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Old 07-02-2007, 01:29 PM   #1
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Walking bass for guitar

Any ideas of how to do it?
I like when it is used with chromatics that are a half step of a chord tone, but I don't know exactly how I have to approach it. Which chord tones do I have to use?
More than songs, I would the explanation of how to construct the typical basslines, and how to use the chords.
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:42 PM   #2
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I'm still working at this to be honest. Basically you want a chord tone on the 1 and the 3, and a passing tone, be it a scale note or a chromatic note, on the 2 and the 4. Any chord tone is fine, but generally you want to avoid emphasising roots and fifths as that can sound a little stiff if you do it too much; thirds and sevenths are better.

That's basically it. It's a simple idea in theory, but can be hard to put into practice. I've found practicing simple changes (such as 2-5s) in each position is a great way to get a handle on it before approaching more complex changes.

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Old 07-02-2007, 05:41 PM   #3
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I'm still working at this to be honest. Basically you want a chord tone on the 1 and the 3, and a passing tone, be it a scale note or a chromatic note, on the 2 and the 4. Any chord tone is fine, but generally you want to avoid emphasising roots and fifths as that can sound a little stiff if you do it too much; thirds and sevenths are better.

That's basically it. It's a simple idea in theory, but can be hard to put into practice. I've found practicing simple changes (such as 2-5s) in each position is a great way to get a handle on it before approaching more complex changes.
Pretty much what you said, you also want to make your basslines lead into the chords that come up. You can do this chromatically or with a shared note in both chords.

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Old 07-02-2007, 09:40 PM   #4
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Pretty much what you said, you also want to make your basslines lead into the chords that come up. You can do this chromatically or with a shared note in both chords.
^This is where you should begin. Here's a really simple exercise demonstrating that concept. You use the bass notes to give it a bit of a groove. This is about as far as I go on subject. I've been working on trying to get the simultaneous walking bassline/guitar thing down for awhile now. Hope this helps you get started.

Code:
E||--------------------------|------------------
B||--------0--------2--------|-----3--------2---
G||--------0--------2--------|-----4--------2---
D||--------0--------2--------|-----4--------2---
A||--------------------------|-------------------
E||--0-----------2--------3--|-----------2------
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Thanks a lot guys!
I just discovered that using inversions are very cool.
For example, you have 4 beats of Fmaj7, so you play with the inversions (root, 2nd and 3rd) and it sounds nice, plus you can use notes of the scale.
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Old 07-03-2007, 12:48 PM   #6
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No problem man! Keep us posted with your progress, as I'm really interested in this style at the moment.

A thought...has anyone here tried Ron Carter's 'Building Jazz Basslines' book? Looks like it could be a good study aid, and obviously Ron Carter's the fucking man when it comes to this stuff.
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Hello,
You should check out Paul Musso's book: "Teaching Your Guitar to Walk" on Mel Bay. Chord tones? Start with the root on every downbeat then connect them chromatically, with arpeggios, or diatonically...voila, a solid bassline.
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Any ideas of how to do it?
I like when it is used with chromatics that are a half step of a chord tone, but I don't know exactly how I have to approach it. Which chord tones do I have to use?
More than songs, I would the explanation of how to construct the typical basslines, and how to use the chords.
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:48 AM   #8
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Hey, long time since I've been on here. This sheet I found on the 'net sums up walking lines quite well, obviously it is aimed directly at bass, but you can transfer the concepts to walking and comping on the guitar.

I'm currently working on this sort of thing for my 8 string...as a bassist I need more info on the comping as the walking comes fairly naturally to me.

Any more comping ideas? Not so much rhythmic placement, but more actual shapes to play over the walking line as I have gone as far as I can with diads. Ideally some nice 3 note shapes on the D-G-B on guitar so I can transfer it to my 8.
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:13 AM   #9
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I may as well post this here as well. Feedback/comments appreciated.

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Hey Mikey, long time no see!

Fucking awesome video! Beautiful chops and tone. It's inspired to me go practice a little now!

See, when I attempt this style, I have the reverse problem you describe; the comping's not too bad (although I really need to work at voice leading), but walking basslines still aren't very intuitive for me.

Regarding chords, have you experimented with drop 2 and 3 voicings?
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