Okay, there's no way anyone can do this.

budda · 12-23-2007, 01:13 AM

have you tried... slowing down?

get the rhythm right at 70BMP and work your way up. the point to playing w/ the click is you dont look at the light, you play in time, and you play cleanly. once you can play your piece cleanly, you up the BPM by 10. you keep practising at this speed, until it's the proper rhythm and you play it cleanly. repeat.

sounds like you're going too fast to start out with - slow down. yeah it's a bitch, and yeah you will be a killer player if you stick with it.

Chris · 12-23-2007, 01:26 AM

I love the people in this thread that popped out of the womb with the ability to trem pick at 300bpm.

ShawnFjellstad · 12-23-2007, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

I love the people in this thread that popped out of the womb with the ability to trem pick at 300bpm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtremevillan

Well my tremolo picking is uneven as it is, you think I should do it? I'm trying to work my way (by groups of 10BPM) towards the 198 that it really is.

i don't think you should be doing it in jumps of 10.
try jumps of 3 or 4 and try it that way.

Zepp88 · 12-23-2007, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtremevillan

Well my tremolo picking is uneven as it is, you think I should do it? I'm trying to work my way (by groups of 10BPM) towards the 198 that it really is.

Just try practicing slower and getting faster as your wrist gets more comfortable with the motion.

Personally, I hate the metronome hammering stuff, just my opinion, but it never really worked for me.

dpm · 12-23-2007, 04:21 AM

Gotta agree with Mike here. Sit you and your unplugged guitar's ass in front of the TV for a few hours and practice your picking. Work through the strings progressively, a minute or two each, like BEADGBE then EBGDAEB, BAEDAGDBGE etc... count 6's if you feel it helps Don't do anything with your left hand, except maybe flip channels. You need to relax and get your mind off it.

Zepp88 · 12-23-2007, 04:38 AM

When I was first learning guitar I was playing a lot of Metallica songs and as a result built up my downpicking skills considerably. When I realized that my alternate picking needed work I did pretty much what Dan said

Now I've got some good chops in that respect.

Moral: You don't necessarily NEED metronome to help you progress, unless you have serious timing issues, but that can improve from experience and playing with a GOOD drummer.

As you start to record yourself you'll notice that you'll progressively get tighter and more on-time with your playing, and in this situation I'll employ a metronome to help, unless of course I'm playing to a drum track.

Just don't get frustrated if you can't play 10,000 notes a measure at 400BPM

It's not worth it. Just build your skills, play stuff within your comfort range and progressively push yourself when that stuff is too easy.

zimbloth · 12-23-2007, 05:05 AM

People who know me consider me a pretty good alternative/speed picker, so let me give you some advice:

1) What helped me the most to get better was playing along to songs from extreme bands. The first time I could play along to certain Nile songs start to finish I knew I was in okay shape. Just practice a lot and push yourself by getting into some technical/fast bands. Obviously you don't want to JUST inspiration from bands like this though, you want to be well-rounded and learn other techniques and blend it together.

2) I find it's easier with thicker picks (~2MM). The strings give you less resistance with thicker picks like that. With thin picks you have to do all the work. Karl Sanders from Nile just as an example uses 3MM picks. I personally love the 2MM gator grips.

3) Don't put too much effort into it. You should be able cleanly trem pick like mad without really expending any effort. For me it's more painful to do a lot of down picking stuff than to trem pick for days.

dpm · 12-23-2007, 05:18 AM

Nick's got some good points there. You might find a combination of string gauge and pick shape/thickness works way better than others for you. I used to use 3mm Big Stubbies but now I'm using these thin (about 1mm) but stiff ones by Cool Picks. Very similar to Dunlop JazzIII XL's but I like the attack better. Plus they don't wear out like the Stubbies did.

Most important however is to relax. As Zim says - don't put too much effort in. The speed will not come if you're trying too hard.

deathmask666 · 12-23-2007, 05:47 AM

I was in the womb picking on my umbilical cord at 325.7BPM...

I'm a 1-String Shredder now...

Zepp88 · 12-23-2007, 05:52 AM

I personally find that heavier picks "get in the way" so to speak.

But I did play the heavier Blue Tortex picks for quite a while.

12-23-2007, 01:13 AM	#11
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12-23-2007, 01:26 AM	#12
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12-23-2007, 04:21 AM	#15
dpm RnB causes cancer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Posts: 2,793 Real Name: Dan Main Seven: Old UV Main ERG: Oni 8 string Rig: modded Laney VC50 Thanked: 19	Gotta agree with Mike here. Sit you and your unplugged guitar's ass in front of the TV for a few hours and practice your picking. Work through the strings progressively, a minute or two each, like BEADGBE then EBGDAEB, BAEDAGDBGE etc... count 6's if you feel it helps Don't do anything with your left hand, except maybe flip channels. You need to relax and get your mind off it.

12-23-2007, 04:38 AM	#16
Zepp88 Resident ADA whore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: A Technological Deadzone Posts: 8,617 Real Name: Mike Main Seven: Schecter C7 Blackjack Main ERG: I haven't felt the need.. Rig: MP-1>50/50>Vader Thanked: 63	When I was first learning guitar I was playing a lot of Metallica songs and as a result built up my downpicking skills considerably. When I realized that my alternate picking needed work I did pretty much what Dan said Now I've got some good chops in that respect. Moral: You don't necessarily NEED metronome to help you progress, unless you have serious timing issues, but that can improve from experience and playing with a GOOD drummer. As you start to record yourself you'll notice that you'll progressively get tighter and more on-time with your playing, and in this situation I'll employ a metronome to help, unless of course I'm playing to a drum track. Just don't get frustrated if you can't play 10,000 notes a measure at 400BPM It's not worth it. Just build your skills, play stuff within your comfort range and progressively push yourself when that stuff is too easy.

12-23-2007, 05:05 AM	#17
zimbloth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 11,197 Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Rico Jr Customs Main ERG: Ibanez 8 Rig: VHT Pittbull UL Thanked: 66	People who know me consider me a pretty good alternative/speed picker, so let me give you some advice: 1) What helped me the most to get better was playing along to songs from extreme bands. The first time I could play along to certain Nile songs start to finish I knew I was in okay shape. Just practice a lot and push yourself by getting into some technical/fast bands. Obviously you don't want to JUST inspiration from bands like this though, you want to be well-rounded and learn other techniques and blend it together. 2) I find it's easier with thicker picks (~2MM). The strings give you less resistance with thicker picks like that. With thin picks you have to do all the work. Karl Sanders from Nile just as an example uses 3MM picks. I personally love the 2MM gator grips. 3) Don't put too much effort into it. You should be able cleanly trem pick like mad without really expending any effort. For me it's more painful to do a lot of down picking stuff than to trem pick for days.

12-23-2007, 05:18 AM	#18
dpm RnB causes cancer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Posts: 2,793 Real Name: Dan Main Seven: Old UV Main ERG: Oni 8 string Rig: modded Laney VC50 Thanked: 19	Nick's got some good points there. You might find a combination of string gauge and pick shape/thickness works way better than others for you. I used to use 3mm Big Stubbies but now I'm using these thin (about 1mm) but stiff ones by Cool Picks. Very similar to Dunlop JazzIII XL's but I like the attack better. Plus they don't wear out like the Stubbies did. Most important however is to relax. As Zim says - don't put too much effort in. The speed will not come if you're trying too hard.

12-23-2007, 05:52 AM	#20
Zepp88 Resident ADA whore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: A Technological Deadzone Posts: 8,617 Real Name: Mike Main Seven: Schecter C7 Blackjack Main ERG: I haven't felt the need.. Rig: MP-1>50/50>Vader Thanked: 63	I personally find that heavier picks "get in the way" so to speak. But I did play the heavier Blue Tortex picks for quite a while.


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