[Ojinomoto]

Originally Posted by Labrie

There is no "natural" fat burner per se but regardless, supplements and the like always fall into the stereotype of being "bad" for you. A lot of people associate supplements with steroids etc and yet they'll go eat fast food or smoke which imo is a lot worse for you. I don't mean to sound like an asshole but just do a little research before you make an opinion on something.

If you're healthy, eat well and know what you're looking for, there's no reason imo to be scared of supplements. I don't use fat burners because I'm trying to gain weight. I do however take protein and vegetable supplements (among other things) simply because I can't afford to buy 6-8 servings of vegetables a day and 200grams of protein a day. Nothing replaces a good diet and exercise but there are things out there to help you along with it.

Oh no, I was just being dumb for the most part.
Unnatural things like fat burners just freak me out.

Totally agree with this.

[Universalis]

Originally Posted by Jason

Carbs keep em complex not simple. IE: Whole wheat bread,Brown Rice,Oatmeal and Sweet potatoes or red potatoes VS White bread,white rice and regular white or yellow potatoes.

The reason for this is complex carbs have more fiber in them and take longer to break down in your body ad keep your blood sugar stable. Simple or fast digesting carbs have much less fiber and cause your blood sugar to spike and you will be more likely to store these as fat instead of burning them. You will also have a "crash" and alot of times get a sweet craving.

I totally disagree. Maybe it's just because of my experience, but I would never suggest complex carbs to someone who's not an athlete.
Your explanation is absolutely correct, don't get me wrong. But I simply would have suggest simple carbs in lower amounts, since we all agree about the "split-your-daily-food-intake-in-5-or-6-meals-a-day".

[VicerExciser]

thanks darren

but anyone got tips on building arm muscle?

[Labrie]

Originally Posted by VicerExciser

thanks darren

but anyone got tips on building arm muscle?

For arms I do pyramid sets of everything. Standing free weights, I curl like a set of 40's then 30's then 25's (no break in between). Do a few sets of those, then do the same pyramid while sitting down on an incline. That's mostly for biceps but there are a ton of different exercises for the rest of your arms. The main thing that I focus on is do everything in pyramid sets, either heavy to light or light to heavy.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by Universalis

I totally disagree. Maybe it's just because of my experience, but I would never suggest complex carbs to someone who's not an athlete.
Your explanation is absolutely correct, don't get me wrong. But I simply would have suggest simple carbs in lower amounts, since we all agree about the "split-your-daily-food-intake-in-5-or-6-meals-a-day".

Why? Would care to explain to me please?

[Labrie]

Whole wheat or brown is always better than white. Why would it matter if you're an athlete or not?

[Jason]

Originally Posted by Labrie

Whole wheat or brown is always better than white. Why would it matter if you're an athlete or not?

Thats what I can't figure out.. But im curious as to hear what he says.. When it comes to food and nutrition I'm always oen to listen.

[Nerina]

Apparently athletes are supposed to eat simple carbs, esp right after a really gruesome workout, because they are replacing all the glucose they burned off, and they burn carbs quickly anyway so they dont have the problem of it turning to fat......for "normal" people, all simple carbs do is spike ur blood sugar level, then it plummets, and you crave more, and even eating simple carbs in small amounts throughout the day dosent solve the problem, the excess you dont burn off still ends up as fat.

My cousin is has a PhD in nutrition.....

[Jason]

Originally Posted by Nerina

Apparently athletes are supposed to eat simple carbs, esp right after a really gruesome workout, because they are replacing all the glucose they burned off, and they burn carbs quickly anyway so they dont have the problem of it turning to fat......for "normal" people, all simple carbs do is spike ur blood sugar level, then it plummets, and you crave more, and even eating simple carbs in small amounts throughout the day dosent solve the problem, the excess you dont burn off still ends up as fat.

My cousin is has a PhD in nutrition.....

Exactly..and he is saying the opposite

[Universalis]

Oh. I confused simple with complex carbs. So that's why I fucked up, my bad! Your statement is correct indeed.