Ultramarines: A WH40k Movie.

[Daemoniac]

I think the issue with making movies is that it's really hard to separate all the different elements of story, every race has a huge history with every other race and they're all really interwoven, so it would be hard to have a movie that does justice to the necron story without incorporating the beginning of the eldar, which would then have to include Dark Eldar and Chaos Space Marines (Slaanesh ) and Daemons, which would then have to go back to the beginning with the Horus Heresy

I really do hope this movie proves my fears to be wrong, but i don't know...

[Chiba666]

I ahve a feeling it will be Chaos or Oaks.

Had they have some nice shots of a few titans in it, decimaing the battlefiled, that would be cool.

[Murmel]

I really hope that they don't have Tyranids in the movie. It COULD be done right, but if done wrong we're just gonna have another ....ing Starship Troopers. Except it would most likely be way more awesome.

[Daemoniac]

Starship Troopers but with Space Marines... It's funny though, because honestly I think Tyranids would fit with the Ultramarines a hell of a lot better than any other race, and they are one of the only races that don't have some horribly convoluted history with another race.

I hope they don't put Chaos in... Ultramarines just don't have the history with them compared to a lot of other space marine chapters (Imperial Fists, Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Grey Knights obviously ) and to me it would seem grossly inappropriate.

[BigBaldIan]

Originally Posted by Demoniac

Starship Troopers but with Space Marines... It's funny though, because honestly I think Tyranids would fit with the Ultramarines a hell of a lot better than any other race, and they are one of the only races that don't have some horribly convoluted history with another race.

I hope they don't put Chaos in... Ultramarines just don't have the history with them compared to a lot of other space marine chapters (Imperial Fists, Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Grey Knights obviously ) and to me it would seem grossly inappropriate.

Agreed. 40k has decades worth of backstory and fluff, if you don't want to go into a Tolkien'esque 12 hour three movie epic, you need to narrow the focus somewhat.

[Chiba666]

Having picked up the Space Wolves Codex, I am impressed the background is very good, the illustration as always is top notch, even though there are some very old pieces there, i sure remember them from the late 80s when I first started reading White Dwarf.

Can't wait to pick up ome more

[ZeroSignal]

Right, they REALLY ....ed this one up. I mean royally. See for yourself:


There is no excuse for a film with the budget of £5m to have graphics that awful. For instance. Look at this small project:
http://destrega85.wordpress.com/

Originally Posted by Demoniac

I hope they don't put Chaos in... Ultramarines just don't have the history with them compared to a lot of other space marine chapters (Imperial Fists, Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Grey Knights obviously ) and to me it would seem grossly inappropriate.

*COUGHWordBearersCOUGH*

[Daemoniac]

WHY do they ....ing insist on continually butchering the 40k Franchise

EDIT 2: I stand corrected about the CSM and Ultramarines

EDIT: See now THIS is what it ....ing should look like. Great proportions and everything:


EDIT 3: So perhaps his arms are a bit long, he still captured the look and feel of the character infinitely better than the actual movie has

[Randy]

I don't think it looks like a total abomination but the graphics definitely looks a little more like Starship Troopers: Roughnecks than it does, say, Beowulf.

[ZeroSignal]

Originally Posted by Randy

I don't think it looks like a total abomination but the graphics definitely looks a little more like Starship Troopers: Roughnecks than it does, say, Beowulf.

Agreed. But what irritates me more than the graphics (or lack thereof) is how retarded the helmets look.

THIS is how a battle-brother's helmet should look:


Here's hoping that with post production the graphics will improve. I'd even be happy if they put piles of smoke over everything to make it a little hazy and less noticeable.

[Randy]

Yeah, I'm seeing the helmets now. That along with the lack of ambient textures/particles like smoke and dust, etc. make it look a little campy.

[Daemoniac]

The trailer isn't "bad" (the acting anyway, and John Hurt is ....ing PERFECT), but .... me the animation and graphics are disgusting, and the whole "look" is just so, so very comical and cartoonish

[ZeroSignal]

New trailer!

Exclusive: First Look At Ultramarines

Beware, you will have sound problems if you watch it full screen.

What do you think now?

[Ibanezsam4]

other than it still looking really cheap, im finding that the set pieces look very boring.. like those desert shots are very plain looking, same goes for the inside of the halls they were in. its like there's zero thought going into details. i dont know much about warhammer, but i see its potential to be an excellent feature film.. but it certainly wouldn't convince an uninitiated viewer like me to watch it just because it looks so cheap

[ZeroSignal]

I'm actually liking the graphics when you put the resolution up to 780p. Also, I was pausing it every now and then just to check out the little flashes of stuff going past and it looks quite promising. The graphics don't look bad at all so I'm going to hold out hope for this when it's release in November.

[Daemoniac]

Yuck.

Seriously, that is just ....ing atrocious.

EDIT: ....ing hell, that honestly looks about a decade out of date...
EDIT 2: Sweet ....ing jesus, honestly, that is just embarrassing to watch. The sheer laziness when it comes to the [crap] movement, the [complete lack of] textures on the models, the bland, jagged armour, and the shit scenery is just mind-boggling to me. The game looks better done than this.

[ZeroSignal]

Originally Posted by Demoniac

Yuck.

Seriously, that is just ....ing atrocious.

EDIT: ....ing hell, that honestly looks about a decade out of date...
EDIT 2: Sweet ....ing jesus, honestly, that is just embarrassing to watch. The sheer laziness when it comes to the [crap] movement, the [complete lack of] textures on the models, the bland, jagged armour, and the shit scenery is just mind-boggling to me. The game looks better done than this.

Actually, the detail when you pause it at 720p on full screen is pretty good. The textures perfectly acceptable. The graphics are no where near as bad as they seemed with the last shitty trailer. The movements do seem quite clunky here and there, though.

You really need to pause it at high detail on full screen to be able to really see the detail. Even the detail on the walls of the shrine as one of the marines checks his flamer's pilot light is really nice.

[Daemoniac]

I've got it on a 24" monitor and honestly, I just cannot find any excuse for that trailer.

Odds are it's me being picky as much as anything, but in this day and age, why shouldn't I be? So far the game is looking like it will be infinitely better than this, which is a really sad thing.

Still, we'll see when it gets released.

[Daemoniac]

Shit, you know what it is as much as anything? Their skin. It looks just as unmoving, shiny and rubbery as stuff like Tekken 2 and Starcraft (the old one...).

[ZeroSignal]

I think you're just being excessively picky considering that I hated the original trailer but I see now that it has much greater potential. Besides, I think you're expecting too much from such a small budget that was mostly spent on having an amazing cast, story and facial mapping software. I feel that the graphics are perfectly acceptable.

[Daemoniac]

It's just not doing it for me. If the atrocious graphics are the result of blowing the entire budget on the cast, then I really think they should have rethought that strategy seeing as how this is an animated film.

I'll see it, I've just not got high hopes for it at all.

[ralphy1976]

ok, so on the last previous it looks like the ultra-marines are fighting against some dudes dressed as the ultra marines but different colour..so what's what?

[ZeroSignal]

Honestly the graphics aren't as bad as you make them out to be. The detailing is quite nice. And the proof of the pudding is in the eating, as they say...

Originally Posted by ralphy1976

ok, so on the last previous it looks like the ultra-marines are fighting against some dudes dressed as the ultra marines but different colour..so what's what?

Black Legion - Lexicanum

Also, it's supposed to be Ultramarines, all one word, because it's Greek for "from beyond the sea" rather than marines who are ultra.

[ralphy1976]

ok too much to read, but incredible imagination for the writers!!!

you guys must know all this by heart!!!

[Daemoniac]

Originally Posted by ZeroSignal

Honestly the graphics aren't as bad as you make them out to be. The detailing is quite nice. And the proof of the pudding is in the eating, as they say...

The underlined part I vehemently disagree with. The bold I very much agree with

Like I said, I'll see it, it would be stupid not to, but I'm really not sure how it will turn out.