[TomAwesome]

Mathcore? I don't think I'm familiar with this genre. It sounds like something I'd either love (math-) or hate (-core).

[MatthewK]

I think pretty much anything goes in mathcore. As long as it sounds wild 'n crazy. I don't get the impression that Ben Weinman from The Dillinger Escape Plan is a huge theory buff, y'know? Obviously you need a decent understanding of time signatures. As far as scales, anything that sounds unusual.

[neon_black88]

Originally Posted by MatthewK

I think pretty much anything goes in mathcore. As long as it sounds wild 'n crazy. I don't get the impression that Ben Weinman from The Dillinger Escape Plan is a huge theory buff, y'know? Obviously you need a decent understanding of time signatures. As far as scales, anything that sounds unusual.

Or anything that you happen to play and sounds cool.

Mathcore? I don't think I'm familiar with this genre. It sounds like something I'd either love (math-) or hate (-core).

I think its a pretty stupid genre name to be honest, do any bands actually call themselves that? I remmember people were calling meshuggah math metal and they made this face

[S-O]

the Dillinger Escape Plan is the best example of mathcore.

For some reason I love DEP. And I am usually into more brütal things than that.

Another nifty trick is to take reciepts you get and save them. Go home and take each number and correspond it to a scale tone.

For example if I bought somehting and it ended up being $7.11, I would play B C C

I usually assign them in ascending order:
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
B C D E F G A B C D


But you can reverse it so D = 0 and B = 9

also this can be done for any scale/mode you want.

So if I bought something for 0.99 I would play B DD
then if the next item was 195 I would play C D G

B D D C D G

Then use whatever rhythm I want, since I haven't developed a way to make rhythms from reciepts yet. Still working on that.

Also, take the little snippets and move them around within the scale, so the above example could be moved up to C E E D E A, with the same rhythm. I lhow this comes up with intervals and ideas you would not normally think of.

Also, you can do this for words. Assign each letter a number. Also include symbols like . * and ! ( ) % and $

a, i, q, y, &= 1
b, j, r, z, *= 2
c, k, s, !, (= 3
d, l, t, @, )= 4
e, m, u, #, -= 5
f, n, v, $, += 6
g, o, w, % = 7
h, p, x, ^, = = 8

Then use words. If you really want to you can include capital letters as being different intervals.

the words 'word' would be, using the little key I made, :

7 7 2 4
B B D F

Funny how that came up with a dimminished arp :O

Then move it through the scale, this particular example is rather tame. It wll end up being traid arps :\

Then take this entire concept and apply it to chords :O

'word' would be a dimminished chord :/
_________

I like to come up with these overly complicated ideas and methods to come up with crazy little licks and such :O Whip out your Algebra book, or calculas (that one would have insane things to play with! ) or maybe your favorite novel, go through an entire chapter and make a nonsense song out of it Then take it, and make sense out of it. This comes up with unusual sounds that will sound fresh dawg.

Word.

[XMattxMetalX]

thanks, that helped out quite a bit.
i can sweep pick now just practiced some just dont know too many scales

[S-O]

Go buy The Guiatr Grimoire Scale Book, or what every it is called. Aesome stuff Shows all the major, melodic minor, harmonic minor and their modes. It also has crazy scales I hadn't really heard of before when I had first got this book (back when I first started out, finding and digesting everything my nüb brain could.) like hungarian major and minor, neopolitan, altered, bebop minor/major, and other madness. Also the rest of the guitar grimoire series is great

Rip through everything you can

[british beef]

harmonic minor, diminished, dominant phrygian, locrian, lydian.
mix and match, lots of tritones and minor seconds.

[HammerAndSickle]

SO, you're hilarious XD nothing, nothing is more random than using a receipt from buying slim jims or something to compose a song.

Genius.

[Metaljim]

Originally Posted by S-O

the Dillinger Escape Plan is the best example of mathcore.

For some reason I love DEP. And I am usually into more brütal things than that.

Another nifty trick is to take reciepts you get and save them. Go home and take each number and correspond it to a scale tone.

For example if I bought somehting and it ended up being $7.11, I would play B C C

I usually assign them in ascending order:
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
B C D E F G A B C D


But you can reverse it so D = 0 and B = 9

also this can be done for any scale/mode you want.

So if I bought something for 0.99 I would play B DD
then if the next item was 195 I would play C D G

B D D C D G

Then use whatever rhythm I want, since I haven't developed a way to make rhythms from reciepts yet. Still working on that.

Also, take the little snippets and move them around within the scale, so the above example could be moved up to C E E D E A, with the same rhythm. I lhow this comes up with intervals and ideas you would not normally think of.

Also, you can do this for words. Assign each letter a number. Also include symbols like . * and ! ( ) % and $

a, i, q, y, &= 1
b, j, r, z, *= 2
c, k, s, !, (= 3
d, l, t, @, )= 4
e, m, u, #, -= 5
f, n, v, $, += 6
g, o, w, % = 7
h, p, x, ^, = = 8

Then use words. If you really want to you can include capital letters as being different intervals.

the words 'word' would be, using the little key I made, :

7 7 2 4
B B D F

Funny how that came up with a dimminished arp :O

Then move it through the scale, this particular example is rather tame. It wll end up being traid arps :\

Then take this entire concept and apply it to chords :O

'word' would be a dimminished chord :/
_________

I like to come up with these overly complicated ideas and methods to come up with crazy little licks and such :O Whip out your Algebra book, or calculas (that one would have insane things to play with! ) or maybe your favorite novel, go through an entire chapter and make a nonsense song out of it Then take it, and make sense out of it. This comes up with unusual sounds that will sound fresh dawg.

Word.

Amazing! Great ideas, I'm going to try those out.

[S-O]

My creative juices don't flow properly :O I supplement it with crutches :P

But really, (realy? meh...) I love how it comes out all roboty; but, with proper coaxing, you can come up with really organic stuff. I love the wide sound of the large intervals, but I also dig the über tight stuff

Also, my Steve Vai worshipping led me to come up with these ideas

I am off to Louisianna, so if I come across somethign new on my travels, I shall posteth them here.