[Trespass]

Originally Posted by unconventional

Thanks, we all love to be right don't we? I'm joking. I'm only right to the extent that what I say becomes your truth. This is the major problem in society. People dictating what the truth is. There is no such thing as truth. Only experience that becomes engrained in you as wisdom that you share with others.

What is means to them is up to them entirely until it gets them thinking and they incorporate someone elses ideas in their own life and perhaps it becomes wisdom for them.

My only wish is to get people to think and realize these fucks like Rumsfeld and Monsanto Monsanto ~ Home

are fucking poisoning people in the name of profit. Look at that friendly website. I'll bet you don't know that Corruptsfeld is involved with that. He's the major polluter who does much to pollute your soda and your drinking water with flouride which is a by-product of aluminum. It's also interesting that alzheimers patients have aluminum deposits in their brain. Is there a connection? I don't know, but it makes you think.

Racketeering Charges Filed Against Donald Rumsfeld & Monsanto

I try to do my best to dissasociate myself from this shit as it makes me very upset. What gets to me is the number of people (millions) that still trust these pigs and look at me like I'm the fucking bad guy.

I'm the bad guy? When did that happen?

Wow, Falling Down is such an epic movie (one of like 10 DVDs I own).

I read this thread through, and yeah, I completely agree with everything.

[unconventional]

Dude, falling down is my 2nd all time favorite movie. 1st being Jacobs Ladder.

It's good to see that not everyone is a fucking idiot asleep and stuck inside the matrix without even knowing it.

[Drew]

You raise a lot of good points, but I don't agree with you across the board.

Salt - again, everything in moderation is good for you. The human body needs salt, no doubt, but elevated sodium levels are also not good for the human body and can cause high blood pressure. Cutting salt for the sake of cutting salt is a bad idea, and there's probably a gain (if nothing else, in flavor) from going with something other than Morton's, but shoveling the shit down by the tablespoon is not such a hot idea either.

diet soda - I agree, it's absolute shit. However, it's not that it's "low fat" or anything, but evidently according to a study I read recently it's the artificial sweeteners... The human race has been using natural sweeteners for ages, so we're used to reacting to them. A number of scientists did a study on mice where they fed them a steady supply of soda, and then after a few weeks, gave them one of two treats - a pudding flavored with a natural sweetener, and one with an artificial sweetener. Those who had the natural sweetener scaled back their soda intake to compensate for the added calories, while those with the artificial sweetener did not. It seems that a mouse body (and by implication a human one) is better able to recognize natural sweeteners as being bad for it, and adjust its "cravings" to compensate after a splurge, whereas it is not able to do so with an artificial one. As it's the nature of dieters to occasionally splurge, diet soda doesn't do as much to limit your sugar cravings and you'll actually end up consuming more calories if you're eating a diet heavy in artificial sweeteners. Then again, the only time I drink soft drinks, I have the decency to cut it with a lot of booze.

Also, I STRONGLY question the "if it's not tasty, it's good for you" argument. If it's syrupy or sugary-sweet, then sure, but I for one happen to think fresh fruits and veggies taste great. Homemade bread is way better than the storebought stuff, and that's inarguably way better for you. I drink more water than anything else, booze and coffee included, and I'm not talking bottled or flavored water or anything, but the pure stuff from a tap (Somerville has relatively good drinking water). And as we've discussed ad nauseum elsewhere in this forum, food cooked from scracth using fresh ingredients always tastes better than storebought processed food. I eat a relatively good diet, but I'm not really a health nut - I just like to cook and use almost exclusively fresh ingredients. I cook based on flavor not nutritian, but if you just use the best ingredients you can get you'd be surprised how closely the two can sometimes intertwine.

Points for not ranting against carbs, by the way. I'm half Italian - the Atkins diet is an affront upon my people. If you're not a pasta eater because it comes in a box, I suggest buying one of these. You can get them cheaper than this, but I'm pretty sure this is the make and model I have. The real win isn't that you're eating pasta devoid of preservatives - the real win is it tastes (and has a texture that is) fucking AWESOME.

Aside from that, well, a large part of my social life involves putting poisons into my body, so I should probably keep a low profile here.

[unconventional]

You make some good points Drew and I'm not saying diet soda is the root of my problem. But when I read that it turns into formaldehyde in the body, WTF?

I just have started having panic attacks around the time I switched from apple juice to diet coke. So I'm basically elimating all the shit from my diet to rule that stuff out.

I seem to be extra sensitive to stuff it seems. Now yesterday I had a bad panic attack, in the car while driving my 8yo daughter home from my sister in laws (day care) and I was pissed. Not a good thing to have your heart pounding out of your chest while driving in rush hour with a baby in the car. Normally I would have pulled over and got out, but I defeated it by just getting super angry and repeating "bullshit" over and over in my mind. LOL, whatever works.

If you've never had a panic attack, you probably have no idea what I'm talking about and that's a good thing. Now today I was a tad shaky, got up and did 30 minutes on the exercize bike and went to work a little panicky. Odd thing is at work I bought one of those vitamin waters, the one loaded with B complex. I don't know how good the quality of vitamins are in that water but after drinking some it seems the shakiness went away. So I researched B vitamins and was astounded to learn that people who smoke (me) have a reduced capacity to retain B vitamins. So perhaps I was depleated?

However I have to watch myself as to not go on a witch hunt for what is wrong and focus more on what is right. That's the downfall of most mental type problems, being labeled and then rummaging through the past for answers. Don't go there. Focus on right now is key and not so easy to put into practice.

I agree with you 100% about the bread thing. I've had REAL italian bread with real olive oil and there's nothing like it. Real pasta? Can't imagine it. I'd love to have the luxury of cooking good foods and I sort of disagree with my previous statement that good food tastes bad. You just have to have TIME to make it taste good, which wife and I don't. So for me, I just eat whatever is good for you as long as it's not in a box and I've been helping wife too. I cooked a shitload of good brown rice with a tad of quality olive oil and real butter (kays) and boiled some cabbage and broccoli, carrots and cauliflower. We've been eating that all week + a big pan of chicken breast I cooked with olive oil, marsala wine, some spices and minced garlic. Stuff was amazing.

All of this is not the best with the oil and butter, but it's better than what my wife usually eats which is that mac+cheese shit in a box.

Salt is another story. Again, in moderation yet, but the morts that most people have is GARBAGE. Go to RealSalt: Gourmet Sea Salt Kosher Salt All Natural Salt and you'll see what I mean. They have a mineral analysis on the site of the salt and if you never had real salt, you have no idea what I mean. I mean it's just salt right? How could one salt be different than the usual? Trust me, it is.

Anyhow, I'm not a hard core granola bar earthy crunchy. But I have come to the point in my life where I know what makes me feel good and what makes me feel like shit. Good food = energy, alive, ability to concentrate better and have awesome meditations where my I'm able to literally shut my body off and there's no feeling like it.

Now if I could get off the fucking cigarettes that would be key. Cigarattes do not relax you, the opposite and that's what most people don't realize. Anyhow that's enough out of my big mouth about this. Just keep your eyes open and look at labels, there's a lot of shit in food that you have no idea about and how you'll react to it and I don't think the manafacturer does or cares either.

One final point. What overrides anything that you eat is your consistent mental state. If your in a constant state of worry, that is far worse than anything you could ever eat. Finally, I make no point to be an expert. I base what I know off how I feel and things I've tried. Most of what you read has no bearing whatsoever on you as an individual until you incorporate it into your life.

[WillingWell]

So, how many drugs do you take a day? All kinds included, whether they be vitamin, narcotic, or what have you.

[unconventional]

B complex, quality fish oil 3g or so, serendyn. No vitamins, most food has all the vitamins you need and for the most part you piss them out. B complex is good though for the head.

[Jachop]

A question for unconventional.

How about coffee? Good, bad, both? I barely drink it anymore I'm just curious. I've basically started drinking rooibos and green tea instead (and mostly not the shitty brands). What do you think about that?

[unconventional]

Like Drew said, everything in moderation. I knew of a monk that used to drink coffee. It was part of a strict diet. One cup black per evening. It helps speed up the metabolism.

I can't do coffee at all. The caffine sends me into a panic attack. However this is all in my head right?

Well, the caffine seems to have an adverse reaction to my stomach as well. So I just stay away from the stuff. Caffine free Sanka I do, but you have to ask yourself, is that really coffee? I mean people drink it for the caffine. Whatever. I do a cup in the morning on the way to work and that's about it.

I do a chammille (sp?) tea with black tea after work which is good. I'm tring now desperately to get sugar out of my diet. I use about 5 tsp per coffee and tea. Coupled with all the sugar in drinks and whatnot during the day it gets to be ridiculous.

Sugar is a major contributing factor with anxiety disorder, as well as nicotine. I'll deal with the sugar first. One by one, I'll be back to what I once was. A happy kid that did not need any of this SHIT that we become addicted to.

Green tea is good. A lot of antioxidants and bioflavonoids in it. There is a lot of shit brands out there. I'd try to find a reputable company if buying it. Go where the Chinese go, they know where the good shit is. I recentely discovered a green tea in disolvable powder form called Matcha. Good shit it is. I'm no stranger to a Starbucks Green Tea Latte with Soy milk on the rocks. Of course they put that Melon Surup in it, which is why it tastes good.

There's a chinese lady in here at work. She brings real green tea in, in a baggie. Looks like an ounce of dope

But there's no comparison between what she has and lipton green dead tea. Now I tend to be harsh in my judgements against commercial products. But it's like this. Even though lipton green tea might be dead, I'll take that a million times to one over a dunkin donuts ice coffee loaded with sugar and caffine.

My point is this. Do some research and try to find the quality stuff, whether it be supplements or green tea or food. There's quality stuff around if you look, but it's time and it's work. In order to feel good and be heallthy, it takes a sacrifice and a firm mind. I will drink water and fucking starve before I eat that velveeta bullshit cheese and noddle crap my wife eats sometimes. Fucking cheese is not powder. WTF?

I do firmly believe though, ones mind is far more powerful than the body and the foods we put in it. I'm not saying you can drink gasoline and survive if you believe it, but there is something to be said about the power of beliefs. You all know about the placebo effect. We piss out most of the meds and pills and whatnot we take. Some scientists say that drugs do absolutely nothing save for our belief in what they will do.

Fuck if I know, when use to take oxycontin, I was convinced they made me feel pretty damn good. That was before the oxy craze. I was on them close to a year. $5 each from a woman I knew. She got off the prescription and I stopped. 1 week of hell it was, LOL.

Remember. Every buzz is short lived and comes with some sort of a price. That's what I've learned. I'm at the point where I can't do anything. Pot, beer, nothing but good food and healthy thoughts and exercize and guitar of course

[HighGain510]

Cool post man, I'm going to look into a few of those items (mainly the carrot stuff, I used to love eating carrots but stopped eating them as much because I've been going out instead of cooking ). My girl is staying with me for a few weeks over the summer and we've been cooking every night. Almost forgot that you can have fun cooking and the meals taste so much better (IMO) knowing that you're eating something that is quite a bit healthier.

[Drew]

sorry if I came on a little strong on the diet soda, my roommate's hooked on the shit. She also, strangely enough, has occasional panic attacks. *cue twilight zone theme* However, with her I'm pretty sure it's her personality and not chemicals, though I'm sure the diet soda isn't helping things.

And actually, we do predominantly use normal "table salt" in our household, but my roommate made the switch to sea salt about 6 months ago when he got seriously into baking bread, and all else aside on health benefits and whatnot, yes, it DOES make a significant difference in taste.

The only reason I've been a little wary to switch over entirely is evidently iodine is a pretty important thing to get small amounts of, and I'm not sure where else in my diet I'd be getting it. I should look into that...