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| ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 507
Real Name: Luan Main Seven: Ibanez rg1527 Thanked: 15
![]() ![]() | Seven string transition Well, I got my first seven string (ibby rg1527) two weeks ago and altough I can "play" it, I still don't see all the notes (on all the 7 strings). I used to see all the notes perfectly, but the new string changed everything, the confusion sometimes it's there still. I have practiced the drop 2 chords, I'm sight reading, practicing scales, everything in order to learn all again. I don't have problem with the 3 high strings for example, but the D A and E strings confuses me the most. I'm not exactly asking for help, since I know I will get through it, but did this happened to everybody? I think the answer will be yes, but if someone doesn't care about what scale/note/chord is playing, the transition will be easier. I love the seven string, and I don't have to use the extra string everytime, but it still confuses me about the other strings rather than just that string, it's really weird. |
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| Dictatorship ftw Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 1,940
Real Name: Stuart Main Seven: LTD M207 and Jackson RR7R Rig: Invader 150 Thanked: 15
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Can't say I experienced that to be honest. I do have a mind that works quite abstractly though, so adding a low B made it no different for me to find notes on strings and the like. Then again, I've owned a 7 string from less than 18 months of playing and I'm coming up to 7 years now, so I guess I am just incredibly used to it. |
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| OldschoolGhettostyle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tokyo Posts: 12,530
Real Name: Eric Main Seven: RG1527-GK Main ERG: RG7EXFX2-IPT Rig: GNX3000 Thanked: 36
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I didn't experience that. From the first time I got a seven, for notes and scales, I just saw the low B and low E and mirrors of the high B and high E, which I had already known for years. For chords, I just thought of it as another fourth interval added to a sixth-string. At first, I would hit the E string when I wanted to hit the A string or I'd hit the D string when I wanted to hit the G string, but I got over that pretty quickly. The spacing was also different from any of the guitars I'd owned before, but once I got used to it, I actually preferred the spacing. I saw the top six strings on the guitar as the same guitar I'd been playing for the 5 years before I bought the seven. And I saw the extra low string the same way I viewed intervals between the E and A strings, the A and D strings, the D and G strings, and the high B and E strings (these more than anything else). At first, I just ignored the low B string a lot and only used it occasionally to extend scales or chords, but I eventually got into using it more and more and going lower where I had wanted to go lower on my six-strings but could and all that. So, for me... I had a transition, but it was more of a physical one than a mental one and it didn't take too long to get used to it physically either. I found myself picking thin air more often than I just picked a wrong string, hitting the empty space inbetween strings. |
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| Oscar Is The Dangler Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Knoydart, Scotland / Leeds, England Posts: 473
Real Name: Lowell Main Seven: H&S Dark Heaven Pro Rig: Engl Thunder>Hayden Thanked: 2
![]() | I had no problems at all making the shift, and I'd been playing for about 5 years before I got my 7 ![]() |
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| Sarcy English Twat ![]() Join Date: May 2004 Location: 7th Ethereal Plane of interstellar hell, Innit Bruv, Safe, London, UK Posts: 6,579
Real Name: James Main Seven: UV7PWH / UV7BK / RG2027 Main ERG: 10 fingers of metal death Rig: Triaxis->TBR5/VHT UL Thanked: 77
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Best way to think about it is as follows: The two top strings (BE treble) relate to the bottom two (BE bass) . Another trick is that if you do your scales based of the root note, is to to shift everything by -5 and the same patterns then apply. Basically, you'll get used to it ![]() |
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| Senior Member ![]() Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BOSTON Posts: 2,923
Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Carvin DC727C/Ibby 7620RB Rig: JSX/Mesa Rectoverb Thanked: 38
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I initially had a bit of a problem, but someone here (can't remember who it was though ) told me to look at the guitar from the high E string up , not from the low B string down and that helped a huge amount. At first I would routinely grab the D string thinking it was the G string, but once I starrted looking at the neck as mentioned, I adapted right away. Now 1 1/2 years later I'm completely at home and actually prefer my 7 over my 6's. (like many others here). Can I be the devil on your shoulder? ![]() |
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| 7 String FTW Join Date: May 2008 Location: Greenhithe, Kent Posts: 316
Real Name: Chris Frost Main Seven: Ibanez RG7CSD-1 Main ERG: Schecter C-7 Hellraiser Rig: Marshall JVM410H
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What you have to do is forget what you know and start again. For example, scales and arpeggios are MUCH easier and more convenient on a 7 string, than they ever were on a 6 string. I can arpeggiate through 4 octaves without moving my arm, and without my first finger ever leaving fret 12 (for example). If I was to pick up a 6 string now, I'd have to do a run from the High E down to the Low E, run out of fingers then try to drop 5 frets for the final note lol. Seriously, once you start getting used to it, you won't want to go back. Not only that, no more drop-tuning for you You've got a standard tuned and a baritone guitar in one. Just spend a while learning your way around it, without going for current muscle memory, as it almost doesn't apply anymore. Think of it as going from a Casio keyboard to a Grand Piano ![]() | |
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