Palm Muting.

JoryGriffin · 11-16-2006, 05:06 PM

How far forward do you palm mute (if at all) while sweep picking? Maybe its just crappy technique but i always seem to get at least the G ringing when i go past a certain speed. Too far forward and it kills the notes. Maybe im crap

distressed_romeo · 11-16-2006, 05:09 PM

It varies from player to player.

Personally, when I sweep, I tend to pick closer to the neck than the bridge. Have you checked your left hand, as it could be it's finger-muting that's giving you problems rather than palm-muting?

JoryGriffin · 11-16-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by distressed_romeo

It varies from player to player.

Personally, when I sweep, I tend to pick closer to the neck than the bridge. Have you checked your left hand, as it could be it's finger-muting that's giving you problems rather than palm-muting?

I dunno how id spot the problem

I had guitar lessons for a while but to be honest he was useless when it came to technique... So ive never really studied left hand fingering...

(p.s I was hoping you'd answer, you seem to know your stuff

)

InTheRavensName · 11-16-2006, 05:14 PM

sweeping tends to be more about ripping your fretting finger off the note as soon as its played rather than muting with the palm I think...

JoryGriffin · 11-16-2006, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by InTheRavensName

sweeping tends to be more about ripping your fretting finger off the note as soon as its played rather than muting with the palm I think...

I think thats what im doing wrong... ripping the finger off but plucking the string at the same time maybe

distressed_romeo · 11-16-2006, 05:16 PM

Thanks!

Just isolate your left hand...try one of the arpeggio shapes that are giving you trouble at both slow and fast speeds, and see if there's a difference in your left hand motion. Personally, when I sweep I rely more on my left hand fingers to cut out the noise than my right hand.

If it's possible, try playing your arpeggios all-legato (reach behind your fretting hand and mute the strings, Satch-style), hammering everything. That should really test whether your fretting is accurate. Obviously, it won't work with barred arpeggios though...it could be that's the aspect of sweeping that's causing the problem.

JoryGriffin · 11-16-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by distressed_romeo

Thanks!

Just isolate your left hand...try one of the arpeggio shapes that are giving you trouble at both slow and fast speeds, and see if there's a difference in your left hand motion. Personally, when I sweep I rely more on my left hand fingers to cut out the noise than my right hand.

If it's possible, try playing your arpeggios all-legato (reach behind your fretting hand and mute the strings, Satch-style), hammering everything. That should really test whether your fretting is accurate. Obviously, it won't work with barred arpeggios though...it could be that's the aspect of sweeping that's causing the problem.

Thanks man il try that.. its pretty much all sweep picking shapes

Rep

InTheRavensName · 11-16-2006, 05:23 PM

ah I follow, kinda pulling off...if thats the case I think the only thing to do is practice slowly until you get into a habit of doing it cleanly...

...I say all this, I can't sweep for chips haha

JoryGriffin · 11-16-2006, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InTheRavensName

ah I follow, kinda pulling off...if thats the case I think the only thing to do is practice slowly until you get into a habit of doing it cleanly...

...I say all this, I can't sweep for chips haha

lol

MetalMike · 11-16-2006, 05:37 PM

It's all about isolating movements before you increase speed and personal preference.

DR uses more of a roll technique while I use a technique based primarily on muting. Both techniques involve some muting, but one moreso than the other. Neither technique is better, it's just personal preference. I would experiment and find out which is best for you.

Practice small 3 string shapes slowly until you sound absolutely perfect in every aspect before moving on and you should progress rather quickly. Good luck man!

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distressed_romeo Sumerian 7string Sorcery Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Eleven-day Empire Posts: 9,662 Real Name: I have many... Main Seven: C7 Hellraiser/LTD M207 Main ERG: Aria bass tuned in fifths Rig: POD v2.0 Thanked: 182	Thanks! Just isolate your left hand...try one of the arpeggio shapes that are giving you trouble at both slow and fast speeds, and see if there's a difference in your left hand motion. Personally, when I sweep I rely more on my left hand fingers to cut out the noise than my right hand. If it's possible, try playing your arpeggios all-legato (reach behind your fretting hand and mute the strings, Satch-style), hammering everything. That should really test whether your fretting is accurate. Obviously, it won't work with barred arpeggios though...it could be that's the aspect of sweeping that's causing the problem.

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InTheRavensName Metal Machine =) Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Derby, UK Posts: 2,725 Real Name: Ross The Great Main Seven: 666 strings only Rig: POD XTLive Thanked: 7	ah I follow, kinda pulling off...if thats the case I think the only thing to do is practice slowly until you get into a habit of doing it cleanly... ...I say all this, I can't sweep for chips haha

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