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Unread 07-08-2009, 06:12 AM   #1
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My quest for 280

my lessons at school hardly ever turn up so i have decided to do something useful while i sit here.

I will be updating this thread each week with my progress as i try to get to 280 16ths. A bit pointless but if you had to teach back in back 3 times every day, you would understand.

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Unread 07-08-2009, 06:40 AM   #2
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Is this going to be 208 bpm just tremolo picking, or is there going to be a specific lick or pattern you'll be using?

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Flight of the bumble bee is his thing

Where can i grab a tab for that btw?
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Not flight of the bumblebee, i am pretty sick of playing that. i could also never play that at 280.

i will be playing riffs/4nps general shredding at 280.

maybe i will think of a piece to play but i mainly want to be able to do it so i can play slower tempos 220/240 etc with comfort.

i hate the fact that if i want to play 240 i need to sit with my guitar for an hour. i want to just be able to pick it up at feel in control at those tempos.

i have the tab for it somewhere, give me your email addy and at some point i will send you the gp5

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Is this going to be 208 bpm just tremolo picking, or is there going to be a specific lick or pattern you'll be using?
right now i would be really happy if i could just pick an open string at that speed. accenting every 8 gets seriously hard for me past 245.. and to be relaxed at the same time is currently out of the question

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You playing in a DragonForce tribute band sometime soon?

I'll be impressed if you can pull off playing anything decent at 280. I've never tried going anywhere near there myself.
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Just saying, 16ths at 280 is 18.67 notes per second. To my knowledge, there has only been one guitarist who could consistently alternate pick CLEANLY at those speeds. That was Shawn Lane. Also, I believe Guthrie Govan is rumored to be able to reach those speeds, but most of his actual recorded playing is slower. If you do get that fast, I will be thoroughly impressed, and good luck. I just felt like pointing out that 16ths at 280 is REALLY fast.
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I can play whole notes at 280, do I win?

on a serious note, good luck man!! you'd better post some clips, so we can, ya know... verify

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I can do bursts at 280 on a good day, but actually playing at that speed is ridiculously hard.

Lets just hope my students keep failing to turn up for lessons so I can practice more.

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Setup a live feed for us whenever you teach then! So that way we can see this practice time of yours.

But I would really, really like to see that.
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So far I have managed 280ish but played as 16th note triplets at 187bpm. I can only do this for 12 note bursts.

I am doing 16ths on 1 day and triplets the next.

The 3nps per string stuff got to 170 but after that its just impossible to change strings every 3 notes at that tempo... for me anyway

I actually have time again today, so will be able to practice guitar again. I will video some of it if I do well.

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I was wondering, what is your exercices for improving? Cause, I want to be able to reach those kind of speeds to be clean and comfortable at 240. My guess would be 3 beats of 4 16ths at a given speed and last beat a sextuplet, then play that until comfortable and raise speed after.
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I try to mix it up.

Some days I am doing open strings with 8th notes and 16th note bursts. Other days I play triplets to 16th note triplets.... I do these purely with open strings to begin with.

Then I play the standard 3NPS shreddy stuff, 4NPS scales, technical riffs.

I also try and work on downstroked power chords.

Some days (like today) I do nothing because my arms are exhausted from drumming.

Usually I can get to 240 quite easily after 20 minutes of playing. But as the tempo gets higher I have to reduce the length of the bursts. Right now I can do 280 as 16ths for 16 notes. Then I go back to 8th notes. I am still way off being relaxed at this tempo and actually applying it.

However one advantage is that when I go back down to 240 I find it quite easy to do. I am working on "the art of picking" main exercise and can nearly play the whole thing at 240.

I would not have been able to do this without working on the speed stuff first.

Apologies for the shit explanation, I am exhausted right now....

I will actually write out my routine here at some point. I am documenting my progress on video too so that will go on youtube eventually.

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Going well at the moment. Was playing on a friends Telecaster earlier and managed to get to 280 16ths for about 5 seconds.... which is a ....ing long time at that speed. I actually found it easier on a Tele because the strings are tighter than on my BM.

I am currently working on the shawn lane lick that guthrie govan covered.

This is one of the licks I want to get to 18 notes a second. Legato is there but picking is not quite, yet... going across strings at that speed is just so hard, for me.

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dude 5 seconds? your fingers must've been burning.

post a vid up

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Yeah I will. Although annoyingly my editing software is corrupt so I cant put anything up yet. Nice time I am in "the zone" I will record it and put it on youtube.

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Going well at the moment. Was playing on a friends Telecaster earlier and managed to get to 280 16ths for about 5 seconds.... which is a ....ing long time at that speed. I actually found it easier on a Tele because the strings are tighter than on my BM.

I am currently working on the shawn lane lick that guthrie govan covered.

This is one of the licks I want to get to 18 notes a second. Legato is there but picking is not quite, yet... going across strings at that speed is just so hard, for me.
Nice one fella - which lick are you referring to btw?

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There is no way I will be playing FOTB at 370 anytime soon. I actually dont like the way he plays anyway, I much prefer Cooleys technique.

I am referring to lick 3B

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Ah, you don't need to play it at 370 - you pick every note and he doesn't

Nice choice on the lick btw.

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Its a good lick to practice for timing as well. Once I get that bad boy at 180 its time to get the pipe n'slippers and join an Oasis cover band.

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Going well at the moment. Was playing on a friends Telecaster earlier and managed to get to 280 16ths for about 5 seconds.... which is a ....ing long time at that speed. I actually found it easier on a Tele because the strings are tighter than on my BM.

I am currently working on the shawn lane lick that guthrie govan covered.

This is one of the licks I want to get to 18 notes a second. Legato is there but picking is not quite, yet... going across strings at that speed is just so hard, for me.
No you didn't.
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what?

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You didn't play 16ths at 280 BPM for 5 seconds.
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Oh ok. Whatever makes you feel better.

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