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Unread 05-05-2012, 12:59 AM   #26
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If you guys like the Avengers you might want to pick up the album as well. I've heard it's pretty killer. Here's the info on it :



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2. Loki Can’t Luv U Like I Can
3. Keep On Moving (Coz Love Is A Battlefield)
4. My Heart Is Hammerin’ For U
5. Hulking On The Dance Floor
6. Shwarma’s And A Movie
7. Cupid & Hawkeye (Got Me Falling For U)
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Took my boy to see it tonight. He kept asking me Daddy where's Hulk? There's Iron Man, Cpt America, Thor..where's Hulk? My son's a huge Marvel fan..he was excited at the "Amazing Spider Man" preview..Spider Man's his favorite. He fell asleep before Hulk made his debut..poor boy was exhausted after a long day at school and battling daddy with BeyBlade's. We'll go see it again my wife wants to see it too.

I rather enjoyed it. There was a nice amount of comedic relief without excessive cheese. I agree the audience was into the smack downs and character moments...Hulk? Smash. Hulk and Tony Stark seemed to get the most audience reaction.

All in all it was as good or better than the movies leading up to it. Definitely better than Captain America, which was the only movie besides Iron Man 2 that disappointed me.

I loved Ed Norton as Bruce Banner, but Mark Ruffalo was great in the role. Robert Downey Jr was great as always. I couldn't imagine someone better to play Tony Stark.
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humm...another thing that i kind of disliked about the movie was the characters of hawkseye and black widow. i found them a bit pointless. even if they weren't in the movie, i dont think we'd miss much. maybe we'd miss scarlet johansons hottness, but thats about it.

also, why cant hollywood understand that the universe doesn't revolve around america? i get it, stark is supposed to be a big thing in america, and has a building dedicated to himself that is fairly tall...why not just do it on another taller, more grander building?


eitherway, they are small things that i'm just pigeon holing. still loved the movie

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Just saw it. It's all ab the Hulk.

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Gonna put this in spoiler tags just in case, though I'm not trying to spoil anything on purpose!

Saw it last night. It definitely wasn't bad, but I feel like it's been overpraised.
I was surprised at how well Mark Ruffalo was for Banner, and when everything goes to hell in the helicarrier was awesome. I also liked Nick Fury's portrayal, he pulled some stuff that was very much in his character, and there are several small moments that were just really good.
The ending I didn't like so much though, what with the final battle. I just didn't feel any tension, and it's probably due to a number of factors. I don't mean to say this movie is overpraised incredibly, but it's getting huge reviews and I think I'd probably give it a 7.8/10 or something, for reference. It was IMO better than some other superhero movies though.
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+1, it was a pretty good movie that held interest the entire way.





Though I watched it for Cobie Smulders.
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A couple of things bothered me.

If Clint/Hawk/Hawkeye is such a great shot, including the one he pulled to crash the Carrier's systems, and if he's so up on so many weak points... why didn't he take a head shot on Fury?

Why was Black Widow such a crybaby? She almosts bursts into tears with Banner the first time, she cowers in a corner for way too long, and all this after she mopped up Hammer's place in Iron Man 2. Suddenly she's unable to handle the pressure? Whedon is a idiot for this.

So, she puts them on when they're suiting up, they're featured in the credit sequence when the actress playing her is named... so why didn't they ever show Black Widow using her Widow's Bite wristbands?

Why didn't they just knock out the floor below the Cube/Tessaract mechanism, and at least cut invading creatures in half with the edges of the gate?

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I loved Stark trying to provoke a reaction.

I did like Ruffalo quite a bit.

I *really* liked how this movie *nailed* the classic representation of the Hulk, while being recognizably Ruffalo/Banner.

I liked how the barrel of the weapon Agent Coulson used powered up like the Destroyer.


One more thing: Because of different groups wanting to see it, I got to see it in both Imax 3D and RealD 3D. The RealD version was a better 3D version. I was a little surprised at having noticed a difference, so I asked the people who had managed to make both showings that day if they had noticed. Everyone who had seen both thought the RealD was more watchable. Who woulda thought?
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I just read that the movie was initially going to be filmed in 3D, but it was done in post production instead. I guess that's why the 3D wasn't superior to the RealD.
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RealD is one format of 3D, just as is Imax3D. My point was that the Imax version was a worse conversion.

I found that surprising, as I just have an ingrained feeling (thanks to years of marketing, I suppose) that Imax is better for most things, and so Imax3D would be better by extension than RealD.

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also, why cant the American entertainment industry, and an American director who also wrote the screenplay, and making a movie about characters from an American comic book company centered around America when on this planet, and making said movie for an American audience, understand that the universe doesn't revolve around america? i get it, stark is supposed to be a big thing in america, and has a building dedicated to himself that is fairly tall...why not just do it on another taller, more grander building?
Sorry, Sol, you know I love you, but are you seriously arguing that an industry embedded in a culture, and from which it's deriving its material, should have considered centering it elsewhere?

The McGuffin was stolen in the territorial US, first off.

They escaped in a van and went underground.

Stark, Rogers and SHIELD were all centered in the US. Otherwise, you have territorial problems with a US military fortress in the sky over other nations.

Loki wanted to make it personal according to Stark's reckoning... which means Dubai, Singapore and Hong Kong were out of the question.

Story-wise, I don't see someone writing something where Stark's armor is pretty torn up, so he leaves whatever country you might propose and goes to NYC to get the Mark VII armor before the final showdown.

Especially not to make it less about a bunch of American comic book characters.
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RealD is one format of 3D, just as is Imax3D. My point was that the Imax version was a worse conversion.

I found that surprising, as I just have an ingrained feeling (thanks to years of marketing, I suppose) that Imax is better for most things, and so Imax3D would be better by extension than RealD.



Sorry, Sol, you know I love you, but are you seriously arguing that an industry embedded in a culture, and from which it's deriving its material, should have considered centering it elsewhere?

The McGuffin was stolen in the territorial US, first off.

They escaped in a van and went underground.

Stark, Rogers and SHIELD were all centered in the US. Otherwise, you have territorial problems with a US military fortress in the sky over other nations.

Loki wanted to make it personal according to Stark's reckoning... which means Dubai, Singapore and Hong Kong were out of the question.

Story-wise, I don't see someone writing something where Stark's armor is pretty torn up, so he leaves whatever country you might propose and goes to NYC to get the Mark VII armor before the final showdown.

Especially not to make it less about a bunch of American comic book characters.

i guess i didn't think it that way.

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loki want to make things personal? i thought stark said that loki wants to make a big deal about it as he wants the frills and everything, thus, he wants to do it where the entire world can see him, the logical point was the stark tower.

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I'm going to have to think that through. There was something in
either that conversation, or with others (including his talk with Natasha with killing, last moments and such) which had a very personal edge in terms of wanting to bring about suffering for the main players, but I'll have to think back and figure out if they said that explicitly.
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Saw it last night, loved it. Think I'm going to the movie tavern this afternoon to see it again.
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Why was Black Widow such a crybaby? She almosts bursts into tears with Banner the first time, she cowers in a corner for way too long, and all this after she mopped up Hammer's place in Iron Man 2. Suddenly she's unable to handle the pressure? Whedon is a idiot for this.

So, she puts them on when they're suiting up, they're featured in the credit sequence when the actress playing her is named... so why didn't they ever show Black Widow using her Widow's Bite wristbands?

I don't think Whedon is an idiot for that. He tried to portray Hulk as a force to be feared. I mean, look what he did to Loki. If he could beat a God to a pulp to where they are battered and broken, then imagine what he could do to a mere human. Black Widow also mentioned before that these were forces that they weren't trained for. I felt it fitting of the movie, even if it was a little unlike her character in the comics. But, unlike in the comics, she is around those type of superpowered characters quite a lot, when in the movie they have just been introduced to them.

As for her Widow's Bite wristbands, I felt you there the first time I saw it. I watched the movie again last night and looked out for them specifically. She used them at the end battle on two separate occassions. Point blank on some aliens necks. They didn't make a big spectacle of them, though. If you see the film again, just keep an eye out and you'll see them get used.


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I don't think Whedon is an idiot for that. He tried to portray Hulk as a force to be feared. I mean, look what he did to Loki. If he could beat a God to a pulp to where they are battered and broken, then imagine what he could do to a mere human. Black Widow also mentioned before that these were forces that they weren't trained for. I felt it fitting of the movie, even if it was a little unlike her character in the comics. But, unlike in the comics, she is around those type of superpowered characters quite a lot, when in the movie they have just been introduced to them.

As for her Widow's Bite wristbands, I felt you there the first time I saw it. I watched the movie again last night and looked out for them specifically. She used them at the end battle on two separate occassions. Point blank on some aliens necks. They didn't make a big spectacle of them, though. If you see the film again, just keep an eye out and you'll see them get used.


The film is just as good the 2nd time around. Planning on when I can see it a 3rd time.

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I didn't have a perspective on one thing, but I talked with a Whedon fan and learned something.

I wasn't a Buffy watcher, although I did like Firefly.

Apparently Whedon has certain philosophies about tiny female heroines. Okay, maybe not philosophies, but he has certain tastes in what he likes in a heroine, and they all seem to follow it (at least according to someone who has logged more hours on his stuff than I ever will.

Black Widow is apparently not the Marvel character at heart, but Whedon's reboot to fit his personal tastes. That's why Favreau was okay with Black Widow being hyper-competent in Iron Man 2, but a crybaby in Avengers. Favreau could live with keeping a character true to itself, Whedon couldn't if it was a girl. *laugh*

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I didn't have a perspective on one thing, but I talked with a Whedon fan and learned something.

I wasn't a Buffy watcher, although I did like Firefly.

Apparently Whedon has certain philosophies about tiny female heroines. Okay, maybe not philosophies, but he has certain tastes in what he likes in a heroine, and they all seem to follow it (at least according to someone who has logged more hours on his stuff than I ever will.

Black Widow is apparently not the Marvel character at heart, but Whedon's reboot to fit his personal tastes. That's why Favreau was okay with Black Widow being hyper-competent in Iron Man 2, but a crybaby in Avengers. Favreau could live with keeping a character true to itself, Whedon couldn't if it was a girl. *laugh*
First of all, I think we saw two different movies, because nothing I saw on the screen lead me to believe she was a crybaby. She was simply an actual human being, as opposed to being a robot in Iron Man 2.

I think it's simpler than you make it out to be. Joss Whedon always tends to shoot for competent-but-flawed characters, which is generally apparent if you're familiar with his works. The character that strikes me as being most similar to Joss' Black Widow is Zoe from Firefly: extremely competent and all business for the most part, but can still lose it when pushed in the wrong direction.

There's also the matter in that, in Iron Man 2, there was literally nothing for her character to be emotional about, as she had no personal connection to anything in the movie. Here, we're shown how she's in love with Hawkeye, and even despite that, she still kicked his ass when the chips were down. The only other time when she "can't take it" involves getting chased through SHIELD's sky fortress by a rampaging Hulk. The guy did beat Loki to a pulp, after all.

(And just for the record, I'm generally in the same boat regarding Whedon' previous work. Loved Firefly and Serenity, indifferent towards everything else. It's not that it's bad, it's just INCREDIBLY campy.)
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I fail to see how Black Widow was a cry baby. She beat up a bunch of guys while tied to a ....ing chair. The only two times she gets a bit flustered were A. when she was trying to trick Loki, which succeeded, and B. after she got punched by the Hulk, and let's be honest, any human is going to feel quite shitty after being hit by him. She's a human being trying to fight alongside and against superhumans and Gods who can level entire buildings, it's no surprise there are moments where their mortality is more obvious.I think that's a good touch.
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Okay, so you can't see it in the clip, so maybe I'm a victim of watching it in Imax and in RealD on huge screens. This little scene...

THE AVENGERS - "Stop Lying!" Clip (HD) - YouTube

...has, at the last part and going on, a huge close up of tears welling up in her eyes, going on for a large amount of screen time. It was the same hysteria she later showed when she had her foot trapped while near Banner, and as she huddled from the point the Hulk had left until she answered the radio call eons later.

I saw it. My friends all saw it too, so I know it wasn't my imagination.

And... none of the other characters had that kind of stuff in their "character arc"... so I don't know why it was necessary to add it to the arc of Black Widow.

It could be that I don't expect a competent woman to start crying when in a combat situation. Let's just chalk it up to our different expectations, and to Tony Stark, Steve Rogers, Nick Fury and Bruce Banner holding their tears in better than Black Widow, as well as Agent Coulson after he got pinned like a bug. *laugh*

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That movie was simply fantastic. I especially liked how Ruffalo did Bruce Banner, his representation was really the first movie Banner that wasn't terrible.

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you didn't really miss much. no dialog was said, nor was it hinting towards a future part. its just a funny/awkward scene
Which me and my friends plan to reenact at the shwarma place about two blocks from one of my friends' house. None of us have ever tried it before, so why the hell not?

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Which me and my friends plan to reenact at the shwarma place about two blocks from one of my friends' house. None of us have ever tried it before, so why the hell not?
oh, you're in for a treat!

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