George Martin - A Song Of Ice And Fire

[SirMyghin]

^^ Climate change one wins.

[petereanima]

this is amazing.

[Xaios]

Pure win.

[SenorDingDong]

I am here to protest the hateful killings of Sean Beans everywhere





Read and be enlightened.

[gunshow86de]

There's a newer version of the politician one floating around the internets, with George W as Hodor.

[Xaios]

Another great episode last night. Not as much happened as the episode before, aside from

Renly being offed by the vaginal smoke monster

, but there was a lot of great interplay between the characters. Tywin, in particular, just keeps becoming harder to dislike, and I've read the books!

[Sepultorture]

Originally Posted by Xaios

Another great episode last night. Not as much happened as the episode before, aside from , but there was a lot of great interplay between the characters. Tywin, in particular, just keeps becoming harder to dislike, and I've read the books!

yeah but he'll .... over Tyrion anyway and make himself look like the bad guy as time goes on

[Xaios]

Originally Posted by Sepultorture

yeah but he'll .... over Tyrion anyway and make himself look like the bad guy as time goes on

Well yeah, anyone who's read the books knows that.

What I mean is that Charles Dance is just ridiculously charismatic on screen, at least the way he's portraying the character currently. You can certainly imagine where Tyrion gets his swagger seeing them on screen like that.

[gunshow86de]

Originally Posted by Xaios

What I mean is that Charles Dance is just ridiculously charismatic on screen, at least the way he's portraying the character currently. You can certainly imagine where Tyrion gets his swagger seeing them on screen like that.

I think this is intentional by the producers.

There isn't much background on Arya's "prayer" in the series. Without knowing who or why all those people are in her "prayer," the average viewer would be really confused why she doesn't pick Tywin Lannister. It would all but guarantee Rob's victory. Now, if Tywin treats Arya fairly, that fact might be less glaringly obvious.

Also, I made this while I was bored at work today.

[Xaios]

Heh, nice. And yeah, that explanation does make sense. It's been a while since I read the book, but from what I remember, that does essentially line up with what happens in it.

[SirMyghin]

Finally finished reading Dance, although it has been close to a year since the release. Figure why bother rushing?

A good read overall, but I really dislike Martin's penchant for leaving too much hanging at the end of each book. It is too easy, lazy even, to write serial containing only 1 long drawn out story, as opposed to chopping it in opportune places to create a series of stories that make up a greater tale. Erikson and King did much better with that in their series overall, having more logical end points to the books. Unfortunately the back half seemed to drag out a bit much, particularly the last 200 pages. The epilogue made up for that I feel though.

[petereanima]

Originally Posted by gunshow86de

I don't understand this, what does this mean, does it rhyme with something or what...?




very cool!

[AxeHappy]

You will understand. You will.

[Xaios]

Uhhhh Axe... I think he already does...

[petereanima]

Yeah, I do.

[Duelbart]

Just got myself the whole saga and I have no school for some time:



Yay!

There are so many tomes since the last three books were released in two parts by the publisher.

[Sepultorture]

And to think the next tow books will be 1500 pages each, maybe more, this shit is epic, i need to start reading this

[gunshow86de]

(I know I posted this before) A friendly reminder for all mutual GOT and Arrested Development fans - Arrested Westeros is making new posts for season 2.

Arrested Westeros

[gunshow86de]

[Xaios]

I. Must. Have. That. Shirt.

[wannabguitarist]

Originally Posted by Xaios

One interesting departure from the book with Melisandre's "baby."

Nope, the shadow in the book was used to kill Renly in his camp in Storm's End. I'm pretty sure the chapter with Davos ends with the shadow assassin and the following chapter is from Catelyn's perspective as Renly dies. Of course only the reader knows Stannis is responsible.

[Bekanor]

Originally Posted by wannabguitarist

Nope, the shadow in the book was used to kill Renly in his camp in Storm's End. I'm pretty sure the chapter with Davos ends with the shadow assassin and the following chapter is from Catelyn's perspective as Renly dies. Of course only the reader knows Stannis is responsible.

No the shadow the reader "sees" born is in the bowels of Storm's End. They simply co-opted that part from the book and put it there as I'm pretty sure the Edric Storm arc isn't going to make it into the show.

[gunshow86de]

Ummm, what the hell was that dragon stealing business at the end of this episode? It's been a while since I read Clash of Kings, but that doesn't ring a bell. They're taking a pretty big liberty with the story line.

In the preview at the end, Daenerys is shouting at Jorah to "just find her dragons." I'm probably reaching, but that tone suggests she has already found him out to be a spy. He is not supposed to be outed until later, when they join up with Belwas and Artsan/Barristan Selmy. I'll be upset if they cut out both those characters. I want to see Belwas cut himself and fight dammit!

Also, Jon Snow getting some dry hump action.

[Bekanor]

I'm up to the epilogue of dance with dragons and I have to say this:

Really George? Really? What the .... bro?

[Xaios]

Originally Posted by gunshow86de

Ummm, what the hell was that dragon stealing business at the end of this episode? It's been a while since I read Clash of Kings, but that doesn't ring a bell. They're taking a pretty big liberty with the story line.



Also, Jon Snow getting some dry hump action.

It didn't happen like that in the book, but I imagine they put in the bit about the dragons getting stolen as a way to move the plot forward. The motivation in the book to get her to explore the House of the Undying was pretty flimsy. This actually makes a lot more sense. They're taking more liberties in general with the second season, and they're doing a good job of it too. For example, all the Qarthian ladies having one boob showing all the time would have been mighty impractical from a costuming standpoint.

I don't think she suspects that he's a spy at the moment. Quite the opposite, she just realized for the first time that he's in love with her. She doesn't find out she's a spy until Barristan comes along, and only after his true identity is revealed to her. Also, Barristan Selmy is way to important to Daenerys' storyline to leave out. Strong Belwas... I don't think he'll get cut either. If nothing else, he conquers Yunkai by beating their champion in single combat, even if Yunkai later rebels again. That gives the producers a convenient, low cost way to show a major plot point without having to change it.

And yeah, the actress playing Ygritte is super cute. Gotta love redheads.