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Unread 11-15-2010, 08:44 PM   #1
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Well might as well

well some of you might have seen my post about a RR mirror pickgaurd. Well its not a jackson...its an epiphone from 1985 I am guessing. Haven't found any info on it really but anyways. I found it on craigslist not to long ago and decided to buy it as the neck was absolutly PERFECT but anyways it is a very abused guitar and I have finally decided to restore/replace/customize this guitar i.e. new tuners new pickups new paint job obviously and I was wondering what you guys would recomend to put on it don't ask about body or neck wood because No one really knows from some people guessing they believe its mahagany but anyways it also (unlike a Jackson RR) has a fender styled tremlo bridge that is original on it its a set neck 24.75" scale there are more picks below the higher quality pics are of someone who has taken care of it the lower quality ones are pics of the one I own (except for my old man in the headstock pic XD) but again what would you guys recomend to put on it?

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Unread 11-15-2010, 08:56 PM   #2
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If it was mine I'd do the following:

1) Replace the stock, cheap plastic nut with a either a GraphTech replacement or Wilkinson 6-Roller Nut. Most tuning issues on non-locking system equipped guitars are from nut binding.

2) Put some quality, non-locking tuners on such as those from Gotoh, Schaller, Hipshot, or Grover. Let the size of the existing holes and your budget guide you there. A set from any four of those companies will be stellar.

3) Replace the existing trem's sustain block with a high quality brass unit. The added mass will improve tone.

4) Replace the saddles on the bridge with some quality GraphTech replacement ones.

5) Replace the wiring harness in it's entirety. For pots go for some quality CTS ones, for caps go with quality Vishay/Sprague, for wire some 22AWG shielded will do well, and for a jack a quality Switchcraft would be suitable.

6) Re-shield the entire guitar, the pickguard, electronics cavity, and pickup cavity with a combination of shielding paint and copper foil. Remember to ground it all.

7) Replace the pickups to taste.

8) Clean the fretboard with some Naphtha, then oil it with some Mineral Oil.

9) Polish the frets with some steel wool, and file down the sides if they're poking out of the side of the fretboard.

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If it was mine I'd do the following:

1) Replace the stock, cheap plastic nut with a either a GraphTech replacement or Wilkinson 6-Roller Nut. Most tuning issues on non-locking system equipped guitars are from nut binding.

2) Put some quality, non-locking tuners on such as those from Gotoh, Schaller, Hipshot, or Grover. Let the size of the existing holes and your budget guide you there. A set from any four of those companies will be stellar.

3) Replace the existing trem's sustain block with a high quality brass unit. The added mass will improve tone.

4) Replace the saddles on the bridge with some quality GraphTech replacement ones.

5) Replace the wiring harness in it's entirety. For pots go for some quality CTS ones, for caps go with quality Vishay/Sprague, for wire some 22AWG shielded will do well, and for a jack a quality Switchcraft would be suitable.

6) Re-shield the entire guitar, the pickguard, electronics cavity, and pickup cavity with a combination of shielding paint and copper foil. Remember to ground it all.

7) Replace the pickups to taste.

8) Clean the fretboard with some Naphtha, then oil it with some Mineral Oil.

9) Polish the frets with some steel wool, and file down the sides if they're poking out of the side of the fretboard.
where could I get these objects?

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thanks this cost more money then expected but i plan onn keeping this guitar for a while haha

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thanks this cost more money then expected but i plan onn keeping this guitar for a while haha
The best thing to do, if you're short on cash, is to do this in stages and over a period of time.

Clean the guitar up, and set it up to your liking. From there, the two things I'd do first that are pretty cheap are replacing the nut and the electronics (minus pickups). It should cost around $30 and you'll notice the guitar will sound and stay in tune better.

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The best thing to do, if you're short on cash, is to do this in stages and over a period of time.

Clean the guitar up, and set it up to your liking. From there, the two things I'd do first that are pretty cheap are replacing the nut and the electronics (minus pickups). It should cost around $30 and you'll notice the guitar will sound and stay in tune better.
thanks again I'll post pics when I am completely down which is probably custom paint job and some inlay stuff done haha

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i would change the nut and tuners. then i would block the trem with wood. the clean and polish frets. anything else would come after these mods and i had played it for a while.
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i would change the nut and tuners. then i would block the trem with wood. the clean and polish frets. anything else would come after these mods and i had played it for a while.
the wood block is uneeded as its non floating plus i like messing with trems a little haha

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plus i like messing with trems a little haha
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I almost forgot some questions
1.me being a newb into exact body wood stuff I know more stuff than alot my age (looking at maybe becoming a luthier) how can you tell what the body wood is because ther is NO info on this guitar at all

2. Is there any way to fix the wings on the v to around normal or is it always gonna have decent sized chunks missing?

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I almost forgot some questions
1.me being a newb into exact body wood stuff I know more stuff than alot my age (looking at maybe becoming a luthier) how can you tell what the body wood is because ther is NO info on this guitar at all

2. Is there any way to fix the wings on the v to around normal or is it always gonna have decent sized chunks missing?
The only way to determine wood 100% is to get it chemical tested. Though, you can always sand away some and look at the grain, which will give you a good idea of what it could be. Though, have you tried e-mailing either Gibson or Epiphone? They may be able to get you some info.

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The only way to determine wood 100% is to get it chemical tested. Though, you can always sand away some and look at the grain, which will give you a good idea of what it could be. Though, have you tried e-mailing either Gibson or Epiphone? They may be able to get you some info.

What do you mean by "fix the wings"? Can you elaborate?
the wings have been abused and I kind of want to get the fin back to original instead of the really chiped wing where its been banged up a lot

and yes the guy I got it from has been emailing gibson and epiphone for almost a year trying to figure out what it is and they have no idea what it is but they do know its authentic and before I got it I looked all the info I could and theres nothing about it out there

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