X Men: First Class

EtherealEntity · 06-02-2011, 08:21 AM

Who's seen the new one? I went and saw it lastnight and it was absolutely brilliant. Highly recommended!
I have only seen X Men before this and don't really remember it. It was a spur of the moment viewing.
First Class is set at the beginning, and as far as I know before any of the existing movies.
What's the viewing order so I can catch up on the story?

For anyone who has seen it - why does Kevin Bacon look younger, or at least the same age, years later in the film after the scene at the camp? Is he not meant to age?

8Fingers · 06-02-2011, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by EtherealEntity

For anyone who has seen it - why does Kevin Bacon look younger, or at least the same age, years later in the film after the scene at the camp? Is he not meant to age?

because he gotta cut loose, footloose

Still didn't watch this one but I hated all others

toiletstand · 06-02-2011, 09:36 AM

ill save you the rage. just watch xmen 2 united and dont bother with the last stand or origins.

Skyblue · 06-02-2011, 09:42 AM

I'm hoping to watch it someday next week. Trailers looked pretty good.

toiletstand · 06-02-2011, 09:47 AM

yeah im pretty excited for this new one.

Sicarius · 06-02-2011, 11:31 AM

I'm still kind of miffed about the first class cast of mutants.

But I'm still excited to see the movie. What's up with a Red Night Crawler though?

technomancer · 06-02-2011, 11:52 AM

Nevermind folks, my rant missed that the Angel in the movie isn't Warren Worthington III. My bad

TheSilentWater · 06-02-2011, 12:00 PM

The red dude was actually Azazel, Nightcrawler's biological dad.
But yeah, this film was actually pretty good, much better than X-Men 3. I vastly preferred the first half before it got all superhero-ey, though. But nevertheless, I enjoyed it.

13point9 · 06-02-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by technomancer

Angel is ....ing teenage girl with ....ing fairy wings. Screw this movie. These just keep going further and further down hill.

there are 2 'Angel' characters in X Men, One was played by Ben Foster in Last Stand (who's mutant name was Angel real name in the comics being Warren Worthington III) and this one who's name is Angel Salvadore, who has dragonfly wings and is a young woman...

Sicarius · 06-02-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSilentWater

The red dude was actually Azazel, Nightcrawler's biological dad.
But yeah, this film was actually pretty good, much better than X-Men 3. I vastly preferred the first half before it got all superhero-ey, though. But nevertheless, I enjoyed it.

Yeah I read up on it a little while ago, was gonna edit but was too late, lol.

yeah... The only reason First Class has a chance of being good is Singer came back on to produce it.

He broke a great thing when he left the X-Men franchise to do Superman Returns, and they were both ....ing terrible.

I liked X-Men Origins: Wolverine. It was meh, but I liked it none-the-less.

I really want to see ArchAngel in a movie. Love me some Blue Warren Worthington III.

MFB · 06-02-2011, 12:15 PM

So, if possible, can someone tell me why they put Scott Summers BROTHER (Havok) in the movie versus his FATHER (Corsair) and if they made any mention of this? Seems like a bit of a blunder for most comics fans to pick up and then have it not addressed in the film. If it spoils anything then don't bother since I'm not seeing it for another few days (comes out tomorrow for starters).

setsuna7 · 06-02-2011, 12:15 PM

Saw it,amazing storyline..they finally depict why there's so much mutual respect between Xavier and Lehnsherr!! Sad ending though with Xavier being paralyzed and that it was Lehnsherr fault..

TheSilentWater · 06-02-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MFB

So, if possible, can someone tell me why they put Scott Summers BROTHER (Havok) in the movie versus his FATHER (Corsair) and if they made any mention of this? Seems like a bit of a blunder for most comics fans to pick up and then have it not addressed in the film. If it spoils anything then don't bother since I'm not seeing it for another few days (comes out tomorrow for starters).

Yeah, I noticed that, but I tried not to let it bother me. I don't recall there being a narrative reason for it, either.

Scar Symmetry · 06-02-2011, 12:28 PM

I'mma go see it

technomancer · 06-02-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 13point9

there are 2 'Angel' characters in X Men, One was played by Ben Foster in Last Stand (who's mutant name was Angel real name in the comics being Warren Worthington III) and this one who's name is Angel Salvadore, who has dragonfly wings and is a young woman...

Whoops subtract 10 geek points, I was unaware of that

PS - I'll second that I would love to see Archangel in a movie

Triple-J · 06-02-2011, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MFB

So, if possible, can someone tell me why they put Scott Summers BROTHER (Havok) in the movie versus his FATHER (Corsair) and if they made any mention of this? Seems like a bit of a blunder for most comics fans to pick up and then have it not addressed in the film. If it spoils anything then don't bother since I'm not seeing it for another few days (comes out tomorrow for starters).

It's because they've totally ignored his relation to Scott Summers and just used the character as a stand alone kind of like how Juggernaut in the comics is Xavier's step brother but in the X3 movie he's not related to him at all.

As for the movie I'm pretty excited as it was written by Jane Goldman who apart from being a total fox is shaping up to be a great screen writer plus IGN gave it a good review and they rarely get things wrong they also did a great article about it which is well worth a read. Why X-Men: First Class is the Best X-Men Film Yet - Movies Feature at IGN

Sicarius · 06-02-2011, 12:49 PM

They've ignored a lot, because Emma Frost appears in the Origins movie, and she can't be older than 15 during the Three Mile Island incident.

and now here she is prior to it all at 18 or whatever they're passing January Jones off as.

I mean, they're ....ing up the continuity anyway, so why not break the brother/brother connection of Scott and Alex? Make 'em cousins, hell, it'll work.

Did not know Corsair was in the movie though. That's a bit interesting.

MFB · 06-02-2011, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sicarius

They've ignored a lot, because Emma Frost appears in the Origins movie, and she can't be older than 15 during the Three Mile Island incident.

and now here she is prior to it all at 18 or whatever they're passing January Jones off as.

I mean, they're ....ing up the continuity anyway, so why not break the brother/brother connection of Scott and Alex? Make 'em cousins, hell, it'll work.

Did not know Corsair was in the movie though. That's a bit interesting.

That's the thing, Corsairs ISN'T in the movie

The dude throwing all the beams of energy around is Alex Summers, Scott's brother and SON of Corsair so it's like "GOD DAMN IT RAAAHHHH"

Sicarius · 06-02-2011, 01:17 PM

I know who they are, but if Corsair isn't in the movie why bring him up? He wasn't even part of the real first class, it was Iceman, Beast/Puck, Marvel Girl/Jean Grey, Cyclops, and Angel.

You got my hopes of seeing some early hints of the Star Jammers up

MFB · 06-02-2011, 01:21 PM

I brought him up simply because I wanted to know if the issue of him versus his son being in it was addressed; it's a huge annoyance knowing the Corsair isn't in it, nor being part of the First Class, yet to add characters to it - they threw someone who had powers similar but came LATER in the story and then never address it.

soliloquy · 06-03-2011, 11:52 PM

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ill save you the rage. just watch xmen 2 united and dont bother with the last stand or origins.

i actually thought that the first was fairly weak, the second was a bit better, the third was brilliant, and the X-men:first class was the best so far. each of the movies constantly kept getting more and more epic in terms of their built up and it seemed that they all have more at stake as the movies progressed. the first and second were fairly 'meh' as nothing really was happening. no real lives at stake. no real reason to fight anyone or anything, the feud between magnito and Xavier is also not really explained well until the 3rd part. and the first part is just about rouge and wolverine and just an emotional connection between the two, which they almost wrote off in the second and third movie....kinda odd...

X-men: Origins about wolverine was just a horrible movie!

as for why bacon looked younger was due to bottox, and lots of it!

one thing i dont under stand is, when the first x-men starts, they never explained as to what happened to everyone of the guys from origins. sure, they prolly didnt intend to make first class back then, but still, i'm curious...

Sicarius · 06-03-2011, 11:56 PM

from what I can gather the people doing First class are ignoring the events in Origins: Wolverine.

I loved that movie, .... the haters.

Explorer · 06-04-2011, 02:27 AM

I liked the movie quite a lot.

I love how fans get caught up in the minutia of the comics, angered about how things changed, when I remember all kinds of reorientation of the storylines over the years in the Marvel comics. Which version should they remain faithful to? I'm not worried about it.

Regarding Shaw's age... they talked about it in the film. Did you go out for popcorn?

EtherealEntity · 06-04-2011, 03:52 AM

You guys sure know your stuff!

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Originally Posted by Explorer

Regarding Shaw's age... they talked about it in the film. Did you go out for popcorn?

I presumed that was the case, which confused me as I'm very attentive

I guess Xavier wiped my mind or so, remind me

Kwirk · 06-04-2011, 09:09 AM

.... yeah. Saw this last night, it was awesome. I'm a huge Xmen fan and love all of the movies. Going to see it again today. Hah.

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06-02-2011, 08:21 AM	#1
EtherealEntity T=UWx(2xLxF)^2/386.4 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Southend-on-Sea, Essex, U.K Posts: 8,267 Thanked: 75 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	X Men: First Class Who's seen the new one? I went and saw it lastnight and it was absolutely brilliant. Highly recommended! I have only seen X Men before this and don't really remember it. It was a spur of the moment viewing. First Class is set at the beginning, and as far as I know before any of the existing movies. What's the viewing order so I can catch up on the story? For anyone who has seen it - why does Kevin Bacon look younger, or at least the same age, years later in the film after the scene at the camp? Is he not meant to age?

06-02-2011, 09:36 AM	#3
toiletstand /\'...'/\ Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 1,651 Thanked: 23 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	ill save you the rage. just watch xmen 2 united and dont bother with the last stand or origins. Sicarius likes this.

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technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus • Super Moderator • Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Out there, somewhere Posts: 23,098 Thanked: 173 Feedback Score: 34 reviews	Nevermind folks, my rant missed that the Angel in the movie isn't Warren Worthington III. My bad CrushingAnvil likes this. Incoming It's a surprise

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TheSilentWater is a nerd. Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 985 Thanked: 13 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The red dude was actually Azazel, Nightcrawler's biological dad. But yeah, this film was actually pretty good, much better than X-Men 3. I vastly preferred the first half before it got all superhero-ey, though. But nevertheless, I enjoyed it. setsuna7 likes this.

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06-02-2011, 09:42 AM	#4
Skyblue SS.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Israel Posts: 590 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm hoping to watch it someday next week. Trailers looked pretty good.

06-02-2011, 09:47 AM	#5
toiletstand /\'...'/\ Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 1,651 Thanked: 23 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	yeah im pretty excited for this new one.

06-02-2011, 11:31 AM	#6
Sicarius Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Conroe, Tx Posts: 2,548 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm still kind of miffed about the first class cast of mutants. But I'm still excited to see the movie. What's up with a Red Night Crawler though?

06-02-2011, 12:15 PM	#11
MFB I'M A MONSTER! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 7,397 Thanked: 84 Feedback Score: 12 reviews	So, if possible, can someone tell me why they put Scott Summers BROTHER (Havok) in the movie versus his FATHER (Corsair) and if they made any mention of this? Seems like a bit of a blunder for most comics fans to pick up and then have it not addressed in the film. If it spoils anything then don't bother since I'm not seeing it for another few days (comes out tomorrow for starters). Despised_0515 likes this. (´･ω･`) *In space, no one can hear you bree.* - Metal Ken

06-02-2011, 12:15 PM	#12
setsuna7 Poor Gearwhore Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Kuala Lumpur,Malaysia Posts: 2,349 Thanked: 18 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Saw it,amazing storyline..they finally depict why there's so much mutual respect between Xavier and Lehnsherr!! Sad ending though with Xavier being paralyzed and that it was Lehnsherr fault..

06-02-2011, 12:28 PM	#14
Scar Symmetry Ex Whiny Bitch Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 15,686 Thanked: 377 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I'mma go see it Ever noticed how some people are real dicks on the internet, but when they post something involving their band, they make the effort to be nice? Funny that...

06-02-2011, 12:49 PM	#17
Sicarius Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Conroe, Tx Posts: 2,548 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	They've ignored a lot, because Emma Frost appears in the Origins movie, and she can't be older than 15 during the Three Mile Island incident. and now here she is prior to it all at 18 or whatever they're passing January Jones off as. I mean, they're ....ing up the continuity anyway, so why not break the brother/brother connection of Scott and Alex? Make 'em cousins, hell, it'll work. Did not know Corsair was in the movie though. That's a bit interesting.

06-02-2011, 01:17 PM	#19
Sicarius Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Conroe, Tx Posts: 2,548 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know who they are, but if Corsair isn't in the movie why bring him up? He wasn't even part of the real first class, it was Iceman, Beast/Puck, Marvel Girl/Jean Grey, Cyclops, and Angel. You got my hopes of seeing some early hints of the Star Jammers up

06-02-2011, 01:21 PM	#20
MFB I'M A MONSTER! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 7,397 Thanked: 84 Feedback Score: 12 reviews	I brought him up simply because I wanted to know if the issue of him versus his son being in it was addressed; it's a huge annoyance knowing the Corsair isn't in it, nor being part of the First Class, yet to add characters to it - they threw someone who had powers similar but came LATER in the story and then never address it. (´･ω･`) *In space, no one can hear you bree.* - Metal Ken

06-03-2011, 11:56 PM	#22
Sicarius Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Conroe, Tx Posts: 2,548 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	from what I can gather the people doing First class are ignoring the events in Origins: Wolverine. I loved that movie, .... the haters.

06-04-2011, 02:27 AM	#23
Explorer He seldomly knows... Join Date: May 2009 Location: Formerly from Cucaramacatacatirimilcote... Posts: 3,696 Thanked: 40 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I liked the movie quite a lot. I love how fans get caught up in the minutia of the comics, angered about how things changed, when I remember all kinds of reorientation of the storylines over the years in the Marvel comics. Which version should they remain faithful to? I'm not worried about it. Regarding Shaw's age... they talked about it in the film. Did you go out for popcorn? soliloquy and Alberto7 like this. If you don't care enough to research your own question, why should anyone else care more? "Pay no attention to his long winded posts... (Explorer) seldomly knows what he's talking about." Adam Of Angels "Actual knowledge and a google bookmark are very different things." Anonymous neg-repper

06-04-2011, 09:09 AM	#25
Kwirk The Wrong Advices Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 698 Thanked: 16 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	.... yeah. Saw this last night, it was awesome. I'm a huge Xmen fan and love all of the movies. Going to see it again today. Hah.

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