Pine guitar build

felixbarrell · 02-25-2011, 11:55 AM

im gonna build a guitar made out of pine just to get familiar with some tools and educate myself before i ruin a decent bit of maple or something. i'll be getting the wood tomorrow and start building next week pics soon to come. not sure what body shape to do though and suggestions would be nice and ill get on with the build

Cheers

Felix

darren · 02-25-2011, 11:58 AM

The first Telecasters had bodies made of pine, and apparently they sound pretty awesome.

felixbarrell · 02-25-2011, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by darren

The first Telecasters had bodies made of pine, and apparently they sound pretty awesome.

yerh i heard that and its dead cheap in england

UnderTheSign · 02-25-2011, 01:31 PM

Neal Moser did a pine tele about a year ago, if I remember correctly it's pretty good to work with.

Rook · 02-25-2011, 03:31 PM

It's very crumbly and got a lot of air in it, it comes out slightly honky, lol, a tele's the ideal guitar for pine haha.

felixbarrell · 02-25-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fun111

It's very crumbly and got a lot of air in it, it comes out slightly honky, lol, a tele's the ideal guitar for pine haha.

i might do a wolfgang its kinda like the tele

darren · 02-25-2011, 04:20 PM

European (yellow) pine is apparently much more dense than the North American varieties, so it should work out very nicely.

You're from Norwich? My grandparents used to live near Cromer.

HaMMerHeD · 02-25-2011, 05:26 PM

I'm not sure I'd recommend pine for the neck, but it'll be dandy as a body.

felixbarrell · 02-25-2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by darren

European (yellow) pine is apparently much more dense than the North American varieties, so it should work out very nicely.

You're from Norwich? My grandparents used to live near Cromer.

im very near there and i have a thaxters in my town and i went there today looking for some mahogany or maple but they dont stock any and they have loads of pine i didn't get any because i though i would be able to get some maple or mahogany but its too expensive around here so i'll pop in tomorrow and get some. i won't start my build till monday or tuesday.

felixbarrell · 02-25-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HaMMerHeD

I'm not sure I'd recommend pine for the neck, but it'll be dandy as a body.

i've read up and it's not strong enough for the neck but im gonna try any way to see if it works

Dead Undead · 02-25-2011, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HaMMerHeD

I'm not sure I'd recommend pine for the neck, but it'll be dandy as a body.

Pine wouldn't stay rigid enough without being super thick, even with a truss rod. It wouldn't feel right either. Would kill sustain too.

felixbarrell · 02-26-2011, 07:22 AM

heres the wood

MaKo´s Tethan · 02-26-2011, 08:01 AM

Huf made a sigle cut guitar (ala LP) with pine years ago, he said "was very resonant" pine>low quality basswood (bad cuts on deep low end guitars)

vansinn · 02-26-2011, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by HaMMerHeD
I'm not sure I'd recommend pine for the neck, but it'll be dandy as a body.

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Originally Posted by Dead Undead

Pine wouldn't stay rigid enough without being super thick, even with a truss rod. It wouldn't feel right either. Would kill sustain too.

Reinforce the neck with two carbonfibre rods; no more difficult than routing out the truss canal. Or maybe a three-ply pine/something-else neck.

UnderTheSign · 02-26-2011, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MaKo´s Tethan

Huf made a sigle cut guitar (ala LP) with pine years ago, he said "was very resonant" pine>low quality basswood (bad cuts on deep low end guitars)

What, this one?

teqnick · 02-26-2011, 06:54 PM

That guitar will smell great.

Dead Undead · 02-27-2011, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by vansinn

Reinforce the neck with two carbonfibre rods; no more difficult than routing out the truss canal. Or maybe a three-ply pine/something-else neck.

carbon fibre rods would be a bad idea IMHO. If anything does happen to the neck, you can't adjust them.
But as a 3 piece.... that might actually work.
Still I think a neck made of pine would feel awkward.

felixbarrell · 02-28-2011, 02:29 PM

i gave the first piece of wood the clams

i'll glue the next piece of wood and cut the body shape out tomorrow

airpanos · 03-01-2011, 04:14 AM

I like Pine

in fact i found this article from a pro builder about pine bodies and is pretty interesting.

I chose pine because it's one of the best tone woods in the world. It has the best resonance and the best vibration from the string. Pine is a very close relative to spruce and cedar, which have been used on acoustic musical instruments for thousands of years. This guitar became a point of controversy. It was a shock to people -- they assumed that pine was a junk wood since all the fancy guitars are made of flamed maple, quilted maple, spalted maple, and other exotic hardwoods, most of which do not reproduce the vibration of the string very well because they're hard and heavy.

FretWizard88 · 03-01-2011, 08:14 AM

I might make a guitar out of pine too. I have always wanted to build a guitar, but I was too much of a chicken shit to do it because I didn't want to ruin a nice piece Koa or Maple.

felixbarrell · 03-01-2011, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by airpanos

I like Pine

in fact i found this article from a pro builder about pine bodies and is pretty interesting.

I chose pine because it's one of the best tone woods in the world. It has the best resonance and the best vibration from the string. Pine is a very close relative to spruce and cedar, which have been used on acoustic musical instruments for thousands of years. This guitar became a point of controversy. It was a shock to people -- they assumed that pine was a junk wood since all the fancy guitars are made of flamed maple, quilted maple, spalted maple, and other exotic hardwoods, most of which do not reproduce the vibration of the string very well because they're hard and heavy.

and i got all my wood for £3.30 which is like $5 so i might get some more to make a neck and put a piece of mahogany, walnut or maple in it to keep it strong

felixbarrell · 03-01-2011, 09:51 AM

i'm properly going to make a strat out of the next piece of wood how does that sound?

HaMMerHeD · 03-01-2011, 10:24 AM

Man, plain maple neck blanks are cheap. You can get one from StewMac for £12...granted, shipping would cost like £20, but surely there is a reasonable source for maple neck blanks on the island...

sk3ks1s · 03-01-2011, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by felixbarrell

i gave the first piece of wood the clams

I'd keep an epi pen on hand... I heard pine is allergic to shellfish.

You should call your previous lovers and get them checked for it too...

Frozen or fresh?

... take your pick.

felixbarrell · 03-01-2011, 03:24 PM

todays update
body cutout and sanded

clamped down and about to rout the edges

done routing quite a few mistakes this was my first time routing

all sanded

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02-25-2011, 11:55 AM	#1
felixbarrell ss.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: norwich Posts: 117 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Pine guitar build im gonna build a guitar made out of pine just to get familiar with some tools and educate myself before i ruin a decent bit of maple or something. i'll be getting the wood tomorrow and start building next week pics soon to come. not sure what body shape to do though and suggestions would be nice and ill get on with the build Cheers Felix

02-25-2011, 11:58 AM	#2
darren Decibel Guitars Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Greater Toronto Area, Canada Posts: 11,474 Thanked: 75 Feedback Score: 9 reviews	The first Telecasters had bodies made of pine, and apparently they sound pretty awesome. web \| facebook \| twitter

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Rook Electrifying Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: London Posts: 7,255 Thanked: 107 Feedback Score: 17 reviews	It's very crumbly and got a lot of air in it, it comes out slightly honky, lol, a tele's the ideal guitar for pine haha. Formerly known as Fun111, don't be thrown off by the avatar!!!!!! My Soundcloud My project on Facebook: Rook

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darren Decibel Guitars Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Greater Toronto Area, Canada Posts: 11,474 Thanked: 75 Feedback Score: 9 reviews	European (yellow) pine is apparently much more dense than the North American varieties, so it should work out very nicely. You're from Norwich? My grandparents used to live near Cromer. web \| facebook \| twitter

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UnderTheSign SS.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: West Coast, The Netherlands Posts: 1,416 Thanked: 32 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Neal Moser did a pine tele about a year ago, if I remember correctly it's pretty good to work with.

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HaMMerHeD Bass Player in Exile Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 927 Thanked: 9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm not sure I'd recommend pine for the neck, but it'll be dandy as a body.

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felixbarrell ss.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: norwich Posts: 117 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	heres the wood

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MaKo´s Tethan Guitar Mod. Syndrome Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Patagonia Posts: 2,220 Thanked: 63 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Huf made a sigle cut guitar (ala LP) with pine years ago, he said "was very resonant" pine>low quality basswood (bad cuts on deep low end guitars) Rap metal is always numetal, whereas numetal isnt always rap. Demoniac

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felixbarrell ss.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: norwich Posts: 117 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i gave the first piece of wood the clams i'll glue the next piece of wood and cut the body shape out tomorrow airpanos likes this.

03-01-2011, 04:14 AM	#19
airpanos Let's Rock Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Athens,Hellas Posts: 223 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I like Pinein fact i found this article from a pro builder about pine bodies and is pretty interesting. I chose pine because it's one of the best tone woods in the world. It has the best resonance and the best vibration from the string. Pine is a very close relative to spruce and cedar, which have been used on acoustic musical instruments for thousands of years. This guitar became a point of controversy. It was a shock to people -- they assumed that pine was a junk wood since all the fancy guitars are made of flamed maple, quilted maple, spalted maple, and other exotic hardwoods, most of which do not reproduce the vibration of the string very well because they're hard and heavy. Iron Maiden Tribute http://www.moto.gr/forums/showthread...5&pagenumber=1

03-01-2011, 08:14 AM	#20
FretWizard88 SS.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Franken, WI Posts: 549 Thanked: 34 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I might make a guitar out of pine too. I have always wanted to build a guitar, but I was too much of a chicken shit to do it because I didn't want to ruin a nice piece Koa or Maple.

03-01-2011, 09:51 AM	#22
felixbarrell ss.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: norwich Posts: 117 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i'm properly going to make a strat out of the next piece of wood how does that sound? airpanos likes this.

03-01-2011, 10:24 AM	#23
HaMMerHeD Bass Player in Exile Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 927 Thanked: 9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Man, plain maple neck blanks are cheap. You can get one from StewMac for £12...granted, shipping would cost like £20, but surely there is a reasonable source for maple neck blanks on the island...

03-01-2011, 03:24 PM	#25
felixbarrell ss.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: norwich Posts: 117 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	todays update body cutout and sanded clamped down and about to rout the edges done routing quite a few mistakes this was my first time routing all sanded airpanos likes this.

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