[Naren]

Originally Posted by JBroll

Dead Greek guys win.

Jeff

That's an awesome quote. I had never heard that before.

[JBroll]

You've heard

Originally Posted by Epicurus

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

though, right?

Jeff

[Zepp88]

That rules.

[budda]

i dunno if i fall into the "religious" category or not.

i used to hate sunday school. i used to look forward to youth group even though it meant getting up early.

i think i've been to church twice in the last year. I believe in God, i believe that there is higher powers and all the other wierd stuff - a handful of odd experiences and whatnot (and last night's conversations about hauntings didnt help at allll).

but i havent been to church recently. i dont really like organized religion. yes i have a bit of a relationship with God, yes i would like to improve it. unfortunately i dont strive to be a better human being, but i do strive to help others. i like to help people help themselves, yet i avoid helping myself.

to quote something i read: "I like God, it's his crazy followers i can't stand". I dunno if organized religion is the way for me, but i do believe in a higher power.

on a side note, i hate humanity. hate it. wierd how that works, and yet im taking social work to learn how to deal with people and help them with their problems.. but i dont plan on being a social worker. i just want to help people.. partially because i dont like facing myself.

as I said, i dont know if i fall under the "religious" category or not.

[Zepp88]

"I have no problem with God, just his fanclub."

And, hauntings are fascinating.

[Jachop]

I was raised an atheist but I believe in something I can't really pin-point. A force that manifests in nature - and in goodness (which I myself have a hard time defining - it's more a feeling than something I can express) of others if you will.

[DevourTheDamned]

just a random though, all of you should at LEAST give the Satanic Bible a read, its really not as bad as people make it out be be. really, its just ignorant people that make it out to be bad. but just a hint, so you might be intrigued, Satanists, dont even believe in a Satan or any other 'higher power'. just pick it up for bout $9 its good stuff.
and ill also recommend a wonderful site called jesusneverexisted.com
it has actual, factual information and real historical facts about the idea of jesus' existance

[Naren]

Originally Posted by DevourTheDamned

just a random though, all of you should at LEAST give the Satanic Bible a read, its really not as bad as people make it out be be. really, its just ignorant people that make it out to be bad. but just a hint, so you might be intrigued, Satanists, dont even believe in a Satan or any other 'higher power'. just pick it up for bout $9 its good stuff.
and ill also recommend a wonderful site called jesusneverexisted.com
it has actual, factual information and real historical facts about the idea of jesus' existance

Point 1: Actually that depends on the kind of Satanists you're talking about. There are different kinds. The traditional Satanists do believe in Satan. The more recent modern version of Satanism does not.

Point 2: Actually there is "proof" of Jesus having lived (Roman records. I believe the Jewish records were destroyed when Jerusalem was burned around 100AD or so. Been a while since I studied about it). However, a man named Jesus having lived around 10 BC-40 AD does not mean he was God's son. Besides, why would it matter to YOU whether he lived or not? If you could be convinced he lived, does that make you believe he was God and convert you to Christianity?

[Metal Ken]

Originally Posted by Naren

Point 2: Actually there is "proof" of Jesus having lived (Roman records. I believe the Jewish records were destroyed when Jerusalem was burned around 100AD or so. Been a while since I studied about it). However, a man named Jesus having lived around 10 BC-40 AD does not mean he was God's son. Besides, why would it matter to YOU whether he lived or not? If you could be convinced he lived, does that make you believe he was God and convert you to Christianity?

Yeah, but from what i recall reading, there's no tax, census, etc. records of it. There's also no records of pontius pilot setting free criminals and no records of herod having soldiers go around and smash babies. There's historians alive at the time and soon after, and none of them make any mention of a jesus, and the one who does, josephus, has a weak account at best. But then again, he was born roughly 4 years after jesus' assumed death date. I always thought it odd that we have accurate records of generally historically insignificant people like the historian josephus and this big huge world turning event of jesus, the only evidence we have is that maybe some dude may have had the name.

[TheHandOfStone]

As much as I would love to feel connected to a higher power, I just don't see it happening with Catholicism like it has for my parents. How dare any religious entity demand complete obedience without offering some sort of tangible proof of its case, especially in a world so full of deception?

I normally dislike conspiracy theories, but this is pretty interesting.

YouTube - Not Just Jesus