How do you compare to Steve Vai's concept of basic music knowledge

fatherbrennan · 10-20-2005, 06:13 PM

Sounds like a plan my friend, Id be happy to help you get rolling with theory any way I can.

Ken · 10-20-2005, 06:35 PM

I don't qualify. I don't know the harmonic minor/whole tone stuff/Diminshed stuff backward and forward. Don't care to. For that matter, I've taken Locrian out of the mix altogether. The mode has no appeal to me at all. Phrygian is as dark as I'd ever want to go.

Metal Ken · 10-20-2005, 10:42 PM

Locrian is friggin metal \m/
I've written many a badass metal rythm out of locrian

Ken · 10-20-2005, 11:23 PM

If you love it, more power to you. It just isn't for me.

Shawn · 10-21-2005, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by smueske

Amen to the Tony Macalpine thing. Same case with me. Another guy I forgot about that just blows my mind is Greg Howe. I've always thought he was one of the best bluesy shredders around.

Greg Howe is awesome.

stuz719 · 10-22-2005, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Burtch

I don't qualify. I don't know the harmonic minor/whole tone stuff/Diminshed stuff backward and forward. Don't care to. For that matter, I've taken Locrian out of the mix altogether. The mode has no appeal to me at all. Phrygian is as dark as I'd ever want to go.

I don't like F#... sounds too much like Gb to me...

How can you take a whole mode "out of the mix altogether"? To go back to the language simile, it's like trying to communicate in English without using the letter "e". Possible, but ultimately limiting for both author and audience.

Ken · 10-22-2005, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by stuz719

I don't like F#... sounds too much like Gb to me...

How can you take a whole mode "out of the mix altogether"? To go back to the language simile, it's like trying to communicate in English without using the letter "e". Possible, but ultimately limiting for both author and audience.

It's pretty easy really. You see, to me modes are not letters in an alphabet. They're moods and feelings. There are thousands of albums and millions of songs that don't use Locrian, yet they communicate to the listener just fine.

To put it another way, there are many words in the English language. Do you use them all? No. In fact, I'm sure there are many words you've never used because they're so obscure. Locrian is that for me. So obscure, so full of tension that I have no use for it.

Limiting? sure. But if you've ever been around someone who talks just to talk you'd realize that limits can be a good thing.

Vince · 10-22-2005, 09:17 PM

I love Locrian. It's the Metallica mode

Metal Ken · 10-22-2005, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Burtch

To put it another way, there are many words in the English language. Do you use them all? No. In fact, I'm sure there are many words you've never used because they're so obscure.

Pf, your abstraction of abtruse words and their circumscribed applicability is erroneous ;p
Superflous colloquy is gratifying.

Vince · 10-22-2005, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HateBreeder

Pf, your abstraction of abtruse words and their circumscribed applicability is erroneous ;p
Superflous colloquy is gratifying.

Did you write lyrics for the late 80s christian metal band Tourniquet? They had an album once called "Pathogenic Ocular Dissonance".

Figure that one out.

10-20-2005, 06:13 PM	#41
fatherbrennan 7 string samaurai Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tucson Posts: 42 Main Seven: Ibanez Universe Thanked: 0	Sounds like a plan my friend, Id be happy to help you get rolling with theory any way I can. www.fatherbrennan.com

10-20-2005, 10:42 PM	#43
Metal Ken Dissident Aggressor • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 16,419 Real Name: Legion Main Seven: Loomis, C7HR, Giannini 7 Rig: Mesa Rectoverb 50 Thanked: 72	Locrian is friggin metal \m/ I've written many a badass metal rythm out of locrian Almighty asmodeus, existant of chaos Ominous be thy name Thy kingdom come on earth Lead me into all temptation of my flesh So I may trespass greatly into Thy ways by my desires ~Fornicatus Benefictus http://www.myspace.com/impurity Brutal Skullfucking Death Metal

10-22-2005, 09:17 PM	#48
Vince Vince is X!!! • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 5,611 Real Name: Vince Main Seven: Ibanez Rig: Rocktron / Mesa Thanked: 112	I love Locrian. It's the Metallica mode THE ASYLUM VINCELUPONE.COM

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Ken Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 2,335 Thanked: 25	I don't qualify. I don't know the harmonic minor/whole tone stuff/Diminshed stuff backward and forward. Don't care to. For that matter, I've taken Locrian out of the mix altogether. The mode has no appeal to me at all. Phrygian is as dark as I'd ever want to go.

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