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| Prog Metalish Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 114
Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Ibanez GRX720 Rig: Beringer V-Amp Thanked: 5
![]() | HELP: Solo Strategies I've been playing for a few years now, and have posted several times on various items in the past here. However, as much theory and practice I put in, I can't seem to grasp advanced solos as well as I'd like to be able to. So I come to you, collective internet, in hopes that I can assemble your knowledge of soloing and soloing strategies to create some bastardization of musical knowledge. Thanks in advance ![]() ------------------- For the full .gif go here. We're writing still, but please, check it out. If anybody asks, I'll pass out copies of wip tracks. Last edited by ArchAngel1024; 01-10-2008 at 06:28 PM. Reason: Drastic revision. |
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| Needs NYC prog vox Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,461
Real Name: Roman Main Seven: RG8427F-BX Thanked: 14
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It's hard for me to believe that if you know a) you key signatures b) chord function c) the major scale and all of it's modes d) the minor scales and all of their modes e) every note on the fretboard cold you can't already solo. My gut instinct tells me you don't really know as much theory as you think you've learned. Go back and learn it from scratch- if something looks tedious- then that's probably what you skipped before, and need to learn. Music theory isnt a 'pick-and choose' situation, you will never understand improvisation if you don't know the basics COLD. Like yngwie says: When you're done with all that study Paul Gilbert's Intense Rock I and II until you can play everything. That's the short version... | |
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| Prog Metalish Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 114
Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Ibanez GRX720 Rig: Beringer V-Amp Thanked: 5
![]() | I can solo, just not as well as I'd like to. I was in hopes for some ideas closer to those of advanced techniques (such as the use of 5ths in place of a linear scale). Other tricks like that what would be helpful in creating a fluid solo. I should have phrased myself differently. And thanks for the correction ![]() |
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| Needs NYC prog vox Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,461
Real Name: Roman Main Seven: RG8427F-BX Thanked: 14
![]() ![]() ![]() | as in, intervallic tricks? new arpeggio types, etc? that sort of thing? there are some tutorials on that sort of thing in the workbench... The Sevenstring.org Workbench |
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| Prog Metalish Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 114
Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Ibanez GRX720 Rig: Beringer V-Amp Thanked: 5
![]() | yeah, exactly, I misrepresented myself as a complete idiot >> I do understand a/b/e on your list, and am in the process of memorizing the relations between the Diatonic Modes and the Harmonic Minor Modes. (As for E, I've memorized the intervals, and where the whole notes are, I just don't quite have names to them yet). |
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| Needs NYC prog vox Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,461
Real Name: Roman Main Seven: RG8427F-BX Thanked: 14
![]() ![]() ![]() | lol... do you use sequences? I would recommend checking out some of rusty cooley's stuff on that.... or are you looking for 'tasteful' stuff in the next week, before I get out to mexico on vacation, I plan on doing a tutorial on ninth, and seventh arpeggios for seven-stringed guitars that are very good for phrasing as well as blazing speed, and have the unique quality of being very compatible with the 'standard' rusty cooley types of sequencing for scales in three octaves. Otherwise, I would say just sit around for a few hours trying out new stuff on guitar.... its really hard to tell you where to go if its unclear where you are. Post up a vid or a clip or something... |
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| Prog Metalish Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 114
Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Ibanez GRX720 Rig: Beringer V-Amp Thanked: 5
![]() | yeah, I'll get to it eventually, but the only improv clip I have is a half hour, acoustic one (with poor sound) where I was really more working out some ideas for a concept album I'll probably never finish. |
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| I am a n00b! ![]() Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Long Island, NY. Posts: 2,595
Real Name: Neal Main Seven: None! Rig: Triple Rec>Vader 212 Thanked: 27
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I'm only on step one. Or A. | |
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| Canada >>> You Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: 1 Posts: 2,163
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![]() ![]() | well.. theres a book called like The Theasaurus of Scales and Melodies (or something like that) that is basically just like 150 pages of random melodies that can be used for soloing.. Go get that book, and work on like one a day, and then connect the dots. You will need to sightread though to read them. but its pretty challenging, someone I know has it and looked like a crazy book but apparently Coltrane and Miles highly recommend it. |
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| Senior Member ![]() Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,080
Real Name: JP Main Seven: RG 7620 (VK) Thanked: 22
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Shit, I know B, C, D, and E, but I'm not completely good at A. I can't sight read anything with more than 4 sharps/flats without getting confused. C and D are the easiest, because minor is a mode of major anyways. Unless he means modes of harmonic minor, which is a different story. I'm actually not that good at B though, and I blow at improvising. Like, really, really suck at it. ![]() |
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