[Dormant]

I don't really see what the problem is here? As long as you take these things in moderation they only affect your life as much as every other bad thing you do in your life (eating fatty foods, not doing exercise regularly etc).

I think there is a common misconception that if you take drugs you take far too much and are constantly putting your life at threat. That just isn't the case for most people. I think the attitude towards drugs is probably a bit more relaxed in the UK (generally) compared to the USA.

As long as people are educated about the effects and addiction levels I don't see what the problem is in letting them do themselves damage.

[Your Majesty]

Sex, Drugs and Rock N Roll - are you surprised that some metal band you like does drugs? or, drinks for that matter? or, cheats on their girlfreinds or wives with groupies?

At the end of the day, who gives a shit? As long as they produce good music, don't bother anyone and don't OD, who gives a rats ass what musicians do on their own time and dime? Seriously...... think about it?

[Brett89]

Originally Posted by Your Majesty

Sex, Drugs and Rock N Roll - are you surprised that some metal band you like does drugs? or, drinks for that matter? or, cheats on their girlfreinds or wives with groupies?

At the end of the day, who gives a shit? As long as they produce good music, don't bother anyone and don't OD, who gives a rats ass what musicians do on their own time and dime? Seriously...... think about it?

I didn't said that I wont like MA because they use drugs... I just said it's shit that people use it... and I won't be happy if they die by overdozeing the shit... anyway, drugs are shit and no one sould use them... pont

[Your Majesty]

Originally Posted by Brett89

anyway, drugs are shit and no one sould use them... pont

I agree with you.

BUT a lot of people do use drugs and its something that will never disappear. As long as thre is sex, drugs and alcohol, those temptations will always be tapped into by people, whether they ae musicians or not.

[nitelightboy]

Originally Posted by Your Majesty

I agree with you.

BUT a lot of people do use drugs and its something that will never disappear. As long as thre is sex, drugs and alcohol, those temptations will always be tapped into by people, whether they ae musicians or not.

Agreed. IN a perfect world, nobody would need drugs. But, this isn't a perfect world. And as highly addictive as many drugs are, it's easy to get hooked.

[Dormant]

Originally Posted by Brett89

... anyway, drugs are shit and no one sould use them... pont

See I might be playing devils advocate here slightly but I don't agree with this statement. All drugs have negative effects on your body and mental state but where do you draw the line? Like Bob said Nicotine is actually the most addictive drug in the world and alcohol is probably the most dangerous in terms of the negative effects it has on you. Just because other class A drugs are scorned upon by our society it doesn't make them any worse than some of the 'drugs' we are exposed to. I say 'drugs' like that because things like caffeine, chocolate (which increases Serotonin levels which strictly speaking makes it a form of drug) are all bad for you and in excessive consumption fuck you up.

The thing is drugs like Cocaine and Heroin although massively damaging in high volumes are not as addictive as Nicotine and Alcohol. People who get addicted to class A drugs have other things in their lives (personality, personal issues etc) which make them more prone to being addicted to dangerous drugs.

I am not condoning drug use but at the same time I don't think this is a clear black and white issue. I think you need to know what the real affects and effects of drugs are before making a statement like that. I guess my problem with it is that less about the points I have made (above) but that their is not enough unbiased education available.

As part of my degree I did a course called Psychobiology of Addiction. It explained how our brains are predisposed to enjoy drugs as we have neural networks specifically to feel the independent sensations you get from all different types of drugs. It was a brilliant course as it outlined the sheer highs and joys of taking drugs that were possible but also showed the catastrophic effects it can have on your prefrontal lobes. It displayed a balanced argument unlike the drug propaganda that society and our governments feed us. I think everyone should be given this education.

Sorry this is a mega rant for no good reason.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Your Majesty

Sex, Drugs and Rock N Roll - are you surprised that some metal band you like does drugs? or, drinks for that matter? or, cheats on their girlfreinds or wives with groupies?

At the end of the day, who gives a shit? As long as they produce good music, don't bother anyone and don't OD, who gives a rats ass what musicians do on their own time and dime? Seriously...... think about it?

hmm... i'll take an order of Sex and Rock'N Roll. hold the Drugs, please.

[metalfiend666]

Originally Posted by Leon

hmm... i'll take an order of Sex and Rock'N Roll. hold the Drugs, please.

Me too. Hold the booze as well.

[nitelightboy]

Originally Posted by metalfiend666

Hold the booze as well.

I'll hold the booze for ya. Can't promise anyone else will get any though.

[David]

I'm 16 years old, and therefore I'm immortal and nothing can hurt or affect me.


Drinking = party. It's fun getting drunk with some friends, giggling like a motherfucker, and just having such a good time because everyone's all loose and funky.

Cigs, people need a buzz to relax themselves, kids do it to look cool.

Weed, recreationally it's fun. Once again, in a close group of friends, where everyone just loosen's up and it's just so funny!

There's reasons for drugs other than depression. When something becomes a lifestyle habbit, things need to change. There's no reason why people can't use them for enjoyment, other than to numb themselves of some deeper pain.



Oh, and other drugs... fuck those drugs. Sure you get a "high", but you also get a huge low. Anything with a huge low, I stay away from.