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Unread 09-29-2011, 03:23 PM   #26
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Wow this thread...really depressing lol

So any advice...for me at least? Because I feel as if all hope for a relationship in the future is almost gone...

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Unread 09-29-2011, 03:36 PM   #27
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A friend of mine used to say "I'm the only me I know how to be".

I found that to be a pretty sage bit of wisdom. Try not to let the assholes in life get you down. Stick to your own lifestyle, principles, morals, etc, and you will find happiness.

It takes a lot of conscious effort to roll the little things off one's back. Some guy is a douche? Not your problem. Some chick wants to date a douche? Not your problem. Try to stay focused on that which effects you directly. Surround yourself with like minded people, and you'll have all the support you need.

As for relationships specifically, all I can tell you is that patience is a virtue. Every failed relationship we experience brings us that much closer to being able to recognize the right person when we finally discover them. If I hadn't had all the shitty relationships I'd had in the past and learned so many important lessons from each of them, I wouldn't have known how to recognize the love of my life when I found her last year, when I didn't even know I was looking for her.
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So any advice...for me at least?
I'll tell you what I've been doing since I learned my lessons the hard way:

Go with the flow.


I live day to day without worrying about shit. If it happens it happens, if it doesn't it doesn't. No need to stress it.
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Wow this thread...really depressing lol

So any advice...for me at least? Because I feel as if all hope for a relationship in the future is almost gone...
Well, the first piece of advice would be, don't look for a relationship. It generally leads to frustration. Instead, go on with your life, being the best you can be, and eventually you'll run into a girl that you are gonna want to date because the chemistry is there, rather than because you just want to date someone.

Also, don't compare yourself to those assholes who are apparently getting what you want. Appearances are deceiving, my friend. I'm wiling to bet that they are not nearly as happy as they may seem simply because they don't have the kind of outlook in life that you have.

Finally, try to approach different women. I had similar issues when during a period of time in my life, every girl would turn me down to the point where I started to hate who I was. Turns out that this whole time I had been approaching the wrong kind of girls for the wrong reasons. For all you know, there may be nice girls out there who would date you but don't get a chance to know you cause you are too busy chasing dumb insecure bitches.

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No women don't like to be treated like this. Insecure girls like to be treated like this.
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And in my time on this planet I have come to learn that if you want a nice girl, who has alot of self respect and who hasn't had every schlong that showed her 5 seconds of attention then make sure her parents are not divorced.

Now, I know this isn't the rule across the board but...

Parents still together, the girl has self respect and doesn't sleep with a ton of guys.

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Now, I know this isn't the rule across the board but...

Parents still together, the girl has self respect and doesn't sleep with a ton of guys.

Parents divorced, the girl is usually a whore.

Idk, man... I hooked up this girl once whose parents were still together, and she told me she had slept with 17 guys last year, a week after we hooked up


I'm sooooo glad I wore a condom; maybe she was a exception to the rule.

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Massive flaws in logic...
That's your problem. You're trying to relate logic to women. There are flaws in your procedure. .... the logic. Dealing with the opposite sex is never logical no matter what side of the fence you're on.

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I think the problem is that many men make the assumption that because they are the male in the relationship, this automatically gives them control over their girlfriend/wife who must obey them. If you look at religions such as Christianity and Islam, this is wired into the doctrines and holy books so men can achieve domination. And even in those who don't follow Abrahamic religions, many believe men are 'in control' simply because this is the example they have been set all their life, seeing men keep women 'in their place'.

Personally I find it disgusting and would never treat a woman in such a way. Decision making has to be made with equal participation between both sexes, and neither should be treated as any better or worse than the other. There is no logical reason for women to be 'inferior', other than man's bigotry.

I would also like to add that this most certainly does not go for all men, it is just something I've observed in certain cases, such as what the OP described.
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short answer; *some* woman are dumb(the new generation of woman) and do not
know what they want. low self esteem and the fear of not being in a relationship makes them feel embarrassed because all their friends are in one etc...

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Going to kind of rant here so bear with me... Also I do not know if this belongs in the love and Relationships thread or not. If so please let me know...

I was in the restroom today at school and some guy walks in talking on his cell phone. He as the speaker on so everyone can here him. Of course that is mistake number one. I really tried not to listen in on his conversation, until he started saying "shut the .... up or I am going to dump your ass!" over and over again. Apparently this must have been his girlfriend. Of course you could here the girl trying to argue with him over his speaker, she was not yelling or anything, selling kind of calm. Eventually he said "Just do what i ....in' tell you to do, bitch!"

Now I might not know the whole story and there might be more to tell, but we here stories of asshole men abusing and mistreating women all the time, sometimes they are good girls who are just a bit insecure. But why do such assholes get women, I mean seriously, Why the .... do they? It is not right at all. I saw this in high school, college, work, ect. No one can give me a straight answer except "it is just that way sometimes." Makes no logical sense to me...

Granted I am sure there are a lot of healthy relationships with good people out there. More power to them and it gives me hope that one day I find the right woman for me. But stories like this just...get to me...

It is kind of a more personal issues iguess I have a cousin who is one of the biggest jackasses in the whole world. Has no work ethic, lazy as hell no respect for anyone, just drinks and parties all the time, treats his girlfriend like shit. Yet he is popular as hell in college and has everything at his fingertips, spoiled by his parents, hell they got him an Infinity when he graduated! Why, just WHY do assholes get so much?

I have worked my ass off, tried my best to be at least a decent human being, and I do not ask for much more than what I have now. I have some good guitars, some damn good friend friends, a great mother, father, and sister, the best dogs anyone could ask for. Granted a couple new trucks would be nice, something bigger for work and does not break down every ....ing week like my Dakota does, and almost every high end production and custom shop guitar and amp known to man , a better job and more business would be nice but that's about it. Yet, some people seem to have everything handed to them when they do not deserve it. Why these people bother me though, I never will understand...

Maybe it is just bothering me know, maybe one day this will all pay off, who knows, I just want to see these pricks get what is coming to them and the good people of the world are rewarded.

So that is my rant of the day, just frustrated I guess. Anyone else sick and tired of this shit?

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^ *Some* of them...

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That's your problem. You're trying to relate logic to women. There are flaws in your procedure. .... the logic. Dealing with the opposite sex is never logical no matter what side of the fence you're on.
If you read what I said I was generalizing to people not just women.

Because people are shitty, not just women.
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If you read what I said I was generalizing to people not just women.

Because people are shitty, not just women.
eh... i dont know. men tend to be more logical and woman more emotional
during tense situations from what i've seen
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I do not think almost all relationships are like that, but quite a few are.

Makes dating seems like a waste of time to me, going from person to person. Why can I just find THE right person to be with and just leave it at that? Maybe one day, whenever the .... that is going to be...

Then again it could all come from maturity and life experiences. Who knows I have not been in the dating world long enough to find out. I know my parents get a long just fine and they are happy together, same with my sister's marriage (imho the example of a great marriage). That being said I cannot say that for the rest of my extended family and friends at ....ing all...miserable ....ing people....

I also could just be pissed I let the few good girls I know slip away from me...who knows... A shame I have more faith in the companies that make the guitars I play than being in a relationship.
you nailed it. that's what make relationships so difficult. one has to find the "right person". people are unique. that's a tall order. it's almost impossible to even say "i like this type of person" because you really can't see what a person is about just judging by what's apparent on the outside.

and the other point you made is also very true. think about it. why would someone settle for a bad relationship? because it's better than no relationship and it usually takes a lot of effort and time to find somone who has all the requirements.

i haven't had a real relationship in over 7 years. not to say that no one has been interested in me or that i don't run into what i consider to be "possibilities", but those two conditions rarely intersect.

you trust guitar companies more because they have so much less to live up to. it's not likely that you will become emotionally crippled because you don't agree with the licensed trem jackson is putting on their dinkys.
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Wow this thread...really depressing lol

So any advice...for me at least? Because I feel as if all hope for a relationship in the future is almost gone...
learn to be happy without a relationship.

that's the same advice i've been trying to give myself for years.
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Well, I think I'm older than a lot of you guys, so here's what I've learned: Most girls in high school and their early twenties DO like jerks. The like bad boys. And some of them marry them. But when I was in my mid twenties I dated two girls in their 30s and I couldn't believe the difference. It was clear that, after having liked jerky guys for 15 years, and having been mistreated, they finally had enough of it, and wanted a nice, stable respectful guy. It was amaaaazingly different. None of the BS. But I also dated a couple of girls that were cool, but still young, and were off the radar. By that I mean they didn't go to parties, they didn't have a big group of friends they hung out with every weekend, they didn't go to bars, school events, etc. I could have found them at their work or studying but that was about it. But they were really down to earth, didn't really care about all of the social status crap, etc.

So Church, from one nice guy to another, do NOT give in and hook up with a girl that is unappreciative. Also, don't try to act "bad" or be someone you're not. Let those girls marry the jerk, get a divorce, and see what they missed. So either date a girl that's matured or seek out the girls that are not obvious dates. And those girls are super easy to ask out because they don't care if you've "got game.". You can pretty much just say whatever is on your mind and they'll be fine. And if they say no if you ask them to do something, it's likely because they just don't know you well enough, not cuz you don't meet some arbitrary social standard they've set.
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Yup. It was created by ....ing pricks who wanted to justify stabbing their co-workers and friends in the back to succeed in the business world.

It's has nothing to do with relationships.


The way I see it a lot of women are with the, "Bad boy," types because they're the opposite of them. They've been good all their life and blah blah blah. He's something new and different.

Once that New Cock Smell wears off they tend to dump them, be sad about it, forget that it was a terrible relationship and get with an Asshole again. The amount of guys women have to go through before they remember and try to find a good guy can be staggering.

I also think a huge problem (especially among the younger crows) is a lot of people are addicted to the concept of being in love. They always have to be in a relationship. They validated themselves through others. It's like people and always needing to be in contact with all their friends all the time (through cellphones or whatnot).

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The, "right," person stuff is bullshit. Or rather the concept of the perfect person who fits perfectly into your life and there is never any sadness or anger or any negativity is bullshit.

People are brutal emotional creatures. This means once you choose the right person (and it's 100% a choice) you have to work to make sure that you both stay the right person.


I'd like to write more, but the only reason I'm up is because of a ....ing cold that won't let me breathe/sleep and I'm sure what I wrote above doesn't make much sense...
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I also think a huge problem (especially among the younger crows) is a lot of people are addicted to the concept of being in love. They always have to be in a relationship. They validated themselves through others. It's like people and always needing to be in contact with all their friends all the time (through cellphones or whatnot).
Sounds like my girlfriend haha, the friends thing and the extent it goes to is annoying as ..... And I love her a lot, but I don't like the fact that she 'needs' me.
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That guy probably gets handed everything to him in life. A lot of people are like that around where I live. They don't understand how to appreciate anything, or anyone for that matter.
A relationship is with someone you love and trust, that guy and his girlfriend obviously do not have that quality.
Yeah, it sucks, I know, I'm in the same situation dude. All I see around me are douchebags treating women like shit and objects. It's disgusting. No one knows how to truly appreciate someone.

Remember, you understand not to do such things to someone...when you do find someone, you will be in a better position than that guy will be and you will keep your girlfriend happy. That guy, well, .... him. They probably will break up anyway. Most high school relationships do anyway. It's a ....ed situation and I really don't know why girls go for dickheads.
I've asked so many times and I just get different answers. I find it though a bit shallow...They go after the bad guys and then they wonder why they got treated like shit. Well, geez, maybe if you didn't go after an ass in the first place, you wouldn't be in that situation? I've had a friend run and tell me that and I seriously straight up asked her that question. She had no answer.

It's all very confusing.
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Women........can't live with them, can't light them on fire and throw them down the steps.
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Women........can't live with them, can't light them on fire and throw them down the steps.
Well, you can, but it's highly inadvisable.
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