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Old 06-06-2008, 10:30 PM   #11
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Unless I've misunderstood you, I don't think I really agree with some of that. Any kind of diagnosis makes us "guessers"? Stuff like depression, anxiety, etc is real. I do agree that the way most people treat it is bogus, though. I took pills for depression and anxiety for a while when I was younger. It helped the symptoms, but it made me feel like shit (made me feel nothing but artificially chipper, actually), and it didn't actually fix anything. That's why I stopped taking it and learned to deal with those kinds of things on my own, which ended up working even better for me than the pills were, which I think is in the area of what you were probably getting at there. I'm hesitant to take any kinds of medication unless I really feel I need it, which is very rare.

I think that whole, "time is an illusion, and now is all that matters" business isn't really a good way to look at it. When I used to think that way, nothing good came of it, and if I had continued to think that way, my life would be a mess right now. I see that kind of reasoning as the "don't let your past destroy your present" sentiment taken to an extreme. You did say something about changing the future, though, so maybe I misread something.

I wish money was an illusion, because then I'd have to worry a lot less about it!

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Chief, I'm not saying that anxiety is not real. For fucks sake I've been battling it my entire life. However what pisses me off is that these assholes are quick to dispense a pill, but not so quick to give you applicable techniquest to learn to apply to eventually not have to take the pills.

The past few days, I've been plagued with panic and worry and 3 deadly panic attacks. I thought I was losing my mind. What do I do? I took some klonazepam. Why? Because it helps, while I figure out WTF is going on. No additional stress, no worry, so WTF?

Well I was drinking tons of apple juice. I use to be a soda addict. I switched to organic apple juice a while back, but was consuming about a liter a day on top of the usual liter or so of water. I'm just one of those "always have to have a drink" type of people. Well at 180 lbs, I was sort of sick of being that weight. Now I'm 6'0 so I was by no means fat, but wanted to be 170. So, I made a grave mistake. I started drinking wifes caffine free (can't handle caffine in any form) diet coke.

Well over a month, I lost 10 lbs. Then the anxiety starts a week ago and I'm going out of my mind worrying about it. Wife takes my blood pressure. It's like 40 points higher than it should be. So I sit down and meditate on it and ask God for the answer. I came out of the meditation and didn't think much about it then all of a sudden a few hours later I stumble on a site and the word ASPARTAME POISONING sticks out at me. Sort of like it was a red neon sign if you will. I click on it and the symptom list is astounding. Aspartame by itself is not bad really. However in the body it metabolizes as Formaldehyde. WTF? This is unreal to me. Now I admit, I'm the fucking moron that started taking it. But now that I know what is up, I'm calm and cool as I was before I started drinking this poison.

So although the apple juice is bad in itself with sugar and all. I buy organic local produced farm brand and I really don't give a shit if I go back up to 180. Yesterday was the worst fucking day of my life. I had to drink about 8 beers and take 3 klonazepams to maintain my sanity. I hate alchohol. I hate anything that saps your energy. I don't understand why people love beer so much, it's beyond me. I mean do you just drink in order to fall asleep? Why not skip the beer and just go to bed. But I guess that's just me, I don't get it and if others want to do it, have at it and be happy. However stay the fuck away from the diet shit. OMFG

Mostly it was the dizzyness and almost passing out and lack of energy that was driving me nuts. I felt like a lump. Bones aching, dizzy after working out. No energy, no appetite. Look at this shit. Unreal

Aspartame Side Effects

The components of aspartame can lead to a number of health problems, as you have read. Side effects can occur gradually, can be immediate, or can be acute reactions. According to Lendon Smith, M.D. there is an enormous population suffering from side effects associated with aspartame, yet have no idea why drugs, supplements and herbs don’t relieve their symptoms. Then, there are users who don’t ‘appear’ to suffer immediate reactions at all. Even these individuals are susceptible to the long-term damage caused by excitatory amino acids, phenylalanine, methanol, and DKP.
Adverse reactions and side effects of aspartame include:
Eye
blindness in one or both eyes
decreased vision and/or other eye problems such as: blurring, bright flashes, squiggly lines, tunnel vision, decreased night vision
pain in one or both eyes
decreased tears
trouble with contact lenses
bulging eyes
Ear
tinnitus - ringing or buzzing sound
severe intolerance of noise
marked hearing impairment
Neurologic
epileptic seizures
headaches, migraines and (some severe)
dizziness, unsteadiness, both
confusion, memory loss, both
severe drowsiness and sleepiness
paresthesia or numbness of the limbs
severe slurring of speech
severe hyperactivity and restless legs
atypical facial pain
severe tremors
Psychological/Psychiatric
severe depression
irritability
aggression
anxiety
personality changes
insomnia
phobias

Chest
palpitations, tachycardia
shortness of breath
recent high blood pressure

Gastrointestinal
nausea
diarrhea, sometimes with blood in stools
abdominal pain
pain when swallowing
Skin and Allergies
itching without a rash
lip and mouth reactions
hives
aggravated respiratory allergies such as asthma
Endocrine and Metabolic
loss of control of diabetes
menstrual changes
marked thinning or loss of hair
marked weight loss
gradual weight gain
aggravated low blood sugar (hypoglycemia)
severe PMS
Other
frequency of voiding and burning during urination
excessive thirst, fluid retention, leg swelling, and bloating
increased susceptibility to infection
Additional Symptoms of Aspartame Toxicity include the most critical symptoms of all
death
irreversible brain damage
birth defects, including mental retardation
peptic ulcers
aspartame addiction and increased craving for sweets
hyperactivity in children
severe depression
aggressive behavior
suicidal tendencies
Aspartame may trigger, mimic, or cause the following illnesses:
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Epstein-Barr
Post-Polio Syndrome
Lyme Disease
Grave’s Disease
Meniere’s Disease
Alzheimer’s Disease
ALS
Epilepsy
Multiple Sclerosis (MS)
EMS
Hypothyroidism
Mercury sensitivity from Amalgam fillings
Fibromyalgia
Lupus
non-Hodgkins
Lymphoma
Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD)

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Old 06-08-2008, 06:35 PM   #13
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That's why I hate diet soda and bitch at my friends and relatives who drink it. Not that any soda is good for you at all, but if you have to drink soda, I think you're better off with the regular stuff.
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Excellent read.

I trying telling my friends about how bad milk is based on what I've learned from Tony Robbins...and they can't accept it. To fucking ignorant.

That's why they all have guts and I'm getting healthier and more muscular (with lots of working out) as the days go by.

I'm 24 btw, and I am aware that the American "Cuisine" is a load of bullshit.

Fat fucking parents taking their fat fucking kids to fat ass McDonalds....it all makes me sick that we have to pay for their medical problems with our hard earned dollars.

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Excellent read.

I trying telling my friends about how bad milk is based on what I've learned from Tony Robbins...and they can't accept it. To fucking ignorant.

That's why they all have guts and I'm getting healthier and more muscular (with lots of working out) as the days go by.

I'm 24 btw, and I am aware that the American "Cuisine" is a load of bullshit.

Fat fucking parents taking their fat fucking kids to fat ass McDonalds....it all makes me sick that we have to pay for their medical problems with our hard earned dollars.
Been taking your glutamine?

I used to drink a hell of a lot of milk growing up. I quit drinking so much of it a few years ago, and I feel a lot better, and I used to have very bad allergies, and they have subsided. I still have to use a spray every once in a while, but that's because I have two dogs.

I've recently been getting these products:

Milk

They seem to be a pretty good alternative to regular milk in the grocery store that is worthless now.

P.S. That Simply Smart chocolate milk is the shit. Probably the best chocolate milk I've ever had.
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I haven't taken the Glutamine yet. I need to do research to see what the hell it's gonna do to me...lol
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Did a little research on Glutamine. It's tough doing research on anything.

Like Eggs. They're good, no, they're bad, no they're good, no, they're bad. Fucking drives me mad.

I tend to go with a lot of the old school theory. There was a doc from Britian way back that said, when you poperly cook an egg, it has more vitamins and minerals and nutrients that most of us get in a week eating the standard food pyramid bullshit diet.

Anyhow, I detoxed pretty well from the Diet coke. I seriously was in very bad shape for about a good solid 2 days. I mean panic mode and it sucked. Klonazepam .5mg / pill, which is the smallest dosage did little to help. Then my wife took my blood pressure and said it was high and I freaked. 170 lbs, I'm 37, in the best shape of my life, eating 80% RAW and I got fucking high blood pressure? Not happy.

So I did 2 days of mostly raw veggies, cauliflower, broccoli, carrotts and cabbage in the blender with water, organic self-made carrot juice and bentonite clay which is negatively charged and attaches to free radicals to clean you out. I did a coffee enema as well which made me feel like superman after. The clay is in liquid form. Sonnes is the brand. Google Sonnes Bentonite Clay. Indians used this stuff way back in the olden times for a multitude of things.

The carrot juice cleanses your body, boosts your immune system and toxins collect in the liver. The caffine in the organic coffee in the enema goes through your bowel tract up to the liver where the caffine accelerates the liver into overdrive, producing bile and cleaning it out a lot quicker than normal. You spend 10 minutes on the bowl and your done. However the coffee takes time to prepare and you don't want to try this with a rack of ribs sitting inside you. You want to be cleaned out, and use a water enema prior to the coffee enema to clean you out first.

Holding anything inside you from the opposite direction if you've never had the pleasure is not easy like it sounds. You'll cramp bad and when I first tried this I could only hold anything like 2 minutes before a mad dash to the toilet. That's why you want to use distilled water first. I can never find it, so I usually get a couple gallons of cheap good spring water without clorine in it. If you go straight for the coffee without cleaning yourself out first with water, your going to cramp up and waste the coffee. It's a bit of a procedure to prep the coffee enema (google Gerson Coffee enema) so you don't want to waste it.

Most laugh at me with the coffee enema stuff, but they're the ones that are walking around with a less than stellar bowel tract, so their loss. I'm not afraid to talk about it and it's funny when they are feeling down and out, they come to me and start asking questions. I claim by no means to be an expert about anything. I research and I base my info never on one source. When I hear a bunch of people saying the same thing, then I start to get interested.

What's really great is that the caffine from the enema does not get into the sympathetic nervous system, which is a +1 for me as I can't do caffine as I'm high-wired as it is and it makes me shake bad and literally lose my mind.

Dr. Gerson was poisoned and his simple therapy of carrot juice and coffee enemas is OUTLAWED in the USA. Imagine that ha? However many were cured from cancer. Michael Landon from Little house on the Prarie, a show back in the olden times was on the Gerson therapy down in Mexico where it's not illegal. His guessers in LA talked him into coming back and getting on chemotherapy and now he's dead.

I'm not saying chemo does not have it's place, but it basically renders the very system that is designed to fight cancer (your immune system) useless, which sort of boggles my mind. It's as if they just want to kill you quicker and get the money for the medical expenses and move on to the next victim. There were many reported with Gerson to have received far more releif from the coffee enemas (which they took several daily) than from morphine

I also maxxed out on vitamin C for a couple days as well. I have major gripes with Vitamin C as I might have mentioned as it only has 1 of the 24 constituants of naturally occuring Vitamin C as in raw fruits like Oranges and the like. However this fool isolated one of the 24 constituants in natural vitamin C, coined the term "ascorbic acid" and the FDA passed it as Vitamin C. It's a complete fraud that ascorbic acid is real Vitamin C. It's a preservative, not a fucking vitamin.

Never the less, ascorbic acid was recommended for part of an aspartame detox so I took 9 grams over 2 days. The combo of all this stuff seemed to help out a lot and I ordered some of this stuff to help with the post trauma of the past few days

It's called Serendyn and is all natural and has an 80% success rate. I've read many stories from multiple sources over the past couple days before I ordered it. Many claim it being more effective than prozac and all the other anti-anxiety meds out there. We shall see.

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Here's some interesting stuff on Glutamine:

Glutamine - or L Glutamine - is traditionally considered a nonessential amino acid but may be conditionally essential in patients with catabolic (loss of muscle tissue due to disease) conditions. Glutamine -supplemented foods in these patients have been shown to prevent deterioration of gut permeability, protect against the development of intestinal mucosal atrophy, and improve nitrogen balance.
Glutamine levels in plasma and skeletal muscle are decreased in those with cancer. Glutamine supplementation can attenuate loss of protein in the muscle and protect immune and gut-barrier function during radiochemotherapy in patients with advanced cancer.
L-glutamine is the most prevalent amino acid in the blood. Human cells readily manufacture L-glutamine and under normal circumstances, dietary intake and production of L-glutamine is sufficient. However, in times of stress or increased energy output, the body's tissues need more L-glutamine than usual.

L Glutamine 1,000 mg, 90 Capsules - Club Natural


L-Glutamine has recently been the focus of much scientific interest. A growing body of evidence suggests that during certain stressful times, the body may require more glutamine than it can produce. Under these circumstances Glutamine may be considered a "conditionally essential" amino acid. Glutamine is involved in maintaining a positive nitrogen balance (an anabolic state) and also aids rapidly growing cells (immune system lymphocytes and intestinal cell enterocytes). In addition, Glutamine is a regulator of acid-base balance and a nitrogen transporter.

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Suggested Use: As a dietary supplement, take 1 glutamine capsule 1-3 times daily, preferably with meals, or as directed by your health care provider.

Benefit of Glutamine - Glutamine in Sports - Glutamine Research summary
Short-term ingestion of glutamine does not enhance weightlifting performance in resistance-trained men.
Heavy exercise induces impairment of lymphocyte function. Ten male athletes participated in a randomized, placebo-controlled, double-blind crossover study. Each athlete performed bicycle exercise for 2 h at 75% of maximum O(2) consumption on 2 separate days. Glutamine or placebo supplements were given orally during and up to 2 hours post-exercise. Most lymphocyte subpopulations decreased 2 h after exercise. Glutamine supplementation abolished the post-exercise decline in plasma glutamine concentration but had no effect on lymphocyte trafficking, Natural killer cell activities, T cell proliferation, catecholamines, human growth hormone, insulin, or glucose. This study does not support the idea that glutamine plays a mechanistic role in exercise-induced immune changes.
The combination of glutamine and creatine increases muscle mass and power.

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Thanks, we all love to be right don't we? I'm joking. I'm only right to the extent that what I say becomes your truth. This is the major problem in society. People dictating what the truth is. There is no such thing as truth. Only experience that becomes engrained in you as wisdom that you share with others.

What is means to them is up to them entirely until it gets them thinking and they incorporate someone elses ideas in their own life and perhaps it becomes wisdom for them.

My only wish is to get people to think and realize these fucks like Rumsfeld and Monsanto Monsanto ~ Home

are fucking poisoning people in the name of profit. Look at that friendly website. I'll bet you don't know that Corruptsfeld is involved with that. He's the major polluter who does much to pollute your soda and your drinking water with flouride which is a by-product of aluminum. It's also interesting that alzheimers patients have aluminum deposits in their brain. Is there a connection? I don't know, but it makes you think.

Racketeering Charges Filed Against Donald Rumsfeld & Monsanto

I try to do my best to dissasociate myself from this shit as it makes me very upset. What gets to me is the number of people (millions) that still trust these pigs and look at me like I'm the fucking bad guy.

I'm the bad guy? When did that happen?

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