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Unread 02-13-2011, 02:53 PM   #1
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Sport supplements

just thought i'd start a thread about different types of supplements and their needs.

let it be creatine, or difference between ceasien and isolate protein, omega fatty acids, or whatever else you may have questions about.

or you may have tried and hated, or loved.
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and what supplements are you on right now, and what are your goals?
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Unread 02-13-2011, 04:03 PM   #2
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I take BSN True Mass and ON 100% gold standard whey

They are, in my opinion, the best tasting supplements of their kind, true mass being a gainer, with 800 calories, the chocolate tastes amazing... And the protein being the best PURE protein I've ever had, I've tried Isopure (good fruity flavors), Muscle Milk (metallic after taste, has trace metals, VERY bad for you), Syntha 6 (protein blend, i think its casein and whey?) Nectar (awesome flavor, but blends aren't good for post workout) and a few others like EAS and 6 star (both shitty, EAS has trace metals too)

and I used to take NO-XPLODE, but took too much once and after my workout couln't stop shaking and thought i was gonna die, NEVER again.
and I used to take creatine and glutamine, but theres such subtle difference if you drink a gallon of water a day anyways, the creatine will just bloat you out. Most NO products are just caffeine with very little Arganine (the nitric oxide precursor) thats why i stopped taking NO Xplode and never even used my Super Pump 250... Fish oil is good for skin and healthy fat absorption so i take that, and of course a multi vitamin (liquid - can't swallow pills)

Basically I've tried every non-dangerous supplement type out there, but found that a weight gainer three times a day along with whole foods and pure whey after workout works the best for me

(Most of what I've learned about supplementing is from my MMA coaches)

Oh and Accelerade and Endurox are awesome supplements, they're like Gatorade, electrolyte replenishers, but not full of HFCS
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The worst stuff I've ever had is pretty much anything by Weider they do a protein bar that was so horrible I can barely describe it but try imagining what washing machine powder coated in cheap grainy chocolate would taste like and your close.

Apart from that I've tried almost everything though I'm not a fan of pre-workout stuff like NO-xplode as it's too expensive and I tend not to respond to it but creatine monohydrate works well with me and I've just started using creatine gluconate and D-aspartic acid with some great results so far especially from the gluconate as it doesn't dehydrate or bloat you.

When it comes to protein powder I tend to skip buying casein as it's too expensive plus a tub of cottage cheese or quark blended with a scoop or two of whey is just as good and cheaper too.
As for brands PHD, BSN and Optimum Nutrition have the best tasting stuff imo but I order most of my stuff now from a place in the UK called Myprotein as they do every type of supplement/vitamin/etc at bulk prices which saves me a lot of money.

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Dymatize elite whey, 2 scoops mixed with 150ml soy milk and 350ml 1,5% milk. Damn good stuff. Only thing I consume post-workout. Works pretty damn fine! And the taste is divine.

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I take BSN True Mass and ON 100% gold standard whey

i'm hearing extreme mix reviews for ON 100%.

on bb.com, it gets great reviews, but if you ask individually, people say that they taste good only to those who haven't had other things before. so idk what that means. but i'm curious about em and prolly gonna buy maybe their coffee or capacciino soon


as for me, i'm relatively new to the whole thing.
aside from the random stuff that grocery stores sell under their own name. which were just basic whey protein stuff. i didn't see much gains in that, so i jumped over to ISO100 by dymatize.

i have to say, aside from the strawberry iso100, dymatize makes some incredible stuff. on one 5 lbs vanilla jar, i managed to get great cuts all over my arms and upper chest, all the while i gained quiet a bit of weight. unfortunatley, 2010 saw me being injured with numerous injuries, so whatever i gained over the year, i lost within 6 months


by far, the worst tasting stuff i've tried have to be:
Weider: tasted like sand, but they also left these weird jelly like cubes in their mix which always made me gag...just horrible

but to top that, Six Star Muscle's 'french vanilla' whey protein. made a mistake buying a 5 lbs jar on sale for 20 bucks. had it thrice, and gave up on it. gave it away to a friend, he had it once and to the garbage it went. it really tasted like ash trays!

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For protein, I take Gaspari Myofusion. Best tasting protein ever. Plus, it is not just whey but also egg and milk protein that stay in your system for about 4 hours. or so says the marketing. I take protein twice a day (when I wake and when I sleep). It also mixes really well. No stomach problems either.

I have taken NO xplode which worked for what it was. It was just a bunch of stims. Woke you up real nice though. Tasted really good. Like a blueberry energy drink.

Gaspari Superpump or super dump worked great, when i didn't need to spray out my insides. Gave really nice gains. Tasted great as everything Gaspari does.
Gaspari Size on works pretty well. Doesn't cause stomach problems.

The latest preworkout stuff I have taken is AEN presurge stacked with AEN intrabolic. This crap tastes so nasty. Worse than cat piss. But it really pumped me up and I made some amazing gains in strength with it. Also kept me working out with a lot more endurance. By the end of the month, I got used to it.

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[QUOTE=soliloquy;2341365]i'm hearing extreme mix reviews for ON 100%.

on bb.com, it gets great reviews, but if you ask individually, people say that they taste good only to those who haven't had other things before. so idk what that means. but i'm curious about em and prolly gonna buy maybe their coffee or capacciino soon


Yeah I've stuck to vanilla and root beer, and they've never steered my wrong, but I have tried at least 9 different powders before settling on ON... but it comes down to personal taste preference and also if you get a bad batch... I got a batch that tasted like a fart once, and i returned it and they gave me a new one and it was back to deliciousville
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i'm hearing extreme mix reviews for ON 100%.

on bb.com, it gets great reviews, but if you ask individually, people say that they taste good only to those who haven't had other things before. so idk what that means. but i'm curious about em and prolly gonna buy maybe their coffee or capacciino soon


Yeah I've stuck to vanilla and root beer, and they've never steered my wrong, but I have tried at least 9 different powders before settling on ON... but it comes down to personal taste preference and also if you get a bad batch... I got a batch that tasted like a fart once, and i returned it and they gave me a new one and it was back to deliciousville

you can return opened packages based on taste?!

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I'm relatively new to supplements, but as far as whey protein is concerned I enjoy IsoFlex strawberry whey protein isolate. It's pretty synthetic tasting but in a good candy-like whey (..... bad pun), although it has real bits of strawberries in it as well. It beats out all of the others i've tried so far flavour-wise and it is 90% protein per scoop. I may give something else a try my next trip to GNC.

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Basically I've tried every non-dangerous supplement type out there, but found that a weight gainer three times a day along with whole foods and pure whey after workout works the best for me
I'm one of those people that has always been skinny and can eat all I want, yet gain nothing. I started trying out several different brands of whey protein and then thought maybe I should be using a gainer since I have a hard time gaining weight. I slowly gained weight, but wasn't working out enough to make up for the amount of calories per shake.

I switched back to whey protein, changed what I ate, changed up my workouts, and am much more satisfied with the results. The only issue is that a few months ago I started running again and probably burning more calories a day than I should be.

Does anyone know of a good protein powder that has a bit more calories than the average protein shake?
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Does anyone know of a good protein powder that has a bit more calories than the average protein shake?
The basic amount of calories depends on whether you mix your shake with milk or water and what type of milk you use too but most protein powders average around the same amount of calories so just try adding things to the shake in a blender such as....

Olive oil: it's calorifically dense and a good source of healthy fats a shot or two is enough but make sure it's extra virgin though.
Natural/greek yogurt: I like this a lot and sometimes I'll just eat a tub of it with a scoop or two of chocolate protein powder mixed in as a healthier substitute for ice cream.
Peanut butter: personally I prefer smooth but the most important thing is that it's organic/sugar free.
Oats: a good slow burning carb source and if you have a decent blender/food proccessor you should be able to grind them down until they are really fine which makes them really easy to blend.

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I'm typically mixing with whole milk, sometimes 1%. Not a fan of water and protein, especially if the powder tastes like chalk. I did a bit of research on various whey protein powders yesterday and came to the same conclusion you mentioned, they all average just about the same amount of calories.

Thanks for the tips on things to add! I occasionally blend a few scoops of ice cream for added calories. I'll definitely give the yogurt suggestion a try. I haven't eaten yogurt since I was a kid. My gf eats yogurt every day and has been trying to get me to start eating it again.
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WHERE IS THIS?!
i order from allstarhealth.com

they have a policy, as long as there is half the product left, you can return it... I've tested all my gainers through them based on those principles, when i didn't like them i sent them right back and got a full refund
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anyone know if bb.com (bodybuilding.com) matches prices?

the website Jstring mentioned has slightly cheaper stuff, but bb.com has over 7 million sales, so i trust bb.com more. plus, they ship to canada, so hey.

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But really, Insanity is just a pre-cursor. I'm planning to start Crossfit either in June or July, and I think I'd get more benefit from it if I didn't die on the first day of class.

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But really, Insanity is just a pre-cursor. I'm planning to start Crossfit either in June or July, and I think I'd get more benefit from it if I didn't die on the first day of class.

Getting any good results with that OxyELITE Pro? I always was curious about that stuff.

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I think so. It definitely feels "smoother" than other thermogenics I've taken in the past. I don't get the jittery or dizzy feeling, but it goes get the heart rate up there when I take it in the morning.

With the exception of mulit-vitamins and protein, I often wonder how much of a supplement's perceived results are placebo effect. It's such a poorly regulated industry.

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Some advice here would be lovely. I've been training in martial arts for about 8 months now, 3 times a week, my regime is: Monday: 1.5 hours of martial arts. Tuesday: 1.5 hours of fitness class (boxing, kickboxing,core work and general cardio) followed by half an hour of sparring, followed by an hour to an hour and a half of the martial arts style I do (karate/kung fu), Thursday is the same as a Tuesday but in reverse order.

I'm six foot one and a very slender build, currently I weigh about 70kgs
I've put on a few kilos since doing this, and my tone is pretty good. I just want to put a little more muscle mass on, my goal isn't to bulk up and become huge though. Currently I'm not taking any supplements, I know very little about them. Any advice or comments would be great
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Just a multi, whey Isolate, creatine when bulking and psyllium husk when I'm on keto.
do you find it hard to swallow psyllium? I've tried it once and it was like drinking sand paper, it scared me and I chucked it.
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I recently got serious about working out but I'm a newb when it comes to supplements. I am 6'1" and currently at approximately 160lbs and have been taking creatine monohydrate (Vitamin Shoppe brand) and some cheap whey protein that I got at Wal-Mart. I'm mixing both the creatine and whey protein in a shaker (2 scoops whey protein, 1 teaspoon creatine to 16oz water) post workout. I've tried mixing the above with milk for more calories but have found that it makes me bloated, is there anything you more experienced guys could suggest?
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Be prepared to try a lot of different proteins before you find one that doesn't "upset" your stomach. ON Gold Standard Whey is the most used protein supplement in the world. It doesn't really upset my stomach if I only have the 2 shakes per day. One day I was working out like crazy and tried to double up............ not a good idea.

A word of advice, the cheapo ones will make you

Isopure is probably the easiest on the stomach, but that stuff has gotten ridiculously expensive (the $40 bottle lasts just over 1 week for me).
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Be prepared to try a lot of different proteins before you find one that doesn't "upset" your stomach. ON Gold Standard Whey is the most used protein supplement in the world. It doesn't really upset my stomach if I only have the 2 shakes per day. One day I was working out like crazy and tried to double up............ not a good idea.

A word of advice, the cheapo ones will make you

Isopure is probably the easiest on the stomach, but that stuff has gotten ridiculously expensive (the $40 bottle lasts just over 1 week for me).
Thanks man, I'll definitely look into this and give it a try
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