[distressed_romeo]

Bad fretwork is totally unforgivable on a guitar that costs that much.

[bostjan]

Appetite for Destruction was still a pretty kickass album, though.



So was Aperitif for Destruction.



Think about this, though. People who want to buy cars that come with guitars to feel hip are not likely to go for a VW.

[The Dark Wolf]

Originally Posted by Naren

But who would buy a car to get a guitar? It just seems really bizarre to me... It's like, "Hey, buy this laptop and get a free Mick Jaggar t-shirt." or, from a guitar standpoint, "If you buy this $3000 dollar amp, you get a free pair of strings signed by Paul McCartney."

Just strikes me as weird. Might be just me, though...

Nope. I completely agree. Like Nic said, it's a mmm... sorta clever marketing ploy, I guess. I mean, it's unique. But yeah, it is Bizzaro world.

E, I am right with you on this one.

[telecaster90]

Guys, Slash didn't sell out. They had John Mayer playin a First Act on a different VW commercial. They had some other guy I recognized but wasn't able to place playing one.

[urklvt]

Originally Posted by The Dark Wolf

Ok, here's one reason -

1. He helped pave the way for real rock and hard hitting music in a time when it ws ONLY about image. You're too young to know, but when GNR came on the scene, what breath of fresh air they were in a time dominated by formulaic hair bands and shitty pop.

That's no reason to respect someone even if it were true, and it isn't. At best, a kind 'thank you, Slash' would suffice, not awe, respect, and reverence.

Besides, Slash IS an image, and there has never been a time in the history of commercial music when the industry was not completely dominated by formulaic music and shitty pop. If you want real rock and hard hitting music you still have to look for it for yourself today, just like you did yesterday.

The road to rock was paved long before Slash ever picked up a guitar otherwise he never would have picked it up in the first place.

Ritchie Fucking Blackmore.

[Popsyche]

Originally Posted by urklvt

That's no reason to respect someone even if it were true, and it isn't. At best, a kind 'thank you, Slash' would suffice, not awe, respect, and reverence.

Besides, Slash IS an image, and there has never been a time in the history of commercial music when the industry was not completely dominated by formulaic music and shitty pop. If you want real rock and hard hitting music you still have to look for it for yourself today, just like you did yesterday.

The road to rock was paved long before Slash ever picked up a guitar otherwise he never would have picked it up in the first place.

Ritchie Fucking Blackmore.

The "Slash" character is mainly a left-over from the GnR image driven rock of that time. The guy himself, is supposed to be a really down to earth approachable fellow, as I have friends that are friends with him. It wouldn't surprise me that he did this because he thought it was fun.

Also, VDub has a history of teaming up with an unrelated manufacturer for promos. They released a Trek edition here that came with a specially painted bicycle, and a K-2 version with skis. I agree that this is inventive advertising. Those guitars don't cost shit for them, and these ads possibly are the largest media presentation for First Act ever. Pretty smart all around! Let's face it, the ad campaign was pretty successful if we're discussing VDubs here on a guitar and debauchery forum!

[urklvt]

guitar and debauchery...

Hell yeah!

True, it is good advertising, and you can't really say Slash is selling out at all. His image is being used to sell cars to a particular target audience, which, by the way, is not us. It's being marketed to people who think it would be cool to have any electric guitar come in the package deal. We're the kind of buyers who look at financing cars and decide what kind of 7 string guitar we will buy with the cash back we'll get from the dealership. His image is a product anyway. It is not the man himself. Hell, if I weren't Fat Bastard's retarded Irish cousin, I'd let them use my likeness to sell whatever they want, if, of course, I got paid for it! I'm sure he's cool as a person. He can't stand Axl Rose, so he must be cool!

My only issue was that I was sort of off-topically agreeing with Naren that I see no need to respect the guy any more than I respect anyone else (which doesn't say much). I'm not equifax. I'm not in the business of giving anyone credit, whether they deserve it or not! hehe

[Popsyche]

Originally Posted by urklvt

guitar and debauchery...

Hell yeah!

My only issue was that I was sort of off-topically agreeing with Naren that I see no need to respect the guy any more than I respect anyone else (which doesn't say much). I'm not equifax. I'm not in the business of giving anyone credit, whether they deserve it or not! hehe

Most agreed. I'm not a fan of his music, and I remember Asshole Rose's last trip to Philly, when he canceled a sold-out concert, to watch the Lakers on TV. He left Buckethead and Brain high and dry on that one! A firing squad is too good for Asshole rose!

[urklvt]

I call first shot!!!!

[Naren]

Originally Posted by urklvt

My only issue was that I was sort of off-topically agreeing with Naren that I see no need to respect the guy any more than I respect anyone else (which doesn't say much). I'm not equifax. I'm not in the business of giving anyone credit, whether they deserve it or not! hehe

And thanks for that. I thought you made some very good points. I disagreed with everything my dear pal Bob said, but since I'm only 23, he might pull out that card.

Good points.