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Unread 04-12-2012, 07:55 PM   #51
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Look, it's already been covered. Bottom line is you get the receipt.

I've sent more guitars to the States and Europe from here in the UK than I care to remember and I always get the bitching about the shipping cost. In-fact I've lost a few sales on Ebay because I wont take a loss and negotiate costs out of my control. I learned that the hard way when I caved in to an adamant Ebayer who had me send a guitar in a cardboard box and uninsured (what was I thinking) because he was happy to take the risk...and surprise surprise when it got to him damaged he expected me to refund him and cover the costs of getting the guitar there and back

The UK/US exchange rate aint in your favour by a considerable amount (1=$1.60), which begs the question;why would you consider buying a guitar from the UK in the first place if money is your prime concern?

If you've ever sent a guitar abroad you'll know that you have to declare the actual value for the insurance claim and that increases the cost alot, especially on a 2k+ guitar. And secondly, do you want to be able to track the package, have it come to you in days, not weeks and have a verified delivery so it has to be signed over to you rather than just left on your doorstep?

Even if you're happy to take the risk, chances are that the builder wont be.
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Unread 04-13-2012, 05:03 AM   #52
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I'd be willing to wager that if you're in the market for a new custom and you're looking at Daemoness, then money isn't a primary concern.

IMHO, if you have to ask, you can't afford it.

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To back this up for US buyers, I bought a guitar from a forum member in Canada and it came to a total of like $1100 USD with the shipping he figured in. When UPS brought it to my door a week later, the driver asked me to write UPS a check for $85 USD and change to cover the customs fees.

Keep in mind that's all for an instrument insured and declared for about a 1/3 the value of a Daemoness, so I'd say you're looking at at almost $300 USD in customs fees unless Dylan gets creative with his declaration, which I sincerely doubt he'd do...

EDIT: This is NOT including the harmonized sales tax, but the canadian would pay that before it would ship.

Sorry, but this isnt true at all. NAFTA prevents paying customs from USA to Canada, and vice versa, UNLESS you are IMPORTING NEW items from another country to sell as new. Bottom line, cananda and usa do NOT pay customs fees to each other. If you got charged an extra 85, you got ripped off, and in a very bad way.

Also, as a final interjection, USPS provides the lowest cost international shipping in the unites states. If you are shipping abroad, do yourself a favor and get multiple quotes on items, don't just go to the most convenient location to your house.
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The coutnerpoint is, when you get a guitar from Daemoness, blackmachine, Amfisound etc, when they send you the finished pics, the only question you usually ask is "what's the fastest shipping available ?"

LOL!! This is so true :p
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Look, it's already been covered. Bottom line is you get the receipt.

I've sent more guitars to the States and Europe from here in the UK than I care to remember and I always get the bitching about the shipping cost. In-fact I've lost a few sales on Ebay because I wont take a loss and negotiate costs out of my control. I learned that the hard way when I caved in to an adamant Ebayer who had me send a guitar in a cardboard box and uninsured (what was I thinking) because he was happy to take the risk...and surprise surprise when it got to him damaged he expected me to refund him and cover the costs of getting the guitar there and back

The UK/US exchange rate aint in your favour by a considerable amount (1=$1.60), which begs the question;why would you consider buying a guitar from the UK in the first place if money is your prime concern?

If you've ever sent a guitar abroad you'll know that you have to declare the actual value for the insurance claim and that increases the cost alot, especially on a 2k+ guitar. And secondly, do you want to be able to track the package, have it come to you in days, not weeks and have a verified delivery so it has to be signed over to you rather than just left on your doorstep?

Even if you're happy to take the risk, chances are that the builder wont be.
You can get around that by declaring it a gift with commercial value
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Whatever you do, if you get one, get the most ....ing brutal inlay possible.
Dylan's inlays are getting crazier with each build. I can't wait to start drawing up mine.
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You can get around that by declaring it a gift with commercial value
Customs agents aren't retards you know.
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EDIT: This is NOT including the harmonized sales tax, but the canadian would pay that before it would ship.

Sorry, but this isnt true at all. NAFTA prevents paying customs from USA to Canada, and vice versa, UNLESS you are IMPORTING NEW items from another country to sell as new. Bottom line, cananda and usa do NOT pay customs fees to each other. If you got charged an extra 85, you got ripped off, and in a very bad way.
What he probably got charged is a brokerage fee which UPS and FedEx both charge for taking things over the border.

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This is also a felony last time I checked.
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^And if it wasn't it doesn't work anymore.

Even when I specifically ask people not to, a lot of the stuff I get sent from the USA comes market as a gift and they don't give a rat's backside.

Arguing about whether or not the guy should or not aside, here's a breakdown.

Last I heard the base cost for a 6 string daemoness with nothing on it was 1500. IIRC that didn't come with a case, that was about another 130. I think the quote I got for a hard tail 7 with a figured maple top, swamp ash back, maple neck, no inlay, ebony board was in the region of 1850. Can't remember if that was a case.

Let's pretend you're more imaginative than me, so round it up to 2k.

Nobody with give you $1.60 to the pound, that's trade rate, you'll probably get about $1.65. Don't forget shipping too. I fedex'd an amp to Australia for 150 and It arrived in 3 days, I can't imagine it'll cost more than that. Let's say 120, I think that's what I paid last I shipped a guitar.

Total cost GBP 2120
Total cost USA street rates: $3500
Tax will be around 10-20% depending on where you are. Let's say 15. Total USD is $4000.

I gotta be honest, my BRJ order's not much less than that, and you may even get a discount. That's pretty good value to me, but I'm british and everything costs that much here. Except Daemoness which we get a lil cheaper

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Yeah the shipping is like 80$ shipping fees, the rest is insurance. It's something like 10% of the item if I'm not mistaken? Not to mention that they do their work on a lot smaller of a scale with very very detailed artwork on the instruments (generally) that's their specialty; to spend less time on a guitar costing less would clog them up for what their true talent lies (both luthiers and artists), thus it makes sense to charge more for what you would consider a "stock" guitar.
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Anyone know how much this beauty is/was?


It's literally my dream guitar and at some point down the road I'd love to have Daemoness make it for me (probably not for 10 years but still lol).

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Every time I see that inlay!

I will own that guitar (or one like it made by Dylan) one day.

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