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Unread 06-02-2011, 08:21 AM   #1
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X Men: First Class

Who's seen the new one? I went and saw it lastnight and it was absolutely brilliant. Highly recommended!
I have only seen X Men before this and don't really remember it. It was a spur of the moment viewing.
First Class is set at the beginning, and as far as I know before any of the existing movies.
What's the viewing order so I can catch up on the story?

For anyone who has seen it - why does Kevin Bacon look younger, or at least the same age, years later in the film after the scene at the camp? Is he not meant to age?
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Unread 06-02-2011, 09:06 AM   #2
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For anyone who has seen it - why does Kevin Bacon look younger, or at least the same age, years later in the film after the scene at the camp? Is he not meant to age?
because he gotta cut loose, footloose

Still didn't watch this one but I hated all others
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ill save you the rage. just watch xmen 2 united and dont bother with the last stand or origins.
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I'm hoping to watch it someday next week. Trailers looked pretty good.
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yeah im pretty excited for this new one.
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I'm still kind of miffed about the first class cast of mutants.

But I'm still excited to see the movie. What's up with a Red Night Crawler though?
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Nevermind folks, my rant missed that the Angel in the movie isn't Warren Worthington III. My bad
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The red dude was actually Azazel, Nightcrawler's biological dad.
But yeah, this film was actually pretty good, much better than X-Men 3. I vastly preferred the first half before it got all superhero-ey, though. But nevertheless, I enjoyed it.
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Angel is ....ing teenage girl with ....ing fairy wings. Screw this movie. These just keep going further and further down hill.
there are 2 'Angel' characters in X Men, One was played by Ben Foster in Last Stand (who's mutant name was Angel real name in the comics being Warren Worthington III) and this one who's name is Angel Salvadore, who has dragonfly wings and is a young woman...

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The red dude was actually Azazel, Nightcrawler's biological dad.
But yeah, this film was actually pretty good, much better than X-Men 3. I vastly preferred the first half before it got all superhero-ey, though. But nevertheless, I enjoyed it.
Yeah I read up on it a little while ago, was gonna edit but was too late, lol.

yeah... The only reason First Class has a chance of being good is Singer came back on to produce it.

He broke a great thing when he left the X-Men franchise to do Superman Returns, and they were both ....ing terrible.

I liked X-Men Origins: Wolverine. It was meh, but I liked it none-the-less.

I really want to see ArchAngel in a movie. Love me some Blue Warren Worthington III.
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So, if possible, can someone tell me why they put Scott Summers BROTHER (Havok) in the movie versus his FATHER (Corsair) and if they made any mention of this? Seems like a bit of a blunder for most comics fans to pick up and then have it not addressed in the film. If it spoils anything then don't bother since I'm not seeing it for another few days (comes out tomorrow for starters).
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Saw it,amazing storyline..they finally depict why there's so much mutual respect between Xavier and Lehnsherr!! Sad ending though with Xavier being paralyzed and that it was Lehnsherr fault..
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So, if possible, can someone tell me why they put Scott Summers BROTHER (Havok) in the movie versus his FATHER (Corsair) and if they made any mention of this? Seems like a bit of a blunder for most comics fans to pick up and then have it not addressed in the film. If it spoils anything then don't bother since I'm not seeing it for another few days (comes out tomorrow for starters).
Yeah, I noticed that, but I tried not to let it bother me. I don't recall there being a narrative reason for it, either.
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I'mma go see it

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Whoops subtract 10 geek points, I was unaware of that

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So, if possible, can someone tell me why they put Scott Summers BROTHER (Havok) in the movie versus his FATHER (Corsair) and if they made any mention of this? Seems like a bit of a blunder for most comics fans to pick up and then have it not addressed in the film. If it spoils anything then don't bother since I'm not seeing it for another few days (comes out tomorrow for starters).
It's because they've totally ignored his relation to Scott Summers and just used the character as a stand alone kind of like how Juggernaut in the comics is Xavier's step brother but in the X3 movie he's not related to him at all.

As for the movie I'm pretty excited as it was written by Jane Goldman who apart from being a total fox is shaping up to be a great screen writer plus IGN gave it a good review and they rarely get things wrong they also did a great article about it which is well worth a read. Why X-Men: First Class is the Best X-Men Film Yet - Movies Feature at IGN

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They've ignored a lot, because Emma Frost appears in the Origins movie, and she can't be older than 15 during the Three Mile Island incident.

and now here she is prior to it all at 18 or whatever they're passing January Jones off as.

I mean, they're ....ing up the continuity anyway, so why not break the brother/brother connection of Scott and Alex? Make 'em cousins, hell, it'll work.

Did not know Corsair was in the movie though. That's a bit interesting.
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They've ignored a lot, because Emma Frost appears in the Origins movie, and she can't be older than 15 during the Three Mile Island incident.

and now here she is prior to it all at 18 or whatever they're passing January Jones off as.

I mean, they're ....ing up the continuity anyway, so why not break the brother/brother connection of Scott and Alex? Make 'em cousins, hell, it'll work.

Did not know Corsair was in the movie though. That's a bit interesting.
That's the thing, Corsairs ISN'T in the movie The dude throwing all the beams of energy around is Alex Summers, Scott's brother and SON of Corsair so it's like "GOD DAMN IT RAAAHHHH"

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I know who they are, but if Corsair isn't in the movie why bring him up? He wasn't even part of the real first class, it was Iceman, Beast/Puck, Marvel Girl/Jean Grey, Cyclops, and Angel.

You got my hopes of seeing some early hints of the Star Jammers up
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I brought him up simply because I wanted to know if the issue of him versus his son being in it was addressed; it's a huge annoyance knowing the Corsair isn't in it, nor being part of the First Class, yet to add characters to it - they threw someone who had powers similar but came LATER in the story and then never address it.

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ill save you the rage. just watch xmen 2 united and dont bother with the last stand or origins.
i actually thought that the first was fairly weak, the second was a bit better, the third was brilliant, and the X-men:first class was the best so far. each of the movies constantly kept getting more and more epic in terms of their built up and it seemed that they all have more at stake as the movies progressed. the first and second were fairly 'meh' as nothing really was happening. no real lives at stake. no real reason to fight anyone or anything, the feud between magnito and Xavier is also not really explained well until the 3rd part. and the first part is just about rouge and wolverine and just an emotional connection between the two, which they almost wrote off in the second and third movie....kinda odd...

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from what I can gather the people doing First class are ignoring the events in Origins: Wolverine.

I loved that movie, .... the haters.
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I liked the movie quite a lot.

I love how fans get caught up in the minutia of the comics, angered about how things changed, when I remember all kinds of reorientation of the storylines over the years in the Marvel comics. Which version should they remain faithful to? I'm not worried about it.

Regarding Shaw's age... they talked about it in the film. Did you go out for popcorn?
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I presumed that was the case, which confused me as I'm very attentive I guess Xavier wiped my mind or so, remind me
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.... yeah. Saw this last night, it was awesome. I'm a huge Xmen fan and love all of the movies. Going to see it again today. Hah.
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