[chavhunter]

Yup. Thats right. Played a gig in London last night, the sound guy turned up over an hour late, and when I asked if he was going to mic up the guitar cabinets (a lot of places we've played dont bother) thats the response I got. He wanted:

guitar -> pedals -> DI to desk for front of house -> amp for backline.

Please can someone assure me that this is SO not the way it should be done! I havent spent £x,xxx on high-end gear to have balls-out distortion on stage and clean D.I.d guitar coming out the P.A., and there's no way I'm letting it happen again. From now on either our cabs get mic'd or we dont play, fair enough rule?

[stuh84]

I take it he's never done sound for anyone with distortion, or without a POD?

Whats the point in a clean tone coming out of the PA, if you are using distortion on stage?

I bet he was just a bassist with a vendetta against guitarists

[NegaTiveXero]

We played a place where they didn't have enough mics to mic up the bassist, so he had to play direct.

That's fucking stupid though, I would've told him to fuck off.

[kristallin]

This is why you need a rider. Stipulate everything you need in your rider, have the venue sin off on it when you arrange the gig, and you have the power. Other than that grab yourself a POD for situations like this, then you can at least dial in a decent emergency amp/cab tone for the end of your chain that'll give you a workable sound.

[Regor]

Dude, if he's just in a local band playing out (I dunno ), there's no such thing as a rider for those kinda bands.


Me? That'd be a laughable situation... cuz I don't use ANY pedals on the floor. Try DI'ing a MIDI controller... I dare him!

[chavhunter]

it was a charity gig, so no rider. we didnt even get payed. good to hear that everone else shares m opinion on D.I. for guitar; good for basses but not for guitars when you're using distortion!!

[WarriorOfMetal]

Originally Posted by Regor

Dude, if he's just in a local band playing out (I dunno ), there's no such thing as a rider for those kinda bands.


Me? That'd be a laughable situation... cuz I don't use ANY pedals on the floor. Try DI'ing a MIDI controller... I dare him!

same here

[noodles]

Originally Posted by NegaTiveXero

We played a place where they didn't have enough mics to mic up the bassist, so he had to play direct.

Our bassist generally goes direct. Most bass heads have an XLR out, and it is by far the preferred way to run a bass.

Guitars are a different story. I'd tell him to shove his DI box up his ass, and crank my amp loud enough to be heard in the entire venue. I've got 100 watts, I'm confident I don't need his PA. He can match the drum, bass, and vocal volumes to me. If he refused, then I'd tell him good luck with his show, pack up gear, and go home.

The ONLY reason to DI a standard guitar rig is if you plan on getting a board recording for reamping later. I've I wanted to go direct, I'd bring a fucking POD.

[NegaTiveXero]

Originally Posted by noodles

Our bassist generally goes direct. Most bass heads have an XLR out, and it is by far the preferred way to run a bass.

His bass amp just has a 1/4" speaker out. So, micing sounds better in his case.

[PeteyG]

I'm currently saving for a H&K Redbox Pro for D.I.ing, alot of my favourite bands do it as apposed to mic'ing up, and they always get a pretty lush sound aswell, so I'm gonna go with that.