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Unread 12-30-2011, 02:53 PM   #1
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I have just been diagnosed with depression, Any advice?

I just got back from an appointment with my Psychologist and he has diagnosed me with depression. There are a lot of reasons that we have determined have lead to it and I have had the symptoms for about half a year.

I come here only to ask how I can treat it, medication being a last resort. I am not going to complain or whine or go into much detail about it all. I have just been going through this for a long time and I want to get back to the way I was before.

If there is any advice and help any one can give me it would be much appreciated, thank you.

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Depression is one of those mutli-headed beasts that may take several forms of treatment to get it managed.

- A Sad light (or a full spectrum lamp)
- Herbs such as St Johns wort
- exercise
- going out and being social even when you don't feel like going
- limit your intake of alcohol or don't drink as it will compound your symptoms

Meds can and do help, be patient as it may take a while to take hold or get the right one that works for you.
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I recently have been seeing doctors about depression, and I'm currently on anti-depressants which don't seem to be helping. I may be trying cognitive behaviour therapy which is basically an attempt at correcting your way of thinking. It's not counselling, just giving you the mental lessons needed to overcome it, which may be an option for you.

However as AK DRAGON said, exercise and socialising are two things I got recommended also which I intend to work on.
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my advice would be try to:
exercise
get a good nights sleep
try to be around people/things that make you happy as much as you can
limit alchohol/drugs intake
anti depressant medication worked for me, when used in comjustion with the above things. however, and i cant stress this enough, with alot of meds for depression, things get worse before they get better.
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I have a good friend with the same type of problems, he was at one point pretty much locked in his house..the kids called him Blue.

I convinced him to start running with me and he eventualy did....there was alot of banging on his door..once for over an hour which included the cops but i refused to give up.

Needless to say he is one of the leaders of the running group now and has no depression at all. Watching him with others tears me up some times knowing how bad he was.

He found running and you will also find something hopefully without the drugs. If you were ok at one time there is a very good chance you will be ok again!

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This isn't an accusation, but advice: don't wait to feel better before making changes. This kinda ties in with the advice to exercise and force yourself to be sociable. When I feel like the most useless, unrealistic person on the planet and feel like I should just give up on the things I love and just find a generic graduate job, I find the thing which helps the most is to just force myself to work at the things I want to do. I realise that I'm never going to be the person I want to be if I don't work at it. There may be people out there with more of a degree of natural ability and your efforts up to that point may have been unsuccessful but you've probably learned from that and will have more conscious experience of how to better yourself. You won't clear those hurdles if you just stop. Work at making yourself who you want to be, ask for help and look for others to help you who you may not yet know well. I honestly believe that depression is so prevalent these days because we are pushed into such am isolated existence and we are advised to stay out of each others lives, doing only what directly helps us. If you think you'll feel more confident about finding a job you can be happy in if you dress better and you see someone who has that sort of look you want, go up to them and say "excuse me, mate, I've been looking for a jacket like that for a while. Where did you buy it, it's really cool/stylish/classy/adjective." Some people may be dicks and tell you to .... off, others will be complimented and happily help you.

If you apply for an opportunity and aren't successful, ask the person you dealt with why you weren't successful, what they suggest you could work on and if there's any other way you could help out to be around the situation you applied for. You'll probably be better known to them by doing so and you can make yourself their go to guy and you'll take more from your rejection than just a no. This can apply to a job, a place in a band, a place at university, being dumped ("I'm sorry it didn't work out. I'm not trying to force you to be with me but How can I be a better boyfriend? Thankyou for being honest with me.") and plenty of other situations.

Also, track your progress. If you have some record of how far you've come to become who you are, even if you feel you've missed your targets lately, you can look back and see "I wouldn't have been able to do that 3 Weeks/6 months/1 year ago". I find that helps. My life may not be progressing as fast as I would hope but I've don't a lot in the last year to be where I am and this might just be an incubation period.

Making goals and tracking them is something I find to be very important. This doesn't need to be finally written down or be extravagant goals, but even just learning how to cook pancakes better (30 seconds on first side, 10 seconds after the flip) or getting up half an hour earlier so you can watch the news and learn something before work. Little steps are key, combined with looking back and seeing the cumulative effect they have had.

This may be the ramblings of a mad man but I how it helps a little. Good luck, buddy.
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I think depression is very over diagnosed in America, ADHD and bipolar as well.

If you are feeling down and not enjoying life, try to get involved with things you'll have fun with. Too much isolation and over analyzing will drag anyone down.get out there and live your life. Exercise, meet women, play guitar with friends, anything but bumming around.
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You have to ride the peaks and troughs and keep telling yourself that you are strong and keep fighting. I can not stress highly enough how much drink and/or drugs can be throw your perspective far from reality when you are vulnerable and in a low. Cut them out completely. Spend a bit of time to yourself in a nice comfortable place but get out and make an effort to socialise and just keep "doing things". Life will throw things on you and challenge you but be strong and think of all the things you have.

Everyone is different but thats what worked for me. Its not easy but I never seen giving up as an option
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I Have a buddy who's wife left him not long ago, he was way down about it. After a couple months I suggested these exact things to him & he is way better now. Not cured but better.

In a nut shell find someone you can talk to & do things that will give you a sense of accomplishment.

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-Natural light is your friend

-Buy flax seed oil, add it liberally to smoothies you make daily (I'll add 1-2 tablespoons or more, depending on what I'm making)

-Buy protein powder (I prefer plant based, like pumpkin seed/pea/hemp etc.). Add to smoothies

-Make smoothies daily

-Go shopping for full spectrum bulbs. Read online reviews etc. Then shop for light fixtures that support the bulbs. This is much cheaper than a SAD light, and allows you to put more up in different locations in your home.

-Get involved in some kind of rec sports. Fun exercise, and socialization.

-Force yourself to walk anywhere within walking distance (as is practical) instead of driving. Exercise and natural light.

-If you have a problem socializing/shy or whatever, force yourself to do it and be confident about it.

Optional - Get into fashion, understand fit/cut etc. and buy yourself a few pieces of nice clothes, nice shoes. Learn the kind of thinking that goes into putting together an outfit. Wearing properly fitted clothing will not make you a hipster.


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I come here only to ask how I can treat it, medication being a last resort.
I concur with a lot of the advice given in this thread, but I wanted to address this bit.

If one is in the spin cycle of a washing machine, it can be difficult to make changes, and to climb out, until that washing machine stops spinning. Thinking of all the life changes you could possibly make to avoid being spun around is difficult while that drum keeps you dizzy and off-balance.

If someone is physically injured, the first thing that normally happens is making sure that person is stable, and then fixing the problem.

If one's thinking is aberrant (even something like depression), it's anywhere from difficult to impossible to make changes while locked in that cycle of thinking. Even if you're a good candidate for cognitive therapy, you can't start cogitating until you've managed to reach a place to think in a stable fashion.

On the plus side, the majority of modern SSRIs (Selective Serotonin Re-uptake Inhibitors) act to prevent serotonin from being diminished in the brain. That allows the serotonin levels to build back up to what is baseline normal in humans, so that you can actually function, as opposed to being depressed. It's like being anemic: taking an iron supplement just gets you back to normal.

And, of course, all the other advice (sleep better, avoid depressants, etc.) are about restoring and preserving that level as well.

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You'll likely feel a bit better in a few weeks, once the serotonin levels build up, and can then start exploring what lifestyle changes you want to make to enable you to *not* have to take meds.

Don't stop taking an SSRI on your own!

Good luck!
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Can't really help you, but I think going to the gym a .... ton is a good idea. It's really fun too once you get into it, the first month or so is OK but once you get into it it's great.
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I was diagnosed with depression about 6 years ago, when I was around 19.
At first I was pretty weary about taking medication, but I think it helped me regain some level of feeling "normal" (whatever normal means).

Once I'd been on the meds a while I started making changes in my lifestyle. I stopped drinking as much. I started getting out and hanging with friends more, going to various social events with friends and family. I started getting more exercise, like free weights at the gym a few days a week or going to the track to run laps.
I also like to keep myself busy...going out with my GF, visiting friends and family, school, working, practicing guitar, cooking, drawing, painting, even doing puzzles I like to keep my body and brain busy, because downtime is my enemy.

Within a couple years I quit taking meds. I'm 25 now, and I've been med free for 4 years. I honestly I feel better now than ever. So keep your head up and I really think you'll eventually feel better.
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- limit your intake of alcohol or don't drink as it will compound your symptoms
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The best quote someone ever told me when I depressed was "Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes." It helped me reflect on my then-current situation with my family, with friends, and with school, which led me to realize that the majority of the reason why I was depressed was indeed that I was surrounded by assholes. Although, that isn't to say that I absolved myself of all responsibility, because I also felt bad that I wasn't at a level that I found acceptable (in my studies, in my musical endeavours, and in my physical condition [although this one was the least important to me]), so I decided to just push myself to the max, get rid of my asshole friends who were bringing me down, resolve family situations, and get my grades to a point where I would be accepted by a university. And it worked. A good point also is that working out does seem to help a lot, it helped me when I worked out in the mornings because I'd be energized all day. Also, getting rid of junk food helped a lot too.

So basically what I'm saying is: eat right, work out at least three days a week (that's what my powerfit teacher always recommended, while leaving a day in between work out sessions to let your muscles chill out. Also you don't have to do crazy exercises, I basically did pushups, core exercises, curls, and jogging, and that was enough for me) and analyze your current situation in your life. Are you at a point where you want to be? If not, change it.

Depression sucks, I know, I was close to the suicide three times, and if I wasn't so afraid of pain, I'd have been dead a long time ago, but now it's all behind me. I'd say the clichéd "it gets better" line, but it doesn't get better unless YOU want it to.

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There's a book I started reading (some lady at work suggested it) called Your Heart's Desire. The author's first name eludes me at the moment but her last name is Choquette.

Seems like it might be an interesting introspective experience that you may find helpful. I'm not much help in these cases usually as I tend to come off rather insensitive most of the time, but I think that book might do a better job of conveying any advice I could give.

Also, as some have suggested, exercise and even cleaning (I heard this on that movie Be Kind Rewind) seem to brighten my day a lot of the time.



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Not living in mess can definitely help, in my experience.

All of ArkaneDemon's post is great. Definitely work on losing the people who hold you back and bleed you dry. The people who ask you how you are before asking you for something but never listen to your problems or help you out are not friends but leeches.

In terms of books, check out Tim Ferriss' "Four Hour Work Week" and "the Element" by Sir Ken Robinson. Both are great for directing you toward the things which might fulfil you.
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