[Jason]

Originally Posted by David

Oh, and other drugs... fuck those drugs. Sure you get a "high", but you also get a huge low. Anything with a huge low, I stay away from.

Alcohol.

[nitelightboy]

I'm a binge drinker. I'll go a few months without a drop, then I down everything in my sights for a month, then stop, etc...

[Dylan7620]

Originally Posted by Dormant

. It was a brilliant course as it outlined the sheer highs and joys of taking drugs that were possible but also showed the catastrophic effects it can have on your prefrontal lobes. It displayed a balanced argument unlike the drug propaganda that society and our governments feed us. I think everyone should be given this education.

sounds very cool! a lot of people don't know anything about drugs and make assumtions based on propoganda.

for example. going through my "expeiremental stage" i was introduced to cocaine. my whole life i heard all the negative stuff, from D.A.R.E. class to TV to anytime i ever heard of it really. all you hear is that its "real bad stuff" but until you really understand the effects of it and what it does to you, you cannot even begin to concieve WHY its bad for you. i had a great time for about 30-45 minutes chattin up a storm, life was a big party...

then the "come down" starts to kick in. and if you've never had one lets just say i'd trade it for a hangover anyday. just as fast as things went up they went down, all of a sudden life sucked, i didn't want to say a word to anybody, headache & teeth grinding, everything irritates you and you can't go to sleep for the life of you. and this is just after one fatty line. all you can think about is taking another line.

but the worst part is, you'll have to snort twice as much to get nearly as high as the first time and the comedown is even worse. its all one fucked up rollercoaster ride that you do not want to go on.

my opinion on weed is that it's pretty harmless, much less so than drinking. when was the last time someone took too many bong tokes, threw up all over and had to go to the hospital? Dr. Dru has stated that smoking pot (aside from the mind effects) is less harmful than cigs even. there has been no real research that shows that it's related to haert desease or lung cancer like cigs have. even the pamphlets at college state otherwise. why? propoganda. don't belive everything you read.

and nicotene is not only the most addictive but the most deadly. theres almost none in cigarettes. if you put one drop of pure nicotene on your tougne you would die. thats why theres very trace amounts of it in cigs. and if you've ever gotten sick off of a cigar then you know thatd be a horrible way to die

[Drew]

Originally Posted by Metal Ken

Sometimes people just do it for the hell of it.

This is pretty much spot on.

I look at drugs the same way I look at any other lifestyle choice. The way I see it, it's not really my business which choices other people make, provided their choices don't effect me. If someone in a band I like happens to like the occasional line of coke before he hits stage, more power to him. If a buddy of mine does, whatever. It's just when, like any lifestyle choice, it begins to have a destructive impact of a friend of mine that I feel it's my place to get involved. This is just as true of a friend with a burgeoning drug problem as it is a friend who won't go out on nights The West Wing, even a West Wing rerun, is on TV. In either case, intervention is in order for the guy's own good.

Sure I'm making a flippant argument here as I've never actually heard anyone dying from too many West Wing reruns, but you get the point - what people want to do is their business and it's only your place to judge them when it begins to impact others in their life. "Drugs are bad, m'kay?" is an incredibly two-dimensional picture of what's a very three (and arguably four) dimensional situation.

Myself, I don't know if I can think of a single person, myself included, who hasn't at one point in their life used a "drug" in some sense of the word recreationally. I don't see that as a problem, or even necessarily a bad thing. It's when your own actions begin to influence others that it's a problem and that it becomes my business.

And the myth that drugs are good for musicians can't be completely discounted - Parker was done in by heroin, but in the process completely changed the face of modern jazz. Is that a fair tradeoff? And while this is highly debatable, I personally feel that there were only moments when a sober SRV could touch the early work of a drunk-and-coked-up SRV. How much of that was the influence of fame, and how much of that was sobriety? I have no idea. I'm not advocating becoming a cokehead if you want to play blues, but I also won't categorically state that there wasn't some sort of connection there, because I think the picture is far too complex.

[David]

Originally Posted by .jason.

Alcohol.

That's not a huge low though. That's just a hangover.

[nitelightboy]

Originally Posted by David

That's not a huge low though. That's just a hangover.

Obviously you've never drank enough.

[lachrymose]

i think once you realise drugs & alcohol will never help you escape from your shit, you can begin to enjoy them for what they're worth.

i've never done anything too heavy, but i probably wouldn't turn most things down. I do love to get drunk alone though, it's quite magical to be away from everyones voices, and finally away from your own voices. they need to take a break sometimes.

we're fundamentally all drug addicts anyway, where else do you think the 'good' feelings come from after eating/exercising/fucking? some magical place?

this is trying it from a different angle, and if it weren't for drugs some of the best songs would have never been written.

who gives a shite if it shortens your life, quality over quantity.

Infact i think all drugs should be done alone and or in the pressence of a best friend, it's not the time to be socially interacting and making decisions that you can't be held accountable for, thus fucking with other peoples lives. 9 valium and a half bottle of rum later, I become a totally different person that I just cannot replicate 24/7 for anyone.

That sounded so desperate housewives

like when i have a beer and start vacuuming and doing the dishes trying to stamp out the thought of my husband banging his secretary, i drop a vicodin or 3 then crash on the couch to watch some oprah whilst sipping on a mug of cask wine

sounds kinda fun actually,

[Naren]

I've always been interested in drugs and the effects of them. I don't mean interested in a "I want to try all the drugs out there" type of way. More in an informational way. I did a lot of research on drugs and I probably know more scientifically about any drug than a huge addict. I, however, have no personal experience with any "drug" other than pot　(I don't consider cigarettes or alcohol to be "drugs", but they do have similar effects and cause similar amounts of damage), so I don't have personal experience with drugs. Because of this interest, I've written about 5 different short stories that dealt with drugs. In one story I wrote entitled "Pattern Against User", a couple does drugs together one night and the girl overdoses, dying as a result.

I feel it's best to avoid drugs all together. But, if you feel you have to do drugs (can't imagine why...), do it in moderation or you might find yourself dead, majorly physically or mentally screwed up, or just out of a hell of a lot of money.

As for the original post, the reason why bands like this do drugs is EXTREMELY obvious. Like the famous saying YM quoted, "Sex, Drugs, and Rock 'N' Roll." That pretty much sums it up. Almost all of the bands I've been in in the US had at least one member who did drugs (none of the bands I've been in in Japan have had any members who have even touched drugs). Drugs, to me, seem a somewhat big part of the "rock"/"metal" world (as well as a part of Blues, Jazz, etc.).

[Brett89]

I don't think it's a part of the music world... it's only party of the people who use it... I think. Maybe I'm fucking wrong, because I don't know how drugs work and I don't realy know why people use it... but I still say that NO... I don't tolerate drugs, and I don't care that it's good for some one or not, I think it's poisen and on one sould use them.

[lachrymose]

I used to be uptight, you'll stop giving a shit eventually and realise that so many things poison your body passively that drugs are probably the least of your worries.