sevenstring guitars   sevenstring registry   photo gallery  merch
Sevenstring.org - The Seven String Guitar Authority
home groups support us register
Go Back  
 
User: 
Pass:  
Music Theory, Lessons & Techniques - Discussions on Theory, member submitted lessons, practice regimens and everything else.
Welcome to sevenstring.org! You are currently viewing the site as a guest which gives you limited access to most features.
Most ad placements do not show to registered members. Register Now!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-05-2007, 01:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
Sumerian 7string Sorcery
 
distressed_romeo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: The Eleven-day Empire
Posts: 9,661

Real Name: I have many...
Main Seven: C7 Hellraiser/LTD M207
Main ERG: Aria bass tuned in fifths
Rig: POD v2.0

Thanked: 182

distressed_romeo can play Erotomania with his toes.distressed_romeo can play Erotomania with his toes.distressed_romeo can play Erotomania with his toes.distressed_romeo can play Erotomania with his toes.distressed_romeo can play Erotomania with his toes.distressed_romeo can play Erotomania with his toes.distressed_romeo can play Erotomania with his toes.distressed_romeo can play Erotomania with his toes.distressed_romeo can play Erotomania with his toes.distressed_romeo can play Erotomania with his toes.distressed_romeo can play Erotomania with his toes.distressed_romeo can play Erotomania with his toes.distressed_romeo can play Erotomania with his toes.
^What he said.

'If one octave isn't interesting then who the hell cares about the others?!' Diamanda Galas

http://farsideguitars.blogspot.com/
View distressed_romeo's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2007, 02:07 PM   #12 (permalink)
SS.org IR-regular
 
HotRodded7321's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 668

Real Name: Ragen
Main Seven: Custom Ibanez RG7620
Rig: Line6 Spider III-75

Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

HotRodded7321 is a glorious beacon of lightHotRodded7321 is a glorious beacon of lightHotRodded7321 is a glorious beacon of light
Asesino...it makes no fucking sense what he's playing, but it will give you popeye forearms like a bitch! lol

You say "tomato" I say "Fuck You".

View HotRodded7321's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2007, 04:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
Wild and Crazy!
 
Gilbucci's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 518

Real Name: Mike Anthony
Main Seven: '98 Ibby 7620
Rig: Cube 30

Thanked: 14

Gilbucci is a glorious beacon of lightGilbucci is a glorious beacon of lightGilbucci is a glorious beacon of light
Quote:
Originally Posted by distressed_romeo View Post
Not totally true. There are guys who use their elbow a lot in their picking motion, and sound great, with no physical damage. The problem is when the elbow comes in due to your arm tensing up. Provided you keep your arm relaxed, any combination of wrist and elbow can work just fine.
I forgot to mention the tension part. Thanks tom.
View Gilbucci's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2007, 02:25 AM   #14 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Jongpil Yun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 2,246

Real Name: JP
Main Seven: RG 7620 (VK)
Thanked: 25

Jongpil Yun is shredding to new heights.Jongpil Yun is shredding to new heights.Jongpil Yun is shredding to new heights.Jongpil Yun is shredding to new heights.Jongpil Yun is shredding to new heights.Jongpil Yun is shredding to new heights.Jongpil Yun is shredding to new heights.Jongpil Yun is shredding to new heights.
If I had to choose people to pick like, it'd be Shawn Lane, Buckethead, PG, and Rusty Cooley.

I read that article but frankly I have no idea what the hell it is I just read. Also, I'd rather trust a kinesiologist than Tuck Andress, AKA Random McJazz player.

Speaking of which, I wonder if there have been any major studies on picking technique?

View Jongpil Yun's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2007, 02:33 AM   #15 (permalink)
Later, ace!
 
DDDorian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Middle of nowhere, Australia
Posts: 2,281

Main Seven: Schecter 007 Elite in che
Rig: Sunn Beta Lead

Thanked: 133

DDDorian shreds in his sleep.DDDorian shreds in his sleep.DDDorian shreds in his sleep.DDDorian shreds in his sleep.DDDorian shreds in his sleep.DDDorian shreds in his sleep.DDDorian shreds in his sleep.DDDorian shreds in his sleep.DDDorian shreds in his sleep.DDDorian shreds in his sleep.DDDorian shreds in his sleep.
You can get away with plenty of elbow, as long as you recognise which sensations are caused by stress on the tendons and which are simply muscle fatigue. I've found that the angle my arm is tilted and the distance my elbow is flexed are vitally important in avoiding tendon injury. Basically, the more outstretched my arm is (sich as when picking with a fairly low-hanging guitar while standing) the more elbow I can get away with. Either way, a combination of wrist and elbow is what I recommend. That and the first Annihilator record, heh.
View DDDorian's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2007, 02:52 AM   #16 (permalink)
Cancer:The Crucifuct
 
Cancer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 2,317

Real Name: Cancer
Main Seven: Carvin 727
Main ERG: Carvin 727
Rig: Pod X3 Live -> PA

Thanked: 12

Cancer is pretty damn metal.Cancer is pretty damn metal.Cancer is pretty damn metal.Cancer is pretty damn metal.Cancer is pretty damn metal.Cancer is pretty damn metal.Cancer is pretty damn metal.Cancer is pretty damn metal.
I just thought of this, but emulating those who are where you want to be helps to. Like when I started I played death metal, so emulating what other death metal players really helped.
View Cancer's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2007, 04:28 AM   #17 (permalink)
33rd degree
 
Aghorasilat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Miami,FL
Posts: 374

Real Name: Santiago
Main Seven: Carvin7Agile7Conklin7
Rig: Madison Divinity II

Thanked: 6

Aghorasilat is just really niceAghorasilat is just really nice
SLOW work with Alternate & Economypicking & metronome pick 3 note sequences, 4 notes, 5 notes, 6 notes etc.

play 16 notes subdivisions at 60 bpm, then switch to 16 note triplet at 60 bpms, then switch to 32note subdivisions at 60 bpm...

then amp up the metronome up to 65 and work your way up to 100bpms with those subdivisions.

Practice with RELAXED muscles let the hands "Melt"

Use the wrist and 1st thumb joint to develop the picking.

Watch Gilbert, Gambale, Maclaughlin & Vai pick....I hold my pick like them I don't care for anchoring or using Elbow.



Peace

Santiago Dobles
Official Aghora Website
View Aghorasilat's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2007, 05:04 AM   #18 (permalink)
Wild and Crazy!
 
Gilbucci's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 518

Real Name: Mike Anthony
Main Seven: '98 Ibby 7620
Rig: Cube 30

Thanked: 14

Gilbucci is a glorious beacon of lightGilbucci is a glorious beacon of lightGilbucci is a glorious beacon of light
You would practice Economy picking and alternate picking? Why is that? I always thought it was one or the other.
View Gilbucci's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2007, 07:40 AM   #19 (permalink)
ss.org Regular
 
Nomad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: california
Posts: 19

Real Name: Damon
Main Seven: Ibanez 7321
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

Nomad is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by HumanFuseBen View Post
hey kiddos
i feel like i'm pretty proficient with most guitar techniques, but my super fast speed picking is lacking. i have no problem doing really fast alternate picked scalar runs in solos, it's just death metal-y trem picked stuff that gets me. my speed is only decent, and i have low endurance. i usually always pick from the wrist when i'm doing anything else, but with speed picking, i usually lock my wrist and let the elbow do the work. should i be using my wrist for speed picking???
any tips would be great. i listen to bands like Nile who speed pick constantly, and i have to wonder how they can play entire sets like that without their hands falling off. thanks!
FWIW, I also find it easier to tremolo from the elbow as opposed to the wrist.

Answer to Nile question: They simply are inhuman.

Edit: I must disagree with the "never any elbow" views expressed above. IMO, tremolo picking is best accomplished from a loose elbow, while keeping the wrist relatively straight. For strumming or regular alternate picking I use a wrist motion but to try and sweep or change strings the elbow has got to move.
View Nomad's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2007, 09:15 AM   #20 (permalink)
Cancer:The Crucifuct
 
Cancer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 2,317

Real Name: Cancer
Main Seven: Carvin 727
Main ERG: Carvin 727
Rig: Pod X3 Live -> PA

Thanked: 12

Cancer is pretty damn metal.Cancer is pretty damn metal.Cancer is pretty damn metal.Cancer is pretty damn metal.Cancer is pretty damn metal.Cancer is pretty damn metal.Cancer is pretty damn metal.Cancer is pretty damn metal.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilbucci View Post
You would practice Economy picking and alternate picking? Why is that? I always thought it was one or the other.

One helps reinforce the other.
View Cancer's Photo Album Offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
economy picking, alternate picking, picking, speed picking

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
String guages and picking at speed? Karl Hungus Sevenstring Guitars 13 11-18-2006 02:51 PM
Speed up your DSL Digital Black Computers, Electronics, IT & Gaming 1 10-23-2006 12:04 AM
MAB Speed Kills 2 Pauly General Music Discussion 9 10-21-2006 09:27 AM
Do wristband inhibit picking speed tense up your arms 777 Music Theory, Lessons & Techniques 9 08-26-2006 08:48 PM
sweeping and picking tips chris9 Music Theory, Lessons & Techniques 18 11-26-2005 02:45 PM

The Seven String Guitar Authority
 Raleigh Music Academy Soloway Guitars Angel Vivaldi
 Eric Clemenzi Ra Fans Vince LuPone
 The Guitar Workshop Tremol-No Division
 Michael Sherman Guitars Out of this Swirled Drew Peterson
Powered by vBulletin 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
"777" Logo © Darren Wilson
Content © 2008 Sevenstring.org LLC - Privacy Policy
Affiliate Links Directory


  One of the largest message boards on the web !

RSS  Add to My Yahoo!  Add to iGoogle