Theory of "styles"

[ImBCRichBitch]

Originally Posted by Fiction

Have you got any clips from that show what you're doing in the first post?

not yet. those songs dont have vids yet. but were doing a demo vid soon of it.

[ImBCRichBitch]

To Fiction: this is what i was sorta talking about.



only probs were no bass or drums, and i had to raise the tuning from drop a to drop c.

[SirMyghin]

I'm sorry but I don't exactly hear anything original there, sounds like something Creed would have done in the early 2000s. Nothing using terribly diverse influences or the fusion you are claiming to achieve. Could be good with some practice and decent recording though.

[ImBCRichBitch]

Originally Posted by SirMyghin

I'm sorry but I don't exactly hear anything original there, sounds like something Creed would have done in the early 2000s. Nothing using terribly diverse influences or the fusion you are claiming to achieve. Could be good with some practice and decent recording though.

Really? Creed? :/ anyway it would sound different in the actual version. theres parts we had to leave out due to it being "acoustic". theres actually like another verse and a second bridge and a solo

[venneer]

I've been lurking this for a while now, and I just wanted to give you, the OP, sort of a heads up and a little bit of advise. I'm not trying to attack you, I'm trying to help you here, but this will sound harsh. I believe you can take it:

This place is full of professional, extremely high level players. You should not be intimidated, and you should also not try to defend yourself so hard, because, first of all, you are not being attacked. Stop trying to justify your present work and work harder to make it better. If you have something better, why are you posting the lesser versions?
Take people advices to heart. Be better. Listen to these guys, they know what they are talking about. You can grow a lot here, just stop making excuses for yourself.

[Fiction]

Originally Posted by venneer

This place is full of professional, extremely high level players. You should not be intimidated, and you should also not try to defend yourself so hard, because, first of all, you are not being attacked. Stop trying to justify your present work and work harder to make it better. If you have something better, why are you posting the lesser versions?
Take people advices to heart. Be better. Listen to these guys, they know what they are talking about. You can grow a lot here, just stop making excuses for yourself.

This, very much. You're not the only one, without doubt almost every single member that posts a clip here will try to justify something. They could of made the perfect mix, with some insanely amazing composition, but you'll always find at the bottom of the post. "It was a bit rushed" or "I had to use my cheaper guitar" Or anything like that, I do it.. I'm the ....ing King of Justify Mountain. Your music so far, is by no means an amazing blend of genres and non-stop gut-wrenching suspenseful moments, but for what it is, its still good music. The music has potential, it is very reminiscent of the grunge period, as well as some seattle-rock styled thrown in to balance it.

If you do record some stuff properly, make sure to post it as I'm actually digging it.

[ImBCRichBitch]

wow dude you actually enjoy my music? i tend to think im the worst player on earth, and that my writitng sucks. as for the lesser versions, idk why i do that. i messed up so many times on that, tempo was wrong, it didnt sound right in drop c, and i started the chorus after the second verse too early. also i for got the "solo" i wanted in it.

[stryker1800]

most people tend to be their own worst critic, I am very guilty of it.

[Konfyouzd]

Don't think so much homie. Do what you like and like what you do. Who cares what everyone else thinks? Look at how many people get famous as .... giving absolutely ZERO ....s... They lead by example, sir.

[ImBCRichBitch]

Originally Posted by Konfyouzd

Don't think so much homie. Do what you like and like what you do. Who cares what everyone else thinks? Look at how many people get famous as .... giving absolutely ZERO ....s... They lead by example, sir.

Man that just give me my daily boost to write new shit

[SirMyghin]

Originally Posted by ImBCRichBitch

Really? Creed? :/ anyway it would sound different in the actual version. theres parts we had to leave out due to it being "acoustic". theres actually like another verse and a second bridge and a solo

Yep Creed, you are missing that I enjoyed Creed, about the only band of that era whose albums I own, the rest were from the 70s and 80s. I would like to hear it when you get it done, and well recorded. Tuning makes a shits difference to me, they are all one in the same really (lower drop tuning =/= heavier, etc, to my ear).

[ImBCRichBitch]

Originally Posted by SirMyghin

Yep Creed, you are missing that I enjoyed Creed, about the only band of that era whose albums I own, the rest were from the 70s and 80s. I would like to hear it when you get it done, and well recorded. Tuning makes a shits difference to me, they are all one in the same really (lower drop tuning =/= heavier, etc, to my ear).

Actually i like creed but my writing isnt even allowed near tremonti's. weve been put back even longer on the recording -_- so it may be a while

[SirMyghin]

Originally Posted by ImBCRichBitch

Actually i like creed but my writing isnt even allowed near tremonti's. weve been put back even longer on the recording -_- so it may be a while

Recording takes time, and even when you get the time there is a .... load to learn. I try to add a little more in technique each time I record to not kill myself under the massive amount of learning. I don't have the focus on production the metal heads around here though, I like the simpler times, permitting it is not utter shit . It is also very important not to rush into recording, rushed recording = rushed results.

[ImBCRichBitch]

Originally Posted by SirMyghin

rushed recording = rushed results.

exactly why im thinking about not putting so much pressure on getting it out. if i take my time i wont mess up as much and i could get it all right.

[drgamble]

You really should find some kind of way to record demos of the full band, even if it is a boom box, for your personal use. Preferably, if you are going to pay for a recording, you should do a couple non release recordings so that you can listen back and make changes before you spend your money. It is what some would call pre-production and can save you in the long run.

[Varcolac]

Personally I wouldn't pay someone else for a recording at all, especially starting out. These days it's incredible what you can do with a half-decent laptop and a cheap interface. You'll have to put up with the slightly mediocre world of MIDI drums unless you've got enough inputs to mic up a kit, but even with a cheap second-hand POD you can get very listenable guitar and bass sounds.

As for drums, I'm a firm believer that with enough EQing you can get a half-decent sound out of anything. A full mix, even with lower-quality drums, can portray your song quite a bit better than an acoustic guitar and a webcam mic.

[ImBCRichBitch]

Well, we were gonna use audacity to record, but not sure how well itll record everything. the drums may not come out as well as they sound when matt hits em.

[drgamble]

Originally Posted by Varcolac

Personally I wouldn't pay someone else for a recording at all, especially starting out. These days it's incredible what you can do with a half-decent laptop and a cheap interface. You'll have to put up with the slightly mediocre world of MIDI drums unless you've got enough inputs to mic up a kit, but even with a cheap second-hand POD you can get very listenable guitar and bass sounds.

As for drums, I'm a firm believer that with enough EQing you can get a half-decent sound out of anything. A full mix, even with lower-quality drums, can portray your song quite a bit better than an acoustic guitar and a webcam mic.

That's good to do especially for pre-production, but if you ever plan on releasing something and try to get it licensed or on the radio, they really want top notch quality. We did our last ep at a commercial studio for $1500, and honestly, we couldn't have gotten the same quality with $10,000 worth of equipment. There is something to be said for the right equipment, in a good room, with a pro engineer. The band has to be tight though and have a very good idea of what they want.

[ImBCRichBitch]

Well we were gonna try to get the local metal/rock station to play one of our songs that weve been trying to work on. 1500 is not a bad price for doing a professional sounding ep in a studio. still alot of money but a good deal.