more importantly, how many people are recording themselves today. There is almost no market for a new "producer", since established musicians have their go to guys, and younger musicians are recording themselves for the most part. I know 100% from years and years of experience, everything in the music industry is about connections and how hard you are willing to work. So far in this thread, you haven't proven that you're willing to work hard at all...

Now back to your initial problem, 200 dollars a month minimum to live on your own. Make sure you're taking into consideration the cost of food, gas, other bills, and emergency expenses (it's ALWAYS a good idea to have money saved for things like traffic tickets, and judging by that thread Explorer brought up, I don't think that it's too far fetched that you may get one someday). You don't want to do anything too hard, and you can't find a real job. I have been to Idaho before, so I know you aren't working with much. The only thing I can think of at all would be Welfare, which honestly would be morally wrong, because you don't NEED to move out, so you don't NEED welfare.

Like everyone else said, just stay at home, it's free. If you are asking a guitar forum how you can make 200 bucks a month to pay rent, your priorities are all ....ed up and you are not anywhere near ready to live on your own. You should know this since you've already failed at it once.
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actually max i looked at full sails at home bachelor's for music production.

and a bit at courses at the community college.
You can't come up with $200 a week, and you're looking at FULL SAIL?


Seriously though.
Seriously?
Seriously.
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I still can't decide if this posting is for real.

Your goal is to make $200/mo so you can move out? I think I spend that a month in gas and asian porn alone.

Don't take this the wrong way but I was offering advice to help someone who I thought wanted advice, but if that's really all you want out of life then I dont know why any of us (including myself) are wasting the time to pursuade you to go to college, military, or trade schools...

So... If I were you, I would stand on a busy street corner washing windows for spare change... just $0.50 per car and 16 cars/day = $8/day which will make you $200/mo and give you weekends off to play music.... score!

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You can't come up with $200 a week, and you're looking at FULL SAIL?


Seriously though.
Seriously?
Seriously.
yep the government will gladly give me money in grants and loans to do any goofy thing lol. as long as it says bachelors next to it. and i would do that at home program lol

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Wait... so your two friends are working, and going to school as well?This is so weird. You're even rejecting the example of your friends who are going to school.
there was this sentiment i learned as a child in the classic back in forth dramatized though various media
basically the back and forth between a parent and a child, when the child wants to do what his friends are doing and the parents dont approve.

the final response being "if all your friends jumped off a bridge would you"

lol i am just not a normal person i guess. i dont see the world as i need to go be all proud and stuff.
i mean i was raised alot diffrent then the way i think, and my younger sister is quite the hardworker

if i did worry about being moral i wouldn't be some boring fat kid sassing up your guys day with my nonsense.
more worried with outlandish unsensible problems, then the obvious tasks at hand lol

it mean is sucks knowing no matter what i do, it will be a boring. growing up doesn't sound fun at all, or worth even doing.
maybe thats why i am the PETER PAN of this forum.......

i am stuck wanting to be fun and whimsical in a world that wont allow

i am boring and childish, i know that lol.
just indulge me i guess? or not

i would also take any job given to me haha if only there was such a thing


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