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Old 06-02-2006, 12:33 PM   #1
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Should I fight fire with fire?

Anyone got advice on learning 'Fight Fire With Fire'. Especially on the topic of speed picking. Like how to get it faster-I just can't fit all of the open notes between the fretted ones.

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Old 06-02-2006, 12:36 PM   #2
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Hate to say it, but in my experience, whenever you try to force speed it's always counter-productive. Try learning it a little slower and getting it perfectly in time with a good tone. Once you've concentrated on the quality of each note in that way and've trained your hands to exectute it perfectly at a slightly slower speed, the fast tempo will come naturally.

Just out of interest, are you playing it with a pick or fingers?

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Old 06-02-2006, 12:38 PM   #3
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^ Yeah, what he said. It's a function of practice to get speed and accuracy.

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Old 06-02-2006, 12:57 PM   #4
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As with most old metallica, once you get those songs down, your picking hand chops will be fucking outstanding. So... Many... Downstrokes..
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Old 06-02-2006, 01:02 PM   #5
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Like others have said, practice will get you there. If there is a Guitar Pro or PowerTab version floating around, that would be perfect, since you can change the tempo. Otherwise, concentrate on memorizing the parts, and then slowly ratchet things up with a metronome over time.

Above all else, stay relaxed. Think of every fast picker you've ever seen, and they all have very relaxed looking right arms. You know when you're pushing things faster than you can go when your arm starts tensing up.

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Old 06-02-2006, 01:41 PM   #6
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I actually cover this song (lead vocals, rhythm guitar). I have no trouble with the speed (in fact, sometimes I play it faster than the actual original), but I do have a little bit of trouble with the timing for the rhythm guitar during the solo. Time signatures other than 4/4 can give me trouble. Took me a while to get Blackened down (dang song keeps changing signature from 4/4 to 6/4 to even 7/4 I think... might be wrong).

My only advice I guess is don't just pick as fast as you can. If you do, you'll screw up and just get frustrated. I've noticed that depending on the kind of pick I use, it can be easier or harder to play this song.

Ride The Lightning is my favorite Metallica album (Off that album, we cover Fight Fire With Fire, Ride The Lightning, and For Whom The Bell Tolls. We are planning on doing Creeping Death and we also screw around with The Call of Ktulu. I'd like to do Escape as well, since I really like that song) and Fight Fire With Fire is a dang fun song to play. Very fun to sing too. I've got Hetfield's vocals on this song pretty well down

Others have given good advice, as well. You'll get it as long as you don't give up.
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Old 06-02-2006, 05:19 PM   #7
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I'm playing with a pick. More agressive tone plus it's easier to play faster.

Also to the otehr guy-Playing it faster than the original!? ( or ? ) I just about died when I saw this, not that this is the fastest thing ever but it's up there.

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Old 06-02-2006, 05:26 PM   #8
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oops. Above post is actually be me (All_Ľour_Bass).
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Old 06-02-2006, 08:24 PM   #9
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I learned to play on old Metallica. I think they are the best group to learn to play metal with. Just be patient and keep at it. Get your mechanics down and watch you pick angle. Keep it at an angle so as to provide as little resistance on the string as possible. Keep at it. I was never a big fan of fight fire with fire personally but it is wicked fast. Good luck.

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