[Jongpil Yun]

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G||--------3-----------3-----|--5h-6---------------3--2--*||
D||--------------------------|---------------------------*||
A||--1-----------1-----------|----------------------------||
E||--------------------------|--4-------------1-----------||


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I can't play this worth crap. Fingering kills me

Anyone offer some tips? Just starting the whole fingerpicking thing and I thought this would be something easy to start off with. And yet it's pwning me.

[subatomicsatan]

I can give you some tips tomorrow as I have to go to bed now.

[Jongpil Yun]

So yeah, that's the only Shadows Fall song I've heard (Guitar Hero II lol), so I went and listened to some other ones.

Man that's some pretty bad guitar tone they have... EMGs through Krank amps. No wonder.

PS: 100th proast

[Regor]

What songs did you listen to? Because 'EMGs thru Kranks' isn't what they recorded with.

The Art of Balance, Jon Donias used a JCM800 with a Korg FX pedal, and Matt used a Marshall Mode 4
The War Within they used Marshalls mixed with a Bad Cat amp. (Frankly, I loved this guitar tone, which is what is on The Light that Blinds) They didn't pick up the Krank deal until after The War Within was recorded.

I have no info for what they used on Threads of Life.

[subatomicsatan]

OK. Some questions first...I'll post fingerings when I get home and actually have a guitar in my hands.

Am I right to assume that your version of fingerstyle requires the use of a pick? If so, the pick must be held with the thumb and the index finger.

I nearly all cases, the bass note will be sounded with the pick (or the thumb if in true fingerstyle), and the upper notes will be sounded by your ring and middle fingers.

Try this: hold a standard open D chord: ---0232

Now, with your pick, sound the open D string (4th). Then, with your middle finger, sound the D in the chord (2nd string, 3rd fret), then the F# (1st string, 2nd fret) with your ring finger. Then with the pick (thumb) sound the A (3rd string, 2nd fret), then the D and F#. And repeat. See example one.

You don't want to get into a rut and you'll need to develop finger independence (on both hands, but let's focus on the right hand, first), so go to example 2 and keep an eye on the right hand fingering.

Example 3 adds melody and bass notes sounding at the same time.

Start slowly, focusing on getting a clean and consistent sound. Classical guitarists grow the fingernails on their right hand to facilitate picking as well as to be able to alter the dynamics of each picked note. You should consider doing this as well. They don't have to be very long...I tend to have mine a little bit longer than may be typical, but do what works for you.

T = Thumb
M = Middle
A = ring

Example 1:
     T  M  A  T  M  A  
E||--------2--------2--------
B||-----3--------3-----------
G||-----------2--------------
D||--0-----------------------
A||--------------------------
E||--------------------------


Example 2:
     T  A  M  T  A  M  
E||-----2--------2-----------
B||--------3--------3--------
G||-----------2--------------
D||--0-----------------------
A||--------------------------
E||--------------------------

Example 3:
     A        A        
     T  M  A  T  M  A  
E||--2-----3--2-----2--------
B||-----3--------3-----------
G||-----------2--------------
D||--0-----------------------
A||--------------------------
E||--------------------------

Note that the fingerings will be different if you are not using a pick!

Crap! Example 3 should be this:

Example 3:
     A        A        
     T  M  A  T  M  A  
E||--2-----2--2-----2--------
B||-----3--------3-----------
G||-----------2--------------
D||--0-----------------------
A||--------------------------
E||--------------------------

[Regor]

Your biggest problem is you're playing it in standard tuning. It should be in Drop-C.

[subatomicsatan]

Originally Posted by Regor

Your biggest problem is you're playing it in standard tuning. It should be in Drop-C.

Hahahahaha. Oh, man.

Well, if that's the case, I'm going to hold off on this until I know the tab Jongpil Yun posted is the real thing.

[Jongpil Yun]

Originally Posted by Regor

What songs did you listen to? Because 'EMGs thru Kranks' isn't what they recorded with.

The Art of Balance, Jon Donias used a JCM800 with a Korg FX pedal, and Matt used a Marshall Mode 4
The War Within they used Marshalls mixed with a Bad Cat amp. (Frankly, I loved this guitar tone, which is what is on The Light that Blinds) They didn't pick up the Krank deal until after The War Within was recorded.

I have no info for what they used on Threads of Life.

I listened to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0nsaOhaisw (In Effigy)

You can actually see me in the comments talking about it

Got the info on what gear they use from http://www.shadowsfall.com/frame_gear.php

Anyways, I use thumb/index/middle/ring fingers, and I've been growing out my fingernails specifically for that purpose lately.

When I originally got the tab it was in Drop D, but it didn't seem like transposing the bass string up a whole step made it any harder (or easier, I'm just too lazy to change tunings).