Wheel of Time

Chris · 10-27-2006, 11:15 AM

So after ~6 months, I finished up last night rereading all of books 1-9 and then book 10. I had read the first 9 a couple of years ago, but anyone that's read it will understand why you have to reread it if you put it down.

I still think it's ....ing amazing, despite a lot of people who were disappointed with book 10. Granted there was a LOT of plot, but it seems to be completely set up now for some serious asskickage in book 11.

So for those of you that have read Knife of Dreams, how is it? Please don't give any spoilers, because I just ordered the hardcover.

Drew · 10-27-2006, 01:15 PM

Um, million dollar question - is 11 the last? I refuse to pick up that series again until it's done. I rread them voraciously in high school, and got sick of picking one up, ripping through it in three days, then having to wait a year for the next one, where NOTHING HAPPENED.

Chris · 10-27-2006, 01:26 PM

Nope.

Drew · 10-27-2006, 01:27 PM

.....

Chris · 10-27-2006, 01:27 PM

But he did write a #@$@#$@# prequel after book 10!

Mastodon · 10-27-2006, 02:01 PM

I've never heard of this series before.

Chris · 10-27-2006, 02:05 PM

It's ....ing awesome.

The Dark Wolf · 10-27-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

It's ....ing awesome.

It has problems. Lots. (But anything this massive will, at times.)

But that doesn't take away at all from the fact that it's a brilliant series.

It's like the Uber-LotR. Jordan is a fantastic writer in many ways (lacking in some), but he can tell such an engrossing story. You completely get lost in his world, as I'm sure Chris will agree. It's almost as good as the Dark Tower, or LotR, and better in some ways.

Chris, book 11 was so much better than 7, 8, 9, and 10. He actually gets the plot rolling again, like I've told you before, and *gasp* shit ACTUALLY HAPPENS!

Rand, Perrin, and Mat - 3 of the coolest ....ing literary, fantasy heroes ever.

Chris · 10-27-2006, 02:41 PM

That's so damn good to hear man. Honestly I enjoyed the books a lot more the second time because I wasn't constantly waiting for something to happen in the last 4 books. Going into it knowing it was all plot, I just devoured it all. I didn't know that 11 wasn't out in paperback yet, and when I went to Barnes & Noble today I was almost disappointed that it wasn't there - I was prepared to read it in my car for an hour at lunch.

I really can't wait until it shows up. So much that I'm not going to pick another book up until it gets here next week.

All in all I can't say that I like WoT nearly as much as Dark Tower, but it's #2 easily. (Dark Tower is, imo, the greatest bit of fantasy ever written, and Roland is the ....ing man, but that's another topic altogether).

I'll start Martin's stuff after I finish 11 and the WoT Prequel.

The Dark Wolf · 10-27-2006, 02:44 PM

Martin, like Jordan, is even better a re-read, Chris, especially when read concurrently. None of that confused waiting.

I'm re-reading The Dark Tower next, after I finish the Necroscope stuff.

Chris · 10-27-2006, 02:48 PM

It's nice to have the Martin stuff on-deck. I'll probably read something drama-esque between them so that I don't get fantasied out, but I have a feeling I'm going to plow through Fire and Ice like Drew through a bottle of booze on a Sunday morning.

The Dark Wolf · 10-27-2006, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

It's nice to have the Martin stuff on-deck. I'll probably read something drama-esque between them so that I don't get fantasied out, but I have a feeling I'm going to plow through Fire and Ice like Drew through a bottle of booze on a Sunday morning.

Or Drew through a Pink Polo shirt sale at J Crew.

Toshiro · 10-27-2006, 07:57 PM

Great series, though I like to refer to it as "The Ream Of Paper".

Vegetta · 10-27-2006, 09:09 PM

I tired to read WOT years ago - got half way through book one - I actually hated it and did not finish it. I read tons of stuff - lots of which that would be considered much worse than this series but I just could not get into WOT.

I tend to be a bit more critical of Fantasy novels then other stuff (even more so than science fiction)

Check out some of these titles (They rock if ya dont believe me just read amazon reviews

)

Julian May - Saga of Pliocene Exile
The Many Colored Land
THe Golden Torc
The Nonborn king
The Adversary

China Mielville
Perdido Street Station
The Scar
Iron Council

Neal Steaphenson - Baroque Cycle
Quicksilver
The Confusion
System of the World

Tim Powers
The Auubis Gates

Charles De lint
Trader (Main character is a luthier

TC Boyle
Water Music
East is East
Budding Prospects
Stories
(Avoid Road to Wellville at all costs - if you've seen the movie you'll know why)

technomancer · 10-27-2006, 10:07 PM

Tim Powers rules, all of his shit is fantastic.

TDW, how is the newer Necroscope stuff? I read the original 6 or so books with Harry Keogh ages ago but haven't read the newer series.

Ok, end of thread hijack as I haven't read WoT.

The Dark Wolf · 10-27-2006, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by technomancer

TDW, how is the newer Necroscope stuff? I read the original 6 or so books with Harry Keogh ages ago but haven't read the newer series.

I wish I could tell ya, bro. I'm on my first read through of the original stuff. I haven't got into the newer books as of yet.

Chris may have read them.

Nic · 10-29-2006, 09:09 PM

Yeah, I really liked these up until about book 6. Then, just like everyone else says, Jordan forgot to have anything happen at all that advances the plot. The Sword of Truth novels seem to be having the same problem. Come on, stop milking it for the money and get on with it.
George R. R. Martin is the shit, though. But he's only on book, what, book 4 now. He has a long way to possibly fall into the same trap as WoT and SoT.

The Dark Wolf · 10-29-2006, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nic

Yeah, I really liked these up until about book 6. Then, just like everyone else says, Jordan forgot to have anything happen at all that advances the plot. The Sword of Truth novels seem to be having the same problem. Come on, stop milking it for the money and get on with it.
George R. R. Martin is the shit, though. But he's only on book, what, book 4 now. He has a long way to possibly fall into the same trap as WoT and SoT.

Martin has said that ASoIaF will end at like book 6 or 7, I believe.

Chris · 10-29-2006, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dark Wolf

I wish I could tell ya, bro. I'm on my first read through of the original stuff. I haven't got into the newer books as of yet.

Chris may have read them.

I only read the Keogh stuff as well. Actually, I wasn't even aware that there was more after them. I liked the first book the best, something about it, with him talking to the vampire in the ground, etc, really just set a totally kickass mood.

Chris · 10-29-2006, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nic

Yeah, I really liked these up until about book 6. Then, just like everyone else says, Jordan forgot to have anything happen at all that advances the plot. The Sword of Truth novels seem to be having the same problem. Come on, stop milking it for the money and get on with it.
George R. R. Martin is the shit, though. But he's only on book, what, book 4 now. He has a long way to possibly fall into the same trap as WoT and SoT.

That really did bug me the first time around, but after a re-read, without flipping each chapter saying "Maybe THIS will be the chapter that Rand finally kicks some goddamn ass", I was able to get way more into it.

Vegetta · 10-30-2006, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nic

Yeah, I really liked these up until about book 6. Then, just like everyone else says, Jordan forgot to have anything happen at all that advances the plot. The Sword of Truth novels seem to be having the same problem. Come on, stop milking it for the money and get on with it.
George R. R. Martin is the shit, though. But he's only on book, what, book 4 now. He has a long way to possibly fall into the same trap as WoT and SoT.

This is a common problem in fantasy lit. Lets see how many books we can milk out of this...

I am friends with RA Salvatore's Son and talk to him in MIrc a lot - we were discussing this very fact a couple of weeks ago. He kind of laughed and said "But it is paying for my college" hahaha

Chris · 10-31-2006, 05:28 PM

About to get started.

Drew · 10-31-2006, 05:55 PM

I'm ignoring that booze crack, by the way, ....er.

Chris · 11-01-2006, 10:47 AM

Awright, I got about 150 pages in last night, and it totally kicks ass so far.

The fact that it opens up with Galad killing Valda is more action than all of the last 3 books combined.

Drew · 11-01-2006, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris

Awright, I got about 150 pages in last night, and it totally kicks ass so far.

The fact that it opens up with Galad killing Valda is more action than all of the last 3 books combined.

That's evil, Chris. I'm soooo tempted to read that, and then I had to immediately scroll down and page down a bit so I couldn't read it when I quoted it for a reply.

I'm assuming something happens. I waited YEARS for something to happen.

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10-27-2006, 11:15 AM	#1
Chris metalguitarist.org Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston, Mass Posts: 16,696 Thanked: 571 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Wheel of Time So after ~6 months, I finished up last night rereading all of books 1-9 and then book 10. I had read the first 9 a couple of years ago, but anyone that's read it will understand why you have to reread it if you put it down. I still think it's ....ing amazing, despite a lot of people who were disappointed with book 10. Granted there was a LOT of plot, but it seems to be completely set up now for some serious asskickage in book 11. So for those of you that have read Knife of Dreams, how is it? Please don't give any spoilers, because I just ordered the hardcover. Amp: 6505+ / Recto 4x12s Rack: Axe-Fx II / HD1221s

10-27-2006, 01:26 PM	#3
Chris metalguitarist.org Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston, Mass Posts: 16,696 Thanked: 571 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Nope. Amp: 6505+ / Recto 4x12s Rack: Axe-Fx II / HD1221s

10-27-2006, 01:27 PM	#4
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10-27-2006, 01:27 PM	#5
Chris metalguitarist.org Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston, Mass Posts: 16,696 Thanked: 571 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	But he did write a #@$@#$@# prequel after book 10! Amp: 6505+ / Recto 4x12s Rack: Axe-Fx II / HD1221s

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10-27-2006, 01:15 PM	#2
Drew Fear the Polo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 21,656 Thanked: 154 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Um, million dollar question - is 11 the last? I refuse to pick up that series again until it's done. I rread them voraciously in high school, and got sick of picking one up, ripping through it in three days, then having to wait a year for the next one, where NOTHING HAPPENED. "...and everything under the sun is in tune, but the sun is eclipsed by the moon." http://www.metalguitarist.org

10-27-2006, 02:01 PM	#6
Mastodon Songs about My Cats Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bizurke Posts: 6,644 Thanked: 43 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've never heard of this series before.

10-27-2006, 02:05 PM	#7
Chris metalguitarist.org Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston, Mass Posts: 16,696 Thanked: 571 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	It's ....ing awesome. Amp: 6505+ / Recto 4x12s Rack: Axe-Fx II / HD1221s

10-27-2006, 02:41 PM	#9
Chris metalguitarist.org Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston, Mass Posts: 16,696 Thanked: 571 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	That's so damn good to hear man. Honestly I enjoyed the books a lot more the second time because I wasn't constantly waiting for something to happen in the last 4 books. Going into it knowing it was all plot, I just devoured it all. I didn't know that 11 wasn't out in paperback yet, and when I went to Barnes & Noble today I was almost disappointed that it wasn't there - I was prepared to read it in my car for an hour at lunch. I really can't wait until it shows up. So much that I'm not going to pick another book up until it gets here next week. All in all I can't say that I like WoT nearly as much as Dark Tower, but it's #2 easily. (Dark Tower is, imo, the greatest bit of fantasy ever written, and Roland is the ....ing man, but that's another topic altogether). I'll start Martin's stuff after I finish 11 and the WoT Prequel. Amp: 6505+ / Recto 4x12s Rack: Axe-Fx II / HD1221s

10-27-2006, 02:44 PM	#10
The Dark Wolf *Canis lupis obscurus* Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toledo, Ohio. USA Posts: 15,477 Thanked: 94 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Martin, like Jordan, is even better a re-read, Chris, especially when read concurrently. None of that confused waiting. I'm re-reading The Dark Tower next, after I finish the Necroscope stuff. http://www.wolf.org

10-27-2006, 02:48 PM	#11
Chris metalguitarist.org Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston, Mass Posts: 16,696 Thanked: 571 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	It's nice to have the Martin stuff on-deck. I'll probably read something drama-esque between them so that I don't get fantasied out, but I have a feeling I'm going to plow through Fire and Ice like Drew through a bottle of booze on a Sunday morning. Amp: 6505+ / Recto 4x12s Rack: Axe-Fx II / HD1221s

10-27-2006, 07:57 PM	#13
Toshiro Mötherfucker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 5,930 Thanked: 20 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Great series, though I like to refer to it as "The Ream Of Paper". Um, Like Sound Files and Stuff ^_^ oh yeah, and some crappy videos too!

10-27-2006, 09:09 PM	#14
Vegetta SS.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Near Morgantown WV Posts: 2,238 Thanked: 17 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I tired to read WOT years ago - got half way through book one - I actually hated it and did not finish it. I read tons of stuff - lots of which that would be considered much worse than this series but I just could not get into WOT. I tend to be a bit more critical of Fantasy novels then other stuff (even more so than science fiction) Check out some of these titles (They rock if ya dont believe me just read amazon reviews ) Julian May - Saga of Pliocene Exile The Many Colored Land THe Golden Torc The Nonborn king The Adversary China Mielville Perdido Street Station The Scar Iron Council Neal Steaphenson - Baroque Cycle Quicksilver The Confusion System of the World Tim Powers The Auubis Gates Charles De lint Trader (Main character is a luthier TC Boyle Water Music East is East Budding Prospects Stories (Avoid Road to Wellville at all costs - if you've seen the movie you'll know why) this space for rent

10-27-2006, 10:07 PM	#15
technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus • Super Moderator • Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Out there, somewhere Posts: 23,098 Thanked: 173 Feedback Score: 34 reviews	Tim Powers rules, all of his shit is fantastic. TDW, how is the newer Necroscope stuff? I read the original 6 or so books with Harry Keogh ages ago but haven't read the newer series. Ok, end of thread hijack as I haven't read WoT.

10-29-2006, 09:09 PM	#17
Nic ss.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 60 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, I really liked these up until about book 6. Then, just like everyone else says, Jordan forgot to have anything happen at all that advances the plot. The Sword of Truth novels seem to be having the same problem. Come on, stop milking it for the money and get on with it. George R. R. Martin is the shit, though. But he's only on book, what, book 4 now. He has a long way to possibly fall into the same trap as WoT and SoT.

10-31-2006, 05:55 PM	#23
Drew Fear the Polo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 21,656 Thanked: 154 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I'm ignoring that booze crack, by the way, ....er. "...and everything under the sun is in tune, but the sun is eclipsed by the moon." http://www.metalguitarist.org

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