My quest for 280 - Page 2

Maniacal · 07-22-2009, 01:30 PM

You have no idea.

Scar Symmetry · 07-22-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur

No you didn't.

we'll find out if he can do it or not when he posts a video, I for one have no reason to doubt him, what's yours?

HammerAndSickle · 07-22-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur

You didn't play 16ths at 280 BPM for 5 seconds.

Way to be a condescending douche. Who made you arbiter of what is and isn't possible for someone else? Someone whose abilities, experiences, and resources you have no idea of?

It's not like it's unheard of. Some of the better players in history have been clocked around that point. So what you're saying is you either don't believe the science behind it (understandable) or you place legendary players on a pedestal as "gods". They're human too, why in the world can Buckethead do it but Maniacal not?

I'm not gonna neg rep you because all it does is start whining over e-points, but consider it in the same fashion. Posts like that are neither informative nor relevant to the topic at hand and merely illustrate some personal failings of your own.

ShadyDavey · 07-22-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur

I'm just trying to help you to stop being so deluded.

If you have Dyspraxia though, I understand.

Ok, 16ths at 280 is ....ing fast but why doubt the dude? He's prepared to put up a video of him playing the lick at that tempo so in my book at least he isn't claiming anything he can't prove.....and in doing so he knows that people are going to scrutinise it carefully.

I've talked to the man a couple of times and he's always been nothing but sincere and helpful - he's never once given me any reason to put him in the same category as those bullshit "World Record" shredders on YouTube.

Excalibur · 07-22-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadyDavey

Ok, 16ths at 280 is ....ing fast but why doubt the dude? He's prepared to put up a video of him playing the lick at that tempo so in my book at least he isn't claiming anything he can't prove.....and in doing so he knows that people are going to scrutinise it carefully.

I've talked to the man a couple of times and he's always been nothing but sincere and helpful - he's never once given me any reason to put him in the same category as those bullshit "World Record" shredders on YouTube.

Because I've called bullshit before, and this just reeks of it.
I don't doubt that he's a fast player, just not THAT fast.

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Originally Posted by HammerAndSickle

Way to be a condescending douche. Who made you arbiter of what is and isn't possible for someone else? Someone whose abilities, experiences, and resources you have no idea of?

It's not like it's unheard of. Some of the better players in history have been clocked around that point. So what you're saying is you either don't believe the science behind it (understandable) or you place legendary players on a pedestal as "gods". They're human too, why in the world can Buckethead do it but Maniacal not?

I'm not gonna neg rep you because all it does is start whining over e-points, but consider it in the same fashion. Posts like that are neither informative nor relevant to the topic at hand and merely illustrate some personal failings of your own.

Fair enough, I'm just thinking he's overexaggerating a tad.

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Originally Posted by Scar Symmetry

we'll find out if he can do it or not when he posts a video, I for one have no reason to doubt him, what's yours?

Too many claims like his, is my reason.
Like you said though, we will see

Maniacal · 07-22-2009, 05:44 PM

I can see why you should doubt it.

It is going to be really difficult for me to do. I might never be able to play cleanly at 280 but this thread was started as a way for me to motivate myself to get there. I know there are a lot of ridiculous claims, but I havent actually claimed anything yet, I just made a note on here of my progress.

And because I can do bursts at 280 does not mean I have total control at that tempo. It also doesn't mean I can just pick up a guitar and play at 280.

This will take serious work to actually be comfortable at that tempo.

And if I don't get there, so what? At least I will be very comfortable playing slower.

Excalibur · 07-22-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Maniacal

I can see why you should doubt it.

It is going to be really difficult for me to do. I might never be able to play cleanly at 280 but this thread was started as a way for me to motivate myself to get there. I know there are a lot of ridiculous claims, but I havent actually claimed anything yet, I just made a note on here of my progress.

And because I can do bursts at 280 does not mean I have total control at that tempo. It also doesn't mean I can just pick up a guitar and play at 280.

This will take serious work to actually be comfortable at that tempo.

And if I don't get there, so what? At least I will be very comfortable playing slower.

I wish you all the best, and I'm sorry if I came across as condescending.

Reading so many speed claims really takes it toll on you

Maniacal · 07-22-2009, 05:57 PM

I know. I am not concerned with other peoples speeds though, being the fastest does not interest me. I just want to see if I can do it, plus it gives me something fun to aim for this summer.

S-O · 07-22-2009, 07:21 PM

Go go go go!

~16-17 nps is the fastest I can play while staying anywhere near what could be called comfortable. But mostly on repetitive Paul Gilbert style lick, not saying they are bad sounding, just are 'easier' because they are repetitive >.<

I would love, and hope to some day have the freedom in playing that guys like Shawn Lane have. Someday :/

Good luck man!

Excalibur · 07-23-2009, 04:17 AM

Great, here comes the anonymous neg reps again.

tbird11 · 07-23-2009, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Maniacal

I know. I am not concerned with other peoples speeds though, being the fastest does not interest me. I just want to see if I can do it, plus it gives me something fun to aim for this summer.

good luck man, best wishes, don't sweat the naysayers

Scar Symmetry · 07-23-2009, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur

Great, here comes the anonymous neg reps again.

read your posts back again.

did you really think you'd get away with posting stuff like without getting some flack for it?

no, of course not.

Excalibur · 07-23-2009, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Scar Symmetry

read your posts back again.

did you really think you'd get away with posting stuff like without getting some flack for it?

no, of course not.

That's not the issue I have with it, I'd prefer if they'd sign it.

distressed_romeo · 07-23-2009, 05:56 AM

Excalibur, it's been explained over and over and over again why the rep system is anonymous. Everything was automatically signed before, as it didn't work, as too many threads just degenerated into repping wars over trivial arguements. Given the amount of rep abuse since the change of management, I'm not suprised the mods aren't willing to change it back. On top of that, maybe re-read Steve and DDDorian's post about rep abuse; they've asked people to stop signing negs just for the above reasons.
If you genuinely feel someone's abusing the system, PM a mod, but given the tone of your posts in this thread, I can't imagine you'll get much sympathy to be perfectly honest.

S-O · 07-23-2009, 03:11 PM

Well, since you came off as a total ass, I assume the rep reflects it.

But then again, you are unlikely to meet anyone you talk to on the interwebz IRL, so it'd be best to shrug it off with a kthnxbai.

Excalibur · 07-23-2009, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S-O

Well, since you came off as a total ass, I assume the rep reflects it.

But then again, you are unlikely to meet anyone you talk to on the interwebz IRL, so it'd be best to shrug it off with a kthnxbai.

no u

Nick · 07-23-2009, 05:27 PM

im currently trying to boost my speed a bit as well

i want to be able to go far faster than any of our songs require.

been doing about 40 mins a day of random trem picking patterns my forearm is sore as ....!

S-O · 07-23-2009, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excalibur

no u

kthnxbai.

I guess in my case, I really can not back up any assertion to my skill, as I have no access to camz for the intwerwebz.

HumanFuseBen · 08-07-2009, 12:39 AM

soooo how is the quest coming along?

Maniacal · 08-07-2009, 06:23 AM

I havent done a speed test for a while. I have 260 down quite well now. 280 is still a way off though.

Rather than post little video clips, I am going to make a longish video in a few months when, hopefully, I have reached my goal.

Psychobuddy · 08-16-2009, 02:12 PM

Hey man good luck, you've inspired me to start working on my speed I've always wanted to prove it to myself that I could play ridiculously fast[with control], I have a friend who learned Flight of the Bumblebee at 200, it was for a talent show, not really relevant but still, anyway good luck again

Maniacal · 09-09-2009, 02:28 PM

I feel I should update:

I went to Germany for 2 weeks and had no time to work on my speed. I just did a little speed workout and got to 270 bursts... which is annoying.

However, I start work next week and as long as students continue to not show up I should have plenty of time to work on getting to 280 by christmas.

HumanFuseBen · 09-18-2009, 10:21 AM

so are pretty much just working with a metronome to achieve these speeds? that is super ....ing fast, man.

ralphy1976 · 09-18-2009, 10:28 AM

280 for Xmas sounds like a movie....what kind of?....mmmmm

good luck my friend!!!

Maniacal · 09-18-2009, 06:17 PM

Yeah, I am working with a metronome to get this.

Reverse barbell curls, drumming and lots of coffee also help.

The main difficulty I am having right now is accenting every 8... Its OK up about 250, but past that it just gets ridiculous.

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07-22-2009, 01:30 PM	#26
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07-22-2009, 05:44 PM	#31
Maniacal SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Newbury Posts: 1,674 Thanked: 23 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I can see why you should doubt it. It is going to be really difficult for me to do. I might never be able to play cleanly at 280 but this thread was started as a way for me to motivate myself to get there. I know there are a lot of ridiculous claims, but I havent actually claimed anything yet, I just made a note on here of my progress. And because I can do bursts at 280 does not mean I have total control at that tempo. It also doesn't mean I can just pick up a guitar and play at 280. This will take serious work to actually be comfortable at that tempo. And if I don't get there, so what? At least I will be very comfortable playing slower. Shred Training A2 Posters out now! High quality, cheap and ideal for daily practice. http://www.shredtraining.com http://www.youtube.com/shredtraining

07-22-2009, 05:57 PM	#33
Maniacal SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Newbury Posts: 1,674 Thanked: 23 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I know. I am not concerned with other peoples speeds though, being the fastest does not interest me. I just want to see if I can do it, plus it gives me something fun to aim for this summer. Shred Training A2 Posters out now! High quality, cheap and ideal for daily practice. http://www.shredtraining.com http://www.youtube.com/shredtraining

07-23-2009, 05:56 AM	#39
distressed_romeo F'king ............ Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melnibone (duh!) Posts: 10,718 Thanked: 233 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Excalibur, it's been explained over and over and over again why the rep system is anonymous. Everything was automatically signed before, as it didn't work, as too many threads just degenerated into repping wars over trivial arguements. Given the amount of rep abuse since the change of management, I'm not suprised the mods aren't willing to change it back. On top of that, maybe re-read Steve and DDDorian's post about rep abuse; they've asked people to stop signing negs just for the above reasons. If you genuinely feel someone's abusing the system, PM a mod, but given the tone of your posts in this thread, I can't imagine you'll get much sympathy to be perfectly honest. Define 'well-adjusted'... http://farsideguitars.blogspot.com/

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07-22-2009, 07:21 PM	#34
S-O t(-.-t) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dayton and Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,294 Thanked: 18 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Go go go go! ~16-17 nps is the fastest I can play while staying anywhere near what could be called comfortable. But mostly on repetitive Paul Gilbert style lick, not saying they are bad sounding, just are 'easier' because they are repetitive >.< I would love, and hope to some day have the freedom in playing that guys like Shawn Lane have. Someday :/ Good luck man!

07-23-2009, 04:17 AM	#35
Excalibur :O Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dublin Posts: 591 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Great, here comes the anonymous neg reps again.

07-23-2009, 03:11 PM	#40
S-O t(-.-t) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dayton and Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,294 Thanked: 18 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Well, since you came off as a total ass, I assume the rep reflects it. But then again, you are unlikely to meet anyone you talk to on the interwebz IRL, so it'd be best to shrug it off with a kthnxbai.

07-23-2009, 05:27 PM	#42
Nick Stop the Madness! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: glasgow scotland Posts: 3,053 Thanked: 21 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im currently trying to boost my speed a bit as well i want to be able to go far faster than any of our songs require. been doing about 40 mins a day of random trem picking patterns my forearm is sore as ....!

08-07-2009, 12:39 AM	#44
HumanFuseBen SS.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,817 Thanked: 75 $HumanFuseBen is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $HumanFuseBen is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $HumanFuseBen is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $HumanFuseBen is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $HumanFuseBen is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $HumanFuseBen is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $HumanFuseBen is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 6 reviews	soooo how is the quest coming along?

08-07-2009, 06:23 AM	#45
Maniacal SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Newbury Posts: 1,674 Thanked: 23 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I havent done a speed test for a while. I have 260 down quite well now. 280 is still a way off though. Rather than post little video clips, I am going to make a longish video in a few months when, hopefully, I have reached my goal. Shred Training A2 Posters out now! High quality, cheap and ideal for daily practice. http://www.shredtraining.com http://www.youtube.com/shredtraining

08-16-2009, 02:12 PM	#46
Psychobuddy edxgxsrfrz Join Date: May 2009 Location: Amherstburg, Ontario Posts: 1,113 Thanked: 17 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey man good luck, you've inspired me to start working on my speed I've always wanted to prove it to myself that I could play ridiculously fast[with control], I have a friend who learned Flight of the Bumblebee at 200, it was for a talent show, not really relevant but still, anyway good luck again

09-09-2009, 02:28 PM	#47
Maniacal SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Newbury Posts: 1,674 Thanked: 23 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I feel I should update: I went to Germany for 2 weeks and had no time to work on my speed. I just did a little speed workout and got to 270 bursts... which is annoying. However, I start work next week and as long as students continue to not show up I should have plenty of time to work on getting to 280 by christmas. Shred Training A2 Posters out now! High quality, cheap and ideal for daily practice. http://www.shredtraining.com http://www.youtube.com/shredtraining

09-18-2009, 10:21 AM	#48
HumanFuseBen SS.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,817 Thanked: 75 $HumanFuseBen is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $HumanFuseBen is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $HumanFuseBen is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $HumanFuseBen is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $HumanFuseBen is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $HumanFuseBen is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $HumanFuseBen is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 6 reviews	so are pretty much just working with a metronome to achieve these speeds? that is super ....ing fast, man.

09-18-2009, 10:28 AM	#49
ralphy1976 1 less ERGNESS Join Date: May 2009 Location: vienna, austria, EUROPE Posts: 6,745 Thanked: 146 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	280 for Xmas sounds like a movie....what kind of?....mmmmm good luck my friend!!! http://keithmerrow.com/fr_home.cfm http://trewatson.bandcamp.com www.myspace.com/reanima

09-18-2009, 06:17 PM	#50
Maniacal SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Newbury Posts: 1,674 Thanked: 23 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yeah, I am working with a metronome to get this. Reverse barbell curls, drumming and lots of coffee also help. The main difficulty I am having right now is accenting every 8... Its OK up about 250, but past that it just gets ridiculous. Shred Training A2 Posters out now! High quality, cheap and ideal for daily practice. http://www.shredtraining.com http://www.youtube.com/shredtraining

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