2 new builds!

scherzo1928 · 03-22-2012, 06:20 PM

Alright, now that I'm healthy again, I'm back into building guitars. I'll be making 2 "sister" builds. Same shape, but completely different in every other way.

First off... the wood. You already know this ones:

Bastogne walnut top, and birdseye maple board.

Next (and I just got this delivered today) Is a shitload of granadillo (Platymiscium yucatanum)!

The 2 long pieces will be used for 2 necks. 1 for this build as a 5 piece, and the other for a future build... maybe as a 1 piece neck. The other 2 pieces are a bookmatched top for one of the 2 builds.

more granadillo pics!

Check that figure out!

For those of you who don't know. Granadillo is a retardedly hard and dense wood. It's also incredibly stable, and has the most beautiful taptone I've heard in my life. I've been hunting these kind of boards for almoast a year now, and I think it's really going to pay off.

Anywho... I've only done work on the walnut axe so far, and I'm already far into the build, so here come a ton of pics of that build... As always, everything was cut by hand, so I show a lot of pics of boards being cut to largen my epeen.

Queue the br00talz!

Start off by cutting a huge board to make neck laminates!

Cut off the headstock part for a scarf joint.

Since I don't want to waste ANY wood, I cut the headstock in half... like so:

And then sliced the other part into 6 strips for the laminates.

I'll be able to make 2 necks out of that board alone.

I took 3 of them, and put them together with some flamed maple leftovers...

Glueueued them together!

Planed it down.

Then, I cut the walnut top, because I needed offcuts for the headstock.

Glued offcuts onto the headstock piece thing.

ERECTED the superjig!

Machined and mated both surfaces at 15°

And glued them together.

As you can see, I used 2 nails and some tape to keep the parts from creeping under preassure.
And it came out like this:

To be Continued...

scherzo1928 · 03-22-2012, 06:24 PM

I then cut the general shape out of some 2" 1 piece mahogany.

Glued the top.

came out alright... joint could have been a tad better I guess.

Made mah template... which is not yet done btw.

Traced the contour on the body...

Aaaand, I've started getting closer to the line with some sanding drums... That's where I'm at right now.

Tomorrow I'll route the shape with a template and a 2" bit... and I f I don't lose fingers in the process, I'll reupdate tomorrow.

I also just realized I didn't post specs for the builds... I'll do that after school today.

ASoC · 03-22-2012, 06:32 PM

Theres a new scherzo build? Theres two? AWWWWW YEAHHH

I can't wait to see how these turn out, I'm in for the updates

TimSE · 03-22-2012, 06:41 PM

EXCELLENT NEWS! Well chuffed for you man

going to keep an eye on this thread!

Fiction · 03-22-2012, 06:41 PM

technomancer · 03-22-2012, 06:57 PM

Some nice walnut there

JamesM · 03-22-2012, 07:06 PM

Miss you buddy.

BlackMastodon · 03-22-2012, 07:47 PM

Several things here:
1) Gojira: .... yes

2) You're gonna be done your like, 4th or 5th build before I finish my first

(this should be a sign for me to get off my ass...)
3) You erected more than just the super jig...

scherzo1928 · 03-22-2012, 10:45 PM

Ok, here are the specs as promised.

#1
Bastogne walnut top
1 piece mahogany body
5 piece mahogany/flamed maple neck (scarf jointed and set)
birdseye maple fingerboard bound in flamed koa
22 6100 evo frets
648mm scale (pretty much 25.5")
hipshot bridge (fixed) and locking tuners.
P-90 bridge pickup (yet to decide for a particular one) no neck pickup
tiiiny control cavity with just a volume pot.

I might do binding on the body... I'll decide on that these next few days.

#2
Granadillo top with a tiiiny bit of sapwood showing
1 piece mahogany body chambered like a mofo.
5 piece granadillo/flamed maple neck (scarf jointed and set.)
either an ebony or birdseye maple board... still to decide and order.
22 6100 frets
648mm scale
hipshot tremolo (might decide for another fixed...) and locking tuners
tonezone/true velvet/air norton combo.
5 way blade switch, volume, tone.

So yeah. As I said... same shape, but completely different in every other single aspect. And I can't decide on which one I want to play more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASoC

Theres a new scherzo build? Theres two? AWWWWW YEAHHH

I can't wait to see how these turn out, I'm in for the updates

I'll try and update soon, but I'm just super busy lately.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimSE

EXCELLENT NEWS! Well chuffed for you man

going to keep an eye on this thread!

2 eyes!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiction

Quote:

Originally Posted by technomancer

Some nice walnut there

Believe it or not, I'm waaay more stoked about the granadillo. I just can't understand why it isn't used a lot more.... Well, it's used a lot in paracho, and every guitar I've played there with granadillo sides or fingerboards blew me away. I'm sure it will turn out to be the best neckwood I've tried so far.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Armada

Miss you buddy.

saaaaame.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackMastodon

Several things here:
1) Gojira: .... yes

2) You're gonna be done your like, 4th or 5th build before I finish my first

(this should be a sign for me to get off my ass...)
3) You erected more than just the super jig...

1. .... YESS
2. I've been working nonstop this past 2 weeks because I suspect I wont have much free time next period or whatever the hell you call it... can't find the word right now.
3. oh yeah. I know.

HighPotency · 03-22-2012, 11:13 PM

These sound awesome! I've lurked in your threads before but I don't know if I've ever commented.

What's the angle for your headstock? I used an 8.5 degree angle for mine and I realized that the top of the joint (the part that touches the fretboard) will be ~4.5" long... I think that it will end somewhere between the 3rd and 4th frets which seems like I made the angle too small.

scherzo1928 · 03-22-2012, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighPotency

These sound awesome! I've lurked in your threads before but I don't know if I've ever commented.

What's the angle for your headstock? I used an 8.5 degree angle for mine and I realized that the top of the joint (the part that touches the fretboard) will be ~4.5" long... I think that it will end somewhere between the 3rd and 4th frets which seems like I made the angle too small.

Yeah, that could happen with small angles. I used 15° though, and so far it looks alright.

adrock · 03-22-2012, 11:22 PM

good to see more projects from ya buddy

guitarbuilder93 · 03-23-2012, 12:04 AM

Here we go again!

You and those aluminum jigs do some awesome work

Sibling builds for you too? A toast, good sir!

Munch · 03-23-2012, 02:45 AM

That looks awesome! And the superjig looks sweet (and super). What does it do?

BDMCCR · 03-23-2012, 04:22 AM

finally!! looking forward to the sisters dude!!

Goatchrist · 03-23-2012, 04:23 AM

I'm excited! Bodyshape looks awesome!

sk3ks1s · 03-23-2012, 06:35 AM

Glad to hear you're back to building again.
I look forward to regularly posted updates.

vansinn · 03-23-2012, 08:14 AM

Oh no, not now! I'm supposed to be outdoors skating and hurting myself on the concrete, not hanging over yet another of your cool builds..

Sexy woods

Good to hear you're well again; you've been missed

scherzo1928 · 03-24-2012, 12:04 AM

Glad to report I still have 10 fingers... as always this part stressed the .... out of me.

3 Weeks after day one it finally has some sort of guitar shape! yaay!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munch

That looks awesome! And the superjig looks sweet (and super). What does it do?

The superjig, amongst other things is super. period.

Well, I use aluminum profiles for pretty much everything, to compensate my lack of tools, and lack of ability with those tools anyways. I use it to plane surfaces, to plane them at an angle, like this:

Or to drill where my drillpress can't reach...

Quote:

Originally Posted by sk3ks1s

Glad to hear you're back to building again.
I look forward to regularly posted updates.

. When will we see another project from you?

Quote:

Originally Posted by vansinn

Oh no, not now! I'm supposed to be outdoors skating and hurting myself on the concrete, not hanging over yet another of your cool builds..

Sexy woods

Good to hear you're well again; you've been missed

Not going to lie. It was rough, but I'm doing pretty well now. And being able to build some axes makes me feel even better.

Rojne · 03-24-2012, 03:37 PM

awh man.. dawg.. it's to much.. 2 builds.. come on..

Empryrean · 03-24-2012, 04:11 PM

Christ! Scherzo, slow down buddy

but really, don't

scherzo1928 · 03-27-2012, 04:49 PM

Cut ze fingerboard. 22 frets, and 648mm scale.

also cut the koa binding strips, and resawed to the propper depth with a depthstop... and checked the deepness with that nifty little stewmac thinger.

Time to clue the binding!

Used regular woodworking glue. Kept it in place with a shitload of masking tape.

Decided to play it safe, so I also clamped it. Didn't use too much preassure thuogh. and the weights on top are there just to prevent the profiles from turning.

Deviced a new truss rod routing system. Continuing my tradition, I decided to go for total overkill.

Oh, if you can, GO BUY ONE OF THESE GAUGES. so damn practical it's not even funny.

Results!

I then trimmed all the binding, and made a recess for the nut.

Then glued the fingerboard to the neck!

What a mess.

(and yeah, the piece of paper might or might not have the beginings of my next build... a nice little ukulele for a pretty little friend of mine)

AAAAnyhow, today was routertable day, so I managed to do all of this!

That's the same headstock design I used on my redwood baritone, but I added a little meat to it. Just made it thicker, to have more material around the tuners, since I placed them closer to the edge on the other one.

Oh yeah.

JamesM · 03-28-2012, 09:48 AM

See avatar for how this makes me feel.

tommychains · 03-28-2012, 11:28 AM

love it man! I've thought about making a triplet set of my design. all the same though.

Thrashmanzac · 03-28-2012, 11:34 AM

god i love your builds man. these are looking amazing already!

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03-22-2012, 06:32 PM	#3
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03-22-2012, 06:41 PM	#4
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03-22-2012, 06:41 PM	#5
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03-22-2012, 06:57 PM	#6
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03-22-2012, 06:20 PM	#1
scherzo1928 has wood for you Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mexico City Posts: 4,691 Thanked: 33 $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 0 reviews	2 new builds! Alright, now that I'm healthy again, I'm back into building guitars. I'll be making 2 "sister" builds. Same shape, but completely different in every other way. First off... the wood. You already know this ones: Bastogne walnut top, and birdseye maple board. Next (and I just got this delivered today) Is a shitload of granadillo (Platymiscium yucatanum)! The 2 long pieces will be used for 2 necks. 1 for this build as a 5 piece, and the other for a future build... maybe as a 1 piece neck. The other 2 pieces are a bookmatched top for one of the 2 builds. more granadillo pics! Check that figure out! For those of you who don't know. Granadillo is a retardedly hard and dense wood. It's also incredibly stable, and has the most beautiful taptone I've heard in my life. I've been hunting these kind of boards for almoast a year now, and I think it's really going to pay off. Anywho... I've only done work on the walnut axe so far, and I'm already far into the build, so here come a ton of pics of that build... As always, everything was cut by hand, so I show a lot of pics of boards being cut to largen my epeen. Queue the br00talz! Start off by cutting a huge board to make neck laminates! Cut off the headstock part for a scarf joint. Since I don't want to waste ANY wood, I cut the headstock in half... like so: And then sliced the other part into 6 strips for the laminates. I'll be able to make 2 necks out of that board alone. I took 3 of them, and put them together with some flamed maple leftovers... Glueueued them together! Planed it down. Then, I cut the walnut top, because I needed offcuts for the headstock. Glued offcuts onto the headstock piece thing. ERECTED the superjig! Machined and mated both surfaces at 15° And glued them together. As you can see, I used 2 nails and some tape to keep the parts from creeping under preassure. And it came out like this: To be Continued... andrx and NickS like this. Is this... guitar?

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03-22-2012, 06:24 PM	#2
scherzo1928 has wood for you Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mexico City Posts: 4,691 Thanked: 33 $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I then cut the general shape out of some 2" 1 piece mahogany. Glued the top. came out alright... joint could have been a tad better I guess. Made mah template... which is not yet done btw. Traced the contour on the body... Aaaand, I've started getting closer to the line with some sanding drums... That's where I'm at right now. Tomorrow I'll route the shape with a template and a 2" bit... and I f I don't lose fingers in the process, I'll reupdate tomorrow. I also just realized I didn't post specs for the builds... I'll do that after school today. anthonyferguson, Munch, Fiction and 1 others like this. Is this... guitar?

03-22-2012, 07:06 PM	#7
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03-22-2012, 07:47 PM	#8
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03-22-2012, 11:13 PM	#10
HighPotency SS.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 366 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	These sound awesome! I've lurked in your threads before but I don't know if I've ever commented. What's the angle for your headstock? I used an 8.5 degree angle for mine and I realized that the top of the joint (the part that touches the fretboard) will be ~4.5" long... I think that it will end somewhere between the 3rd and 4th frets which seems like I made the angle too small.

03-22-2012, 11:22 PM	#12
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03-23-2012, 12:04 AM	#13
guitarbuilder93 Bad Day... Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Shoug! WA Posts: 284 Thanked: 6 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Here we go again! You and those aluminum jigs do some awesome work Sibling builds for you too? A toast, good sir! scherzo1928 likes this.

03-23-2012, 02:45 AM	#14
Munch Luthier Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 122 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That looks awesome! And the superjig looks sweet (and super). What does it do?

03-23-2012, 04:22 AM	#15
BDMCCR SS.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Ruhrpott, NRW / Germany Posts: 101 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	finally!! looking forward to the sisters dude!!

03-23-2012, 04:23 AM	#16
Goatchrist Jebus Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Baden, CH Posts: 1,640 Thanked: 19 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm excited! Bodyshape looks awesome! You must unlearn what you have learned.

03-23-2012, 06:35 AM	#17
sk3ks1s Djeff Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: St. John's, NL Posts: 720 Thanked: 10 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Glad to hear you're back to building again. I look forward to regularly posted updates. scherzo1928 likes this.

03-23-2012, 08:14 AM	#18
vansinn such a shredneck.. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cph, dk Posts: 1,353 Thanked: 17 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Oh no, not now! I'm supposed to be outdoors skating and hurting myself on the concrete, not hanging over yet another of your cool builds.. Sexy woods Good to hear you're well again; you've been missed scherzo1928 likes this. van Sinn.. plays progressive metal, jazz/rock fusion and Hindu-derived ambiance says, stop second guessing the past, keep pushing, or risk getting left behind opposes any kind of mind control, has no tv - but has a fully functional pineal gland

03-24-2012, 03:37 PM	#20
Rojne Growing my hair.. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Deep woods, Sweden Posts: 816 Thanked: 6 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	awh man.. dawg.. it's to much.. 2 builds.. come on.. yeah

03-24-2012, 04:11 PM	#21
Empryrean Haahh!? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Merced, CA Posts: 4,063 Thanked: 54 Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Christ! Scherzo, slow down buddy but really, don't scherzo1928 likes this. [ry_z] 4:17 am: You looked tiredness in the face, flexed, and canceled it.

03-27-2012, 04:49 PM	#22
scherzo1928 has wood for you Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mexico City Posts: 4,691 Thanked: 33 $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $scherzo1928 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Cut ze fingerboard. 22 frets, and 648mm scale. also cut the koa binding strips, and resawed to the propper depth with a depthstop... and checked the deepness with that nifty little stewmac thinger. Time to clue the binding! Used regular woodworking glue. Kept it in place with a shitload of masking tape. Decided to play it safe, so I also clamped it. Didn't use too much preassure thuogh. and the weights on top are there just to prevent the profiles from turning. Deviced a new truss rod routing system. Continuing my tradition, I decided to go for total overkill. Oh, if you can, GO BUY ONE OF THESE GAUGES. so damn practical it's not even funny. Results! I then trimmed all the binding, and made a recess for the nut. Then glued the fingerboard to the neck! What a mess. (and yeah, the piece of paper might or might not have the beginings of my next build... a nice little ukulele for a pretty little friend of mine) AAAAnyhow, today was routertable day, so I managed to do all of this! That's the same headstock design I used on my redwood baritone, but I added a little meat to it. Just made it thicker, to have more material around the tuners, since I placed them closer to the edge on the other one. Oh yeah. Empryrean, BlackMastodon and Aevolve like this. Is this... guitar?

03-28-2012, 09:48 AM	#23
JamesM The Armada Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 6,929 Thanked: 86 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	See avatar for how this makes me feel. OrsusMetal, scherzo1928, BlackMastodon and 3 others like this. Cloudyhead. Facebook//Twitter//Bandcamp Watch:1,2,3,4,5 Debut Album, Abstraction out now!

03-28-2012, 11:28 AM	#24
tommychains SS.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Stony Point, NY Posts: 154 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	love it man! I've thought about making a triplet set of my design. all the same though.

03-28-2012, 11:34 AM	#25
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