Baritone V Build

AndrewG716 · 01-06-2012, 11:09 AM

Whats up guys? Here is my second build.

Specs:
Maple neckthrough w/ maple fretboard
Basswood wings
27.5 in scale
27 frets
6 string
POS (pessimistic) or upgradable (optimistic) hardware and pickups

PICS:

Mock up

This is definitely going to be interesting since I have no experience working with necks or fretting. The idea here was to use cheap materials for practice though, so if it turns out a little sub-par, its not a huge deal. I don't think it will be a problem, since between some practice on scrap and all the info on the internet I should be able to do just fine.

Also, clamping triangles was interesting.

Berserker · 01-06-2012, 02:01 PM

Looking good, I'll be keeping an eye on this one!

Goatchrist · 01-06-2012, 02:14 PM

really lookinf forward to see it finished!

Keep it up!

Vostre Roy · 01-09-2012, 07:23 AM

Sweet, another baritone build. I'll be keeping an eye on this!

demonx · 01-09-2012, 05:18 PM

As you now know you could have saved a buttload of work by cutting the wings afterwards!

I made this V out of off cuts from another V I'd made a couple years ago, you can see how I got around the problem you encountered by cutting clamping points into the edge before doing the profile cut. Another way to stop wood from slipping is to use a couple of dowel locating pins in an area you know won't be routed or carved later on.

Otherwise, so far so good! I hope you don't regret not having a neck angle after it's finished.

BlackMastodon · 01-09-2012, 07:57 PM

I don't think the lack of a neck angle should be a problem. Just get a regular fixed bridge, or recess it if you want a TOM. Either way this is looking good so far, happy building!

AndrewG716 · 01-09-2012, 10:40 PM

Neck angle shouldn't be a problem with the fixed bridge that I have. And clamping the triangles wasn't that bad really. Just took a few minutes to put together some pieces of scrap, and it allowed me to run the sides through a jointer.

Anyhow, I am back at school now, so the only work I'll be doing is figuring out how to make a fretboard. That will be the only update material until March, sorry.

Also, who has cool paint ideas? I was thinking of something white, maybe metallic white. Of course details are an option over top of that.

Ironbird · 01-10-2012, 09:01 PM

Interesting bevels, I must say. A metallic paint would set the entire guitar off nicely, good call on that!

AndrewG716 · 01-22-2012, 05:16 PM

So here is a little update.
I built a fret sawing jig. I'm sure some of you have seen it before as the idea came off the internet.

It utilizes the mystical power of magnets! These little guys are 1/8 in diameter, but man are they strong.

I'll be doing practicing, as well as getting some radiusing equipment, for a while here. My apologies for the lack of interesting material.

AwakenNoMore · 01-22-2012, 06:38 PM

That is a pretty cool fret sawing jig. Nice work!

AndrewG716 · 02-07-2012, 08:32 PM

Here's a little update.

Got some radius blocks

Here is fretwire bender, version 1

Turns out that the spacing was too wide, and the wire deformed elastically. So we went on to version two.

Great success! except I need more exact tools to achieve more exact radii. There is a good amount of guess and check here. Those are just washer sandwiches btw, no fancy bearings or anything here.

AndrewG716 · 10-07-2012, 12:23 PM

Sooo...

Eight months since the last update. Really sorry about that.

Anyway, construction is just about done. Just need to do the fretting.

(This pic won't rotate for some reason, sorry)

As you can see, fretboard is maple with figuring and some kind of crazy grain. I really dig the whacky look it has.

Control cavity is just a cutout for one of those strat style recessed jack things with a hole for a volume pot on the other side.

Only problem I've encountered thus far is that when I went to trim down the end of the fretboard, I wasn't careful about the grain direction and got a little splintering action, resulting in the fretboard being slightly too narrow. The strings will probably be on the fret ends at the highest frets, but I guess I'll just have to live with that.

More updates soon as I do the frets and try out finishes.

Also, I'm thinking about putting in a D-Activator. Comments, other suggestions? It will be tuned to A or B.

JosephAOI · 10-07-2012, 01:47 PM

Looks awesome, dude! A D-Activator would work perfectly I think although it may be a little bright.

DEFINITELY go with some kind of metallic finish though. It would look so killer with that shape and those bevels.

AndrewG716 · 10-07-2012, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JosephAOI

Looks awesome, dude! A D-Activator would work perfectly I think although it may be a little bright.

DEFINITELY go with some kind of metallic finish though. It would look so killer with that shape and those bevels.

Yeah I'm gonna do a metallic sparkly white on the body, and natural neck, maybe with a hint of amber. Only thing I am undecided about because I haven't really thought about it is the headstock.

AndrewG716 · 10-13-2012, 01:35 PM

Frets are in!

I'm working on filing edges, leveling, etc. now.

Later on I will be getting the paint, excited to see what that looks like.

Also, I ordered an used D-Activator in black and cream for cheap, and subsequently got a white plastic cover so that everything matches.

P.S. I apologize for my lack of good photography skills and crappy camera. I know the pics are lacking.

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01-06-2012, 11:09 AM	#1
AndrewG716 GearwhoreInTraining Join Date: May 2011 Location: Western NY Posts: 111 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Baritone V Build Whats up guys? Here is my second build. Specs: Maple neckthrough w/ maple fretboard Basswood wings 27.5 in scale 27 frets 6 string POS (pessimistic) or upgradable (optimistic) hardware and pickups PICS: Mock up This is definitely going to be interesting since I have no experience working with necks or fretting. The idea here was to use cheap materials for practice though, so if it turns out a little sub-par, its not a huge deal. I don't think it will be a problem, since between some practice on scrap and all the info on the internet I should be able to do just fine. Also, clamping triangles was interesting. Tom Drinkwater, scherzo1928, astm and 1 others like this.

01-06-2012, 02:14 PM	#3
Goatchrist Jebus Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Baden, CH Posts: 1,640 Thanked: 19 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	really lookinf forward to see it finished! Keep it up! You must unlearn what you have learned.

01-09-2012, 07:23 AM	#4
Vostre Roy Disciple of Djod Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Rouyn, Qc, Canada Posts: 1,234 Thanked: 28 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Sweet, another baritone build. I'll be keeping an eye on this! "Solid-state - A component that has been specifically designed to make a guitar amplifier sound bad. Compared to tubes, these devices can have a very long lifespan, which guarantees that your amplifier will retain it's thin, lifeless, and buzzy sound for a long time to come."

01-09-2012, 05:18 PM	#5
demonx Searls Guitars Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ballarat VIC Australia Posts: 363 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	As you now know you could have saved a buttload of work by cutting the wings afterwards! I made this V out of off cuts from another V I'd made a couple years ago, you can see how I got around the problem you encountered by cutting clamping points into the edge before doing the profile cut. Another way to stop wood from slipping is to use a couple of dowel locating pins in an area you know won't be routed or carved later on. Otherwise, so far so good! I hope you don't regret not having a neck angle after it's finished. http://www.facebook.com/searlsguitars

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01-06-2012, 02:01 PM	#2
Berserker SS.org Regular Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: High Wycombe - UK Posts: 504 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Looking good, I'll be keeping an eye on this one!

01-09-2012, 07:57 PM	#6
BlackMastodon \m/ (ﾟДﾟ) \m/ Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Windsor, ON Posts: 3,165 Thanked: 12 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't think the lack of a neck angle should be a problem. Just get a regular fixed bridge, or recess it if you want a TOM. Either way this is looking good so far, happy building! "Metal is for Vikings; if you're not a Viking, get off the boat." - The Beard "He doesn't even like Metallica, that's how metal he is." - My friend describing my musical tastes to her friends.

01-09-2012, 10:40 PM	#7
AndrewG716 GearwhoreInTraining Join Date: May 2011 Location: Western NY Posts: 111 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Neck angle shouldn't be a problem with the fixed bridge that I have. And clamping the triangles wasn't that bad really. Just took a few minutes to put together some pieces of scrap, and it allowed me to run the sides through a jointer. Anyhow, I am back at school now, so the only work I'll be doing is figuring out how to make a fretboard. That will be the only update material until March, sorry. Also, who has cool paint ideas? I was thinking of something white, maybe metallic white. Of course details are an option over top of that.

01-10-2012, 09:01 PM	#8
Ironbird B.C. Rich Maniac Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: KL, Malaysia Posts: 1,369 Thanked: 6 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Interesting bevels, I must say. A metallic paint would set the entire guitar off nicely, good call on that! Leave no stone unturned until I'm done.

01-22-2012, 05:16 PM	#9
AndrewG716 GearwhoreInTraining Join Date: May 2011 Location: Western NY Posts: 111 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So here is a little update. I built a fret sawing jig. I'm sure some of you have seen it before as the idea came off the internet. It utilizes the mystical power of magnets! These little guys are 1/8 in diameter, but man are they strong. I'll be doing practicing, as well as getting some radiusing equipment, for a while here. My apologies for the lack of interesting material. elderico likes this.

01-22-2012, 06:38 PM	#10
AwakenNoMore Lefty Derp Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 532 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That is a pretty cool fret sawing jig. Nice work! Forever searching for my white whale: An early 00's Schecter A-7 lefty with Floyd Rose . . .

02-07-2012, 08:32 PM	#11
AndrewG716 GearwhoreInTraining Join Date: May 2011 Location: Western NY Posts: 111 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Here's a little update. Got some radius blocks Here is fretwire bender, version 1 Turns out that the spacing was too wide, and the wire deformed elastically. So we went on to version two. Great success! except I need more exact tools to achieve more exact radii. There is a good amount of guess and check here. Those are just washer sandwiches btw, no fancy bearings or anything here.

10-07-2012, 12:23 PM	#12
AndrewG716 GearwhoreInTraining Join Date: May 2011 Location: Western NY Posts: 111 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sooo... Eight months since the last update. Really sorry about that. Anyway, construction is just about done. Just need to do the fretting. (This pic won't rotate for some reason, sorry) As you can see, fretboard is maple with figuring and some kind of crazy grain. I really dig the whacky look it has. Control cavity is just a cutout for one of those strat style recessed jack things with a hole for a volume pot on the other side. Only problem I've encountered thus far is that when I went to trim down the end of the fretboard, I wasn't careful about the grain direction and got a little splintering action, resulting in the fretboard being slightly too narrow. The strings will probably be on the fret ends at the highest frets, but I guess I'll just have to live with that. More updates soon as I do the frets and try out finishes. Also, I'm thinking about putting in a D-Activator. Comments, other suggestions? It will be tuned to A or B.

10-07-2012, 01:47 PM	#13
JosephAOI do u evn djent fggt? Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 1,864 Thanked: 30 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Looks awesome, dude! A D-Activator would work perfectly I think although it may be a little bright. DEFINITELY go with some kind of metallic finish though. It would look so killer with that shape and those bevels. "Your picking hand scares me, Joseph" - My friend Pete "If you can't enjoy one Meshuggah riff looped for three hours straight, you're doing it wrong." -prh "Having technical prowess is like masturbation: it's pretty cool and it might please you, but there is still no emotional connection between you and your hands." - broj15

10-13-2012, 01:35 PM	#15
AndrewG716 GearwhoreInTraining Join Date: May 2011 Location: Western NY Posts: 111 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Frets are in! I'm working on filing edges, leveling, etc. now. Later on I will be getting the paint, excited to see what that looks like. Also, I ordered an used D-Activator in black and cream for cheap, and subsequently got a white plastic cover so that everything matches. P.S. I apologize for my lack of good photography skills and crappy camera. I know the pics are lacking.

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