Starting to actually get into running - Page 10

Murmel · 11-28-2011, 01:22 PM

Man, just started running (and working out) this week again after about 2 months of doing nothing. It's pretty fascinating how fast you loose cardio, I can't run nearly as far.

On the other hand, my arms seem to be stronger than ever

MFB · 11-28-2011, 01:38 PM

I'm still kind of baffled as to how I came back into running and working out in general, with my body accepting it. Like, before in school and such my body would just not do it and was generally shit overall, not to say it's much better now though. But when I first started setting up a routine, I just kind of guesstimated what I could lift for my arms, and then my legs, and so forth and I was actually greatly undershooting it somehow; perhaps because of work where I constantly lift cases of waters and such at a time for so long, I had built up a certain endurance and so forth.

My legs however were just like "Nah, we can run around a lot since you stand for hours at a time, it's cool bro" and sure enough there I was running 12-12:30 miles after years of being lazy.

Bevo · 11-28-2011, 05:15 PM

Right on guys to get back at it or start to run!

I highly recommend if your close to a running store to get involved in a running group. Lots of really great people run and no jokes there are more woman than men! One girl in our group does not know that a white thong and super thin black tights..every weekend! Thank god she is my speed so I get to run behind her LOL!!!

The social aspect of the group run is very fun, it makes the distance goes by super fast and makes you want run every time, try it..its free and a great way to meet people!

Cabinet · 11-30-2011, 03:07 AM

I've got back on running too. I ran 14:30 today and when I stopped and stretched after that I developed a weird pain in my left leg. It's above my achilles tendon but below the calf. It feels tight and can make it difficult to walk. I assume I just pulled something but I'm not so sure.

Infamous Impact · 11-30-2011, 02:28 PM

Have to give a shoutout to Bevo, got in the sprinters part of my school's track team with a 55.07s 400m, and lowered my mile to 6:15.

Bevo · 12-03-2011, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cabinet

I've got back on running too. I ran 14:30 today and when I stopped and stretched after that I developed a weird pain in my left leg. It's above my achilles tendon but below the calf. It feels tight and can make it difficult to walk. I assume I just pulled something but I'm not so sure.

Dont sweat it yet, give it a few days and it should come around. Something that will help is a topical cream, this is pretty much Advil but in cream form, works amazing, its at you local drugstore.

What you did is probably go to hard or to fast on muscles that have not been used.
Best advice, go half as far as you want at half the speed you want to go then once that is super easy say after 2 weeks 8 runs then increase it by 5 min.

A good example is running on your fore foot or like you have no shoes on, it has the same affect as putting your toes on a step and doing calf raises.
You can't do that for 20 min straight without getting hurt right?

Bevo · 12-03-2011, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infamous Impact

Have to give a shoutout to Bevo, got in the sprinters part of my school's track team with a 55.07s 400m, and lowered my mile to 6:15.

Hot damn!!!

Right on, glad you got on the team...now the work begins!
Keep it fun and train hard!

troyguitar · 12-03-2011, 08:46 AM

Well after ....ing up my knee during my first attempt at running, probably from overdoing it, I had to quit and let it heal for a few weeks. Just started up again after Thanksgiving at the same speeds but about half the distance and I don't quite feel like I'm going to die afterward now

What I've noticed, though, is that my legs get worn out and start locking up long before my heart rate gets terribly high. I need a better monitor, but I'm running (jogging really, 10 min mile speed) somewhere around 120bpm. I'm hardly out of breath at all and could push on further if my damn legs would keep moving

I'm thinking about moving to running twice a day for a bit since the legs have so little endurance, might build them up more quickly.

Bevo · 12-03-2011, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troyguitar

Well after ....ing up my knee during my first attempt at running, probably from overdoing it, I had to quit and let it heal for a few weeks. Just started up again after Thanksgiving at the same speeds but about half the distance and I don't quite feel like I'm going to die afterward now

What I've noticed, though, is that my legs get worn out and start locking up long before my heart rate gets terribly high. I need a better monitor, but I'm running (jogging really, 10 min mile speed) somewhere around 120bpm. I'm hardly out of breath at all and could push on further if my damn legs would keep moving

I'm thinking about moving to running twice a day for a bit since the legs have so little endurance, might build them up more quickly.

Nope, that will be worse!
Give it some time and only run every other day, its muscles and like in body building you need to give them time to heal and get stronger.

For me it goes in cycles, my legs are stronger than my cardio or the other way around.

10 min mile is a pretty fast pace if your just starting, drop down to a 10:30 for your next run and see if it helps.
What your doing is called LSD, long slow distance. This builds the endurance into your body, once it gets a good base your 10 min mile will be super easy.

Murmel · 12-03-2011, 05:05 PM

Am I the only one here who can't be arsed to run for more than 10 minutes while on a treadmill at the gym? It's so boring, I wanna hit the weights damnit

Outdoors is another story, then I run till' my body won't let me anymore.

Infamous Impact · 12-03-2011, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murmel

Am I the only one here who can't be arsed to run for more than 10 minutes while on a treadmill at the gym? It's so boring, I wanna hit the weights damnit

Outdoors is another story, then I run till' my body won't let me anymore.

I usually get someone to drop me off at the gym, lift weights, and run the 3 miles home. Much better than 45 minutes of cardio inside.

troyguitar · 12-04-2011, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murmel

Am I the only one here who can't be arsed to run for more than 10 minutes while on a treadmill at the gym? It's so boring, I wanna hit the weights damnit

I find weights boring. I like to hit the treadmill and just get lost in thought... running outside takes too much concentration.

Bevo · 12-04-2011, 07:43 AM

Troy, the other day I went for a night run and I heard all this stuff like trees breaking and people screaming and growling, this was off a path very close to a street..Let just say I ran very fast for a very long time LOL!!

Just get dropped off in the bad part of town with a bright gold jacket and a dollar sign on the back, that will give you a workout eh!

I also have a gym membership, what a waste of money, I never go!
There is one close to me that has a pool and is where all the hotties work out, that would be more entertaining for sure but more money again..

Infamous Impact · 12-04-2011, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troyguitar

I find weights boring. I like to hit the treadmill and just get lost in thought... running outside takes too much concentration.

It's different for everyone, I can't stand cardio machines, I'd much rather do something productive like get my strength up and then run to an actual place.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bevo

Troy, the other day I went for a night run and I heard all this stuff like trees breaking and people screaming and growling, this was off a path very close to a street..Let just say I ran very fast for a very long time LOL!!

Just get dropped off in the bad part of town with a bright gold jacket and a dollar sign on the back, that will give you a workout eh!

I also have a gym membership, what a waste of money, I never go!
There is one close to me that has a pool and is where all the hotties work out, that would be more entertaining for sure but more money again..

I wish my town was that exciting... The scariest thing here is the weather.

troyguitar · 12-04-2011, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bevo

Nope, that will be worse!
Give it some time and only run every other day, its muscles and like in body building you need to give them time to heal and get stronger.

For me it goes in cycles, my legs are stronger than my cardio or the other way around.

10 min mile is a pretty fast pace if your just starting, drop down to a 10:30 for your next run and see if it helps.
What your doing is called LSD, long slow distance. This builds the endurance into your body, once it gets a good base your 10 min mile will be super easy.

These aren't long slow distance they are more like short slow distance. I'm talking 1.5 miles per run (15 minutes) - that's why I'm considering moving to twice a day so I'll at least be up to 3 miles. I did it one time last week and did not feel any worse the next day so will probably try it again tomorrow. It's either that or start increasing the distance or pace on the once-a-day runs, we'll see.

Keep in mind I'm not a total beginner, just restarting after a long break. I used to run a 5:45 mile and 20:00 5k back in the day. 10 minute miles feel ungodly slow

Bevo · 12-04-2011, 06:00 PM

Troy just listen to your body then.
I would go longer myself before doing two a day, but that may be better for you.

Your problem is you remember your old pace, thats hard to get around. Try to just enjoy the run and not think of the old days.

NickCormier · 12-05-2011, 10:04 PM

wow running is a bitch.

I just started working out again after like. a really bad 4 years. I lived on my own for the first time, went to school (so stress thru the roof) and just ate all processed food/"comfort" food for basically 2 years straight with no exercise.. Went from a fit 180 to 230 during that time.

I just got accepted to the Canadian Forces at the end of Oct, with my basic training starting in Mid-January, so while I've been trying to fix my diet/exercising lightly the past few months, I only took it up a full notch at the start of November. Within one month, my upper body strength is back to where it used to be (shouldnt be an issue for the CF), im down to 210 (20lbs in one month) and diet is going great, but running is the hardest part.

I find at this point, my legs are conditioned back to where I am ok for it, but the hard part is the breathing. My lungs just suck, and probably doesnt help its usually -10 degrees when I go running (at 5AM every morning) so my lungs burn from breathing in the cold air. I tried using a scarf but it keeps falling off/getting in the way ugh.

Well, just gotta keep at it, hopefully another month of doing this everyday will get me to where I need to be for basic training. Or at least enough to not be totally embarassed lol

Bevo · 12-06-2011, 08:12 AM

Nick, good on you for that big loss!

When it's that cold out I cover my neck really well with out covering my mouth, this keeps my lungs from freezing.
You can also get a balaclava sp? That only covers your mouth but those suck for me.

Infamous Impact · 12-06-2011, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickCormier

wow running is a bitch.

I just started working out again after like. a really bad 4 years. I lived on my own for the first time, went to school (so stress thru the roof) and just ate all processed food/"comfort" food for basically 2 years straight with no exercise.. Went from a fit 180 to 230 during that time.

I just got accepted to the Canadian Forces at the end of Oct, with my basic training starting in Mid-January, so while I've been trying to fix my diet/exercising lightly the past few months, I only took it up a full notch at the start of November. Within one month, my upper body strength is back to where it used to be (shouldnt be an issue for the CF), im down to 210 (20lbs in one month) and diet is going great, but running is the hardest part.

I find at this point, my legs are conditioned back to where I am ok for it, but the hard part is the breathing. My lungs just suck, and probably doesnt help its usually -10 degrees when I go running (at 5AM every morning) so my lungs burn from breathing in the cold air. I tried using a scarf but it keeps falling off/getting in the way ugh.

Well, just gotta keep at it, hopefully another month of doing this everyday will get me to where I need to be for basic training. Or at least enough to not be totally embarassed lol

Like Bevo said, wear a balaclava or some kind of face protection in the cold. Also, always breathe in through your stomach, it's much more efficient than your lungs. Don't just do it for running either, it helps with everything. It feels weird at first (you probably haven't done it since you were a baby), but after a while you'll be able to do it in your sleep.

NickCormier · 12-06-2011, 06:23 PM

Yea I gotta check out some running stores soon anyways, and pick up some actual running shoes. I use my dads shoes right now since all mine are completely flat skateboarding shoes, and it helps tremendously even though my dads shoes are not "running" shoes, just normal shoes with shape to them. I have one of those arch problems in my feet (forget what its called), so gotta find something to accomidate for that also. I'll also look into face protection.

Also; infamous_impact you talk about breathing in through your stomach.. kinda confused by that.. Do you mean just making sure my breaths are long and reach all the way down my lungs rather than short rapid breaths within my lungs? Whats the word on breathing through your nose? I keep hearing people say you should try to only breathe through your nose while running, as it tires you out less or something. Any advice on that? Right now, I start out with my nose but eventually go into puffing-heavy mouth breathing lol (obviously not good)

NickCormier · 12-06-2011, 07:53 PM

ooo another question.. What is better; Running once a day, or running twice or three times a day splitting up that time?

Cause so far, I find it hard to go for long periods of time running.. so I've been like going when I wake up, and 2-3 hours before I goto sleep. Is that good or should I try to go all in one session?

I've been using this "Couch potato to 5K" website as a basis, yet I ramped it up to 5 days a week, at two times per day (im on week 2, since I only found the site last week)

http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml

Bevo · 12-07-2011, 06:10 AM

Put your hand on your belly and try to lift it when you breath, doing this fills your lungs.

Breathing through your nose only is weird, not sure if I would ever do that. My heart rate when I run even easy makes me need to breathe through my mouth.
The only thing other breathing related is to blow or force your air out and not worry about getting it back. Forcing it will clear the lungs, your body will suck in all the air it wants.

Forgot about deep breathing, when your tired breath in until you feel like your blowing up a ballon. Do that a few times and it will calm you down and slow your heart rate.

Running in your dad shoes is bad, you go get your own mister!

NickCormier · 12-07-2011, 07:37 AM

Sorry I should of mentioned, my dad and I have the exact same size, for shoes and clothes.. so his pairs of shoes fit perfect. I borrow his steel-toes often when I have to do some jobs. Obviously though the problem is with the archs, so I do need a good running pair, but right now its the same as my own shoes which are totally flat (not good for running at all)

I'll work on the breathing stuff, thanks

Bevo · 12-07-2011, 03:40 PM

Nick, take your shoes off and lay a piece of paper on the floor, wet your feet with a cloth and step on the paper with all your weight, sit down and pull the paper off.
Or just watch this video to get an idea. Take This Simple Test To Learn Your Foot Type

This will tell you all you need to know and what to do about it.

SirMyghin · 12-07-2011, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickCormier

Sorry I should of mentioned, my dad and I have the exact same size, for shoes and clothes.. so his pairs of shoes fit perfect. I borrow his steel-toes often when I have to do some jobs. Obviously though the problem is with the archs, so I do need a good running pair, but right now its the same as my own shoes which are totally flat (not good for running at all)

I'll work on the breathing stuff, thanks

You are over thinking this one, the best way to run is barefoot, no shoes at all, it allows proper, natural motion.

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11-28-2011, 01:22 PM	#226
Murmel Fapping to J-rock Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hotgirl-City, Sweden Posts: 3,175 Thanked: 34 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Man, just started running (and working out) this week again after about 2 months of doing nothing. It's pretty fascinating how fast you loose cardio, I can't run nearly as far. On the other hand, my arms seem to be stronger than ever Schecters don't have baseball bat necks. Get the .... over it. "I think this mistake was the equivalent of a 6000 foot tall cock bukkake tsunami-ing Tokyo." -metallisuk Shono, forever and always.

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11-30-2011, 02:28 PM	#230
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11-28-2011, 05:15 PM	#228
Bevo SS.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 2,111 Thanked: 19 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Right on guys to get back at it or start to run! I highly recommend if your close to a running store to get involved in a running group. Lots of really great people run and no jokes there are more woman than men! One girl in our group does not know that a white thong and super thin black tights..every weekend! Thank god she is my speed so I get to run behind her LOL!!! The social aspect of the group run is very fun, it makes the distance goes by super fast and makes you want run every time, try it..its free and a great way to meet people!

11-30-2011, 03:07 AM	#229
Cabinet :O Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Deutschland Posts: 1,072 Thanked: 50 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've got back on running too. I ran 14:30 today and when I stopped and stretched after that I developed a weird pain in my left leg. It's above my achilles tendon but below the calf. It feels tight and can make it difficult to walk. I assume I just pulled something but I'm not so sure.

12-03-2011, 05:05 PM	#235
Murmel Fapping to J-rock Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hotgirl-City, Sweden Posts: 3,175 Thanked: 34 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Am I the only one here who can't be arsed to run for more than 10 minutes while on a treadmill at the gym? It's so boring, I wanna hit the weights damnit Outdoors is another story, then I run till' my body won't let me anymore. Schecters don't have baseball bat necks. Get the .... over it. "I think this mistake was the equivalent of a 6000 foot tall cock bukkake tsunami-ing Tokyo." -metallisuk Shono, forever and always.

12-04-2011, 07:43 AM	#238
Bevo SS.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 2,111 Thanked: 19 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Troy, the other day I went for a night run and I heard all this stuff like trees breaking and people screaming and growling, this was off a path very close to a street..Let just say I ran very fast for a very long time LOL!! Just get dropped off in the bad part of town with a bright gold jacket and a dollar sign on the back, that will give you a workout eh! I also have a gym membership, what a waste of money, I never go! There is one close to me that has a pool and is where all the hotties work out, that would be more entertaining for sure but more money again..

12-04-2011, 06:00 PM	#241
Bevo SS.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 2,111 Thanked: 19 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Troy just listen to your body then. I would go longer myself before doing two a day, but that may be better for you. Your problem is you remember your old pace, thats hard to get around. Try to just enjoy the run and not think of the old days.

12-05-2011, 10:04 PM	#242
NickCormier Carvin User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Moncton/Halifax Posts: 4,963 Thanked: 91 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	wow running is a bitch. I just started working out again after like. a really bad 4 years. I lived on my own for the first time, went to school (so stress thru the roof) and just ate all processed food/"comfort" food for basically 2 years straight with no exercise.. Went from a fit 180 to 230 during that time. I just got accepted to the Canadian Forces at the end of Oct, with my basic training starting in Mid-January, so while I've been trying to fix my diet/exercising lightly the past few months, I only took it up a full notch at the start of November. Within one month, my upper body strength is back to where it used to be (shouldnt be an issue for the CF), im down to 210 (20lbs in one month) and diet is going great, but running is the hardest part. I find at this point, my legs are conditioned back to where I am ok for it, but the hard part is the breathing. My lungs just suck, and probably doesnt help its usually -10 degrees when I go running (at 5AM every morning) so my lungs burn from breathing in the cold air. I tried using a scarf but it keeps falling off/getting in the way ugh. Well, just gotta keep at it, hopefully another month of doing this everyday will get me to where I need to be for basic training. Or at least enough to not be totally embarassed lol

12-06-2011, 08:12 AM	#243
Bevo SS.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 2,111 Thanked: 19 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Nick, good on you for that big loss! When it's that cold out I cover my neck really well with out covering my mouth, this keeps my lungs from freezing. You can also get a balaclava sp? That only covers your mouth but those suck for me.

12-06-2011, 06:23 PM	#245
NickCormier Carvin User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Moncton/Halifax Posts: 4,963 Thanked: 91 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Yea I gotta check out some running stores soon anyways, and pick up some actual running shoes. I use my dads shoes right now since all mine are completely flat skateboarding shoes, and it helps tremendously even though my dads shoes are not "running" shoes, just normal shoes with shape to them. I have one of those arch problems in my feet (forget what its called), so gotta find something to accomidate for that also. I'll also look into face protection. Also; infamous_impact you talk about breathing in through your stomach.. kinda confused by that.. Do you mean just making sure my breaths are long and reach all the way down my lungs rather than short rapid breaths within my lungs? Whats the word on breathing through your nose? I keep hearing people say you should try to only breathe through your nose while running, as it tires you out less or something. Any advice on that? Right now, I start out with my nose but eventually go into puffing-heavy mouth breathing lol (obviously not good)

12-06-2011, 07:53 PM	#246
NickCormier Carvin User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Moncton/Halifax Posts: 4,963 Thanked: 91 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	ooo another question.. What is better; Running once a day, or running twice or three times a day splitting up that time? Cause so far, I find it hard to go for long periods of time running.. so I've been like going when I wake up, and 2-3 hours before I goto sleep. Is that good or should I try to go all in one session? I've been using this "Couch potato to 5K" website as a basis, yet I ramped it up to 5 days a week, at two times per day (im on week 2, since I only found the site last week) http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml

12-07-2011, 06:10 AM	#247
Bevo SS.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 2,111 Thanked: 19 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Put your hand on your belly and try to lift it when you breath, doing this fills your lungs. Breathing through your nose only is weird, not sure if I would ever do that. My heart rate when I run even easy makes me need to breathe through my mouth. The only thing other breathing related is to blow or force your air out and not worry about getting it back. Forcing it will clear the lungs, your body will suck in all the air it wants. Forgot about deep breathing, when your tired breath in until you feel like your blowing up a ballon. Do that a few times and it will calm you down and slow your heart rate. Running in your dad shoes is bad, you go get your own mister!

12-07-2011, 07:37 AM	#248
NickCormier Carvin User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Moncton/Halifax Posts: 4,963 Thanked: 91 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Sorry I should of mentioned, my dad and I have the exact same size, for shoes and clothes.. so his pairs of shoes fit perfect. I borrow his steel-toes often when I have to do some jobs. Obviously though the problem is with the archs, so I do need a good running pair, but right now its the same as my own shoes which are totally flat (not good for running at all) I'll work on the breathing stuff, thanks

12-07-2011, 03:40 PM	#249
Bevo SS.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 2,111 Thanked: 19 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Nick, take your shoes off and lay a piece of paper on the floor, wet your feet with a cloth and step on the paper with all your weight, sit down and pull the paper off. Or just watch this video to get an idea. Take This Simple Test To Learn Your Foot Type This will tell you all you need to know and what to do about it.

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