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Old 03-11-2008, 01:45 AM   #21
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Old 03-11-2008, 03:07 AM   #22
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Yep, and it gets better. One of their main arguments is that the stars in the background of the photos are fake, since they don't twinkle like we see them here on Earth, what with an atmosphere to distort the images and all...
Actually, it's that because there are no stars in the background of the photos, they're fake. I'm a big fan of Phil Plait, the Bad Astronomer, as well as the Skeptic's Guide to the Universe so I know more about moon hoaxers than most sane people should.

The solution is twofold: First, it was daytime on the moon. Duh. You can't see stars during daylight on the moon for the same reason you can't on earth. The sun's too fucking bright!

If that weren't enough, the shutter times they were using on the cameras were insufficient to capture starlight anyways.


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Old 03-11-2008, 09:59 AM   #24
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Hey, this guy can sweep almost as good as Rustie Coolie! Oh wait, he's using his fingers, that's cheating...



I'll bet he learned how to play harmonics from Zakk Wylde.

(the chord stuff at 2:15 is kind of scary... Eliot Fisk was Segovia's favorite student.)



("chords" at 2:30.)

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Old 03-11-2008, 10:55 AM   #25
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Old 03-11-2008, 11:10 AM   #26
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I'm not a huge fan of super fast classical guitar. To me, the more expressive and flowing type of classical guitar is WAY more impressive, although that dude fucking rips
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Old 03-11-2008, 04:40 PM   #27
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Holy fucking shit, that Elliot Fisk video is astonishing! I used to play the theme from that piece (Paganini's Caprice 24) as a party piece at school, but never managed to master the whole thing. He even managed to nail the left-hand pizicato variation for fuck's sake!!!!

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Old 03-11-2008, 06:12 PM   #28
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Hey, this guy can sweep almost as good as Rustie Coolie! Oh wait, he's using his fingers, that's cheating...


I'll bet he learned how to play harmonics from Zakk Wylde.

(the chord stuff at 2:15 is kind of scary... Eliot Fisk was Segovia's favorite student.)


("chords" at 2:30.)
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I used to think the Fisk version sucked, but it's got a certain fire that's been growing on me. If you want to see some crazy shit, this is probably the hardest thing in the violin repertoire. IMO.

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Old 03-13-2008, 07:34 AM   #30
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Eliot Fisk is famous in the classical world for playing "too fast" and "sloppy", but what the heck, Paganini is all about showoff anyway! I have the Fisk recordings of all the Paganini caprices and his recordings of the Sonatas and Partitas for solo violin by Bach, and I do think his road race approach is a little unsuited to Bach. I'm totally into classical violin, concertos and all, and Fisk is the only one doing what he's doing - he's having fun, and he doesn't care if anyone likes it - like, my opinion matters to him? It's easy to imagine that if Fisk had just a tiny tweak in his background, he'd be playing a flying V with his teeth while the smokebombs went off.... Some people say Steve Vai plays too fast too.

My experience is that when another musician starts effusing about "taste" and "soul" and "touch" it means they got no chops - who doesn't like to haul ass? The reason Eliot Fisk pissed off so many other classical guitarists was that they had gotten fat and lazy playing the same old Sor and Tarrega and Rodrigo stuff that people'd been playing for 50 years, then Fisk came out playing Paganini, and Scarlatti harsichord pieces that he'd transcribed playing the left and right hand keyboard parts at the same time. Of course they were pissed, they had to start practicing again....

That Carmen piece is impressive, I'll have to track one down. I got real fanatic a few years back about reading through some violin concertos for structural reasons, they've got a narrative, really cinematic quality that I love. I'll bet John Petrucci would give his left nut to have the chops of Tchaikovsky, though it's a different kind of chops. The hardest concertos I found were some of the 20th Century ones like Sibelius and Prokofiev - the sheet music is like all accidentals, I couldn't make head or tail of it. It's not so much that it's fast, it just isn't in any key... They were writing with a lot of arbitrary, mathematical scale constructions like Stravinsky, anything to escape that tired ol' do-re-mi. I just can't read anything besides do-re-mi, I'm afraid it's not Sibelius's fault for being "too weird".... the shit sounds cool, for sure.
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