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Old 07-06-2008, 03:15 PM   #51
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So to gain more strength and less bulk, the best way to do it is in fewer faster reps with more weight?

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That's what I've been told.

Cheers for the info Steve, i'll have to see if i'm doing something wrong since I've been on the same weight for 3 weeks or so. =/

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Why not? Does she thinks it is unsafe? or that is like steroids or something? I find it funny considering China is using up tons of whey

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Old 07-06-2008, 09:28 PM   #54
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So to gain more strength and less bulk, the best way to do it is in fewer faster reps with more weight?
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:42 PM   #55
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That's what I've been told.

Cheers for the info Steve, i'll have to see if i'm doing something wrong since I've been on the same weight for 3 weeks or so. =/
If you're training until failure but not gaining then I would suspect your diet is in question. If you aren't giving your body enough nutrients to repair your muscle fibers, then there's no way for your muscles to grow, right.

This is where supplements like protein/weight gainers/creatine come into play. Like I said before, I don't see how a person of your stature can hope to make gains without supplements unless you can eat thousands of calories every day with adequate protein consumption.

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Science is divided on creatine, there have been studies that have concluded that creatine offers no advantage and it does have side affects. However I have used instant dissolvable creatine with glucose and it may just be a placebo effect but I believe that it gave me a boost during training, that could possibly be explained by the glucose and I find a black coffee with sugar has a similar effect. Creatine will not help with muscle growth, all it claims to do is help you to train harder.

Yes you need lean protein to build muscle, a protein shake post workout is highly recommended but make sure it is a premium protein without fillers. Protein supplements should be used sparingly IMO, I recommend whole foods over supplements. While everything I have read recommends lean protein and I would hesitate to recommend anything else I do not follow this, I hate chicken breasts, I love legs and thighs and the skin, I love fatty meat and eat lots of it, I have regular check ups and never had any negative results from this. I also eat lots of seafood and would recommend that at least half of your protein come from seafood. I eat two eggs a day they are one of the greatest foods we have.

I recommend lots of salad and green vegetables, you can go to town with these due to the high thermic effect (you use as much energy processing them as they provide), I add lots of olive oil to my greens, healthy fats FTW.

I'm not trying to gain weight so I don't eat a lot of grains, I only have one slice of wholemeal bread per day, that's not to say you can't lose weight while eating carbs, it's just the diet I enjoy and makes me feel best but what is good for me will not necessarily be good for someone else a diet need to be tailored to the individual and should be based on food that you enjoy eating, make you feel your best and perform at your optimum. Remember, losing/gaining weight has nothing to do with carbs it has everything to do with calories. Low carb diets just allow you to eat a lot more due to the low calorie content of the foods you are eating.

If you are trying to gain muscle you are going to have to eat carbs, when weight training your caloric requirement is much higher and the amount of food you would have to eat on a low carb diet would be rediculous, even people who are trying to lose weight will have to eat carbs if they are training hard. Eat healthy carbs that are high in fibre and low GI.

I'm not doing any form of training at the moment so my calorie, carb requirement is jack shit. That's right I have lost over 24 lb's and 7% body fat sitting on my arse talking to you guys, the only exercise I have done is walking, but it's not like I have made an effort there either most of it is incidental exercise. All of my weight has been lost through diet. A diet that has included days of eating nothing but junk food. Free days and monitoring total calories FTW but I don't sit down and work anything out I simply estimate my calorie count in my head. The week I was down the Gold Coast I ate nothing but take out for 5 days and still had a small weight loss. You should see what I have planned for my Birthday

I have mentioned that I starting weights again shortly only to build some pec/upper body size, you can be sure I will increase my carb content when I do.
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Steve, I know alot about weight training, health, and nutrition.

But you flat out own in this thread. Rep, and nice work. I agree with pretty much everything you've said, and you've even got a broader, deeper knowledge on this subject than me. (Arnold is one of my heroes. Go figure.)

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Science is divided on creatine, there have been studies that have concluded that creatine offers no advantage and it does have side affects. However I have used instant dissolvable creatine with glucose and it may just be a placebo effect but I believe that it gave me a boost during training, that could possibly be explained by the glucose and I find a black coffee with sugar has a similar effect. Creatine will not help with muscle growth, all it claims to do is help you to train harder.

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I recommend lots of salad and green vegetables, you can go to town with these due to the high thermic effect (you use as much energy processing them as they provide), I add lots of olive oil to my greens, healthy fats FTW.

I'm not trying to gain weight so I don't eat a lot of grains, I only have one slice of wholemeal bread per day, that's not to say you can't lose weight while eating carbs, it's just the diet I enjoy and makes me feel best but what is good for me will not necessarily be good for someone else a diet need to be tailored to the individual and should be based on food that you enjoy eating, make you feel your best and perform at your optimum. Remember, losing/gaining weight has nothing to do with carbs it has everything to do with calories. Low carb diets just allow you to eat a lot more due to the low calorie content of the foods you are eating.

If you are trying to gain muscle you are going to have to eat carbs, when weight training your caloric requirement is much higher and the amount of food you would have to eat on a low carb diet would be rediculous, even people who are trying to lose weight will have to eat carbs if they are training hard. Eat healthy carbs that are high in fibre and low GI.

I'm not doing any form of training at the moment so my calorie, carb requirement is jack shit. That's right I have lost over 24 lb's and 7% body fat sitting on my arse talking to you guys, the only exercise I have done is walking, but it's not like I have made an effort there either most of it is incidental exercise. All of my weight has been lost through diet. A diet that has included days of eating nothing but junk food. Free days and monitoring total calories FTW but I don't sit down and work anything out I simply estimate my calorie count in my head. The week I was down the Gold Coast I ate nothing but take out for 5 days and still had a small weight loss. You should see what I have planned for my Birthday

I have mentioned that I starting weights again shortly only to build some pec/upper body size, you can be sure I will increase my carb content when I do.
You lost weight by sitting on your ass and eating junk food? How is that even possible?
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