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#3
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The Dark Wolf
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05-11-2006, 03:41 AM
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You'll keep this one... maybe a month.
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#5
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noodles
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05-16-2006, 02:53 PM
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Great review.
![]() Adding a tone knob is an easy mod, since that thing has the same huge control cavity that my Stars does. This should give you a good idea of a comfortable place to locate the extra knob. With my guitar, the original was in a very Friedman-esque spot. So, I made it the tone, and added a push/pull for the new volume knob. The JB-7 sounds great tapped. If you ever decided that you can't live with the EMG, but still love the guitar, you can get the pickup ring I used from Frets on the Net. Just drop Dave a line and ask for the 7-string EMG to passive conversion ring I used. |
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#8
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eaeolian
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05-16-2006, 03:46 PM
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#9
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angryman
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05-16-2006, 04:13 PM
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I really like the COW i tried to pick one up last september when i had a vacation in Orlando but could'nt get one shipped in time, just out of interest do you know how much the thru neck COW's are? With a bit of luck i'll be able to pick one up this september when I fly out to Orlando again.
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#11
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zimbloth
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05-16-2006, 05:07 PM
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I don't really think it's really worth it anymore. I've always liked neck-thrus, and have owned dozens of them, but my recent adventures with Ibanez, Music Mans, a Custom Shop Schecter and this Jackson have made me realize its not really a big deal. If I was building a custom guitar would I have it neck-thru? Of course. But it's definitely not something I miss. I still get all the punch and sustain I ever got, and in the case of the Ibanez and MM the upper fret access is the same. Bottom line is, neck-thrus are of course cooler, but the neck-thru version of this DCGL charges for $4,000 is not worth it over $699 just because its neck-thru (yes it's made in the USA, but Japanese luthiers are no slouches).
As for the mods you speak of, thanks for the info about the pickup rings, I may do that at some point. I don't want a tone knob or neck pickup though. I like it the way it is, very cool and simple. I have my other guitars for neck pickups. This won't be my main axe or anything. After another week or so of playing this, I'd like to add that this guitar balances very well. Not quite as well as the Ibanez or Petrucci, but close. Also the little contours that are hard to see in pics because it's all black are very sexy looking and add to its playability. I also really dig the headstock. I've NEVER been a fan of reverse headstocks but now my tune has definitely changed. And for hell of it, here's a pic when the flash failed to go off. Looks kinda cool anyways: ![]() |
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#12
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eaeolian
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05-16-2006, 07:01 PM
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Actually, the one at DCGL is $3100, last I asked.
Is there a difference? I guarantee it. Is it worth the price difference? Only the player can decide. The black COW is not as overpriced as it was originally - the prices I saw when it came out were about $100 higher - but the camo one's ridiculous. I wish they offered the red that his USA one is... |
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#13
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God Hand Apostle
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05-16-2006, 08:10 PM
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Yeah, that "camo" is lame. Simple red like the one you said would rule the school. I've been wanting a 6 string of this guitar for a while myself. Luckily, it's cheap too so I should have it by mid next month.
I wish that I could just make money and not have to pay rent, bills, and food. ![]() |
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#14
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zimbloth
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05-16-2006, 08:33 PM
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![]() ![]() I'm sure that one is a bit nicer, but for $4099? Give me a break. They have the same exact specs, woods, everything. The only difference is one is bolt-on, and one has sperzels. Not even the biggest Custom Shop Jackson fan can say the difference in quality is worth that kind of discrepancy in price. I'm sure the USA handmade one is made a little better, but from having many handmade Customs and having this DK7, I can say for sure the difference is MINUTE. |
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#15
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God Hand Apostle
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05-16-2006, 08:45 PM
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$4099
$3100 I dont care! For a 1 hum, 1 vol., no inlay, solid colour = NEVER! LTD could make that and sell it for $600. Then you'd have to get a fret job, but still make out like a bandit. You know what? I just noticed that the carvings are a tad deeper on the USA. USA Price justified! ![]() |
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Last edited by God Hand Apostle; 05-16-2006 at 08:48 PM..
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#16
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eaeolian
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05-16-2006, 08:56 PM
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#17
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zimbloth
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05-16-2006, 08:56 PM
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Nah it's pretty much the same. Anyways this isnt about whether you'd want one or not, it's just comparing two nearly identical guitars by two quality craftman... not a Custom Shop to Koreans or anything.
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It's a moot point anyways, because for well below those prices you could have Jackson (or anyone else) build your own Cusom Shop anyways. |
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Last edited by zimbloth; 05-16-2006 at 09:01 PM..
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#18
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eaeolian
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05-16-2006, 09:05 PM
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Someday, someone who's a big enough FF fan - or just wants a one-hum 7 string Soloist without the CS wait - will buy it. |
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#19
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zimbloth
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05-16-2006, 09:08 PM
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I already put the "unless someone's rich" disclaimer there. Unless money is of no consequence to someone, no one would buy those. It doesn't make sense. Thats why DCGL has had those for years and years. If they lower the price SIGNIFICANTLY, perhaps someone would buy it, but when you can get something almost identical for $699, it doesn't quite make a lot of sense.... especially when like you said, for half that money you could order your own custom with much better specs. Plus the guy overseeing the production of the higher end Japanese models is no slouch, theyre extremely well made, with superb attention to detail.
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#20
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eaeolian
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05-16-2006, 09:13 PM
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My opinion is still different that yours - for those specs, I'd buy the USA one, even at that price, and I'm not rich. I just think there's a difference between a Japan-built Jackson aimed at the sub-$1000 market and a USA-built Jackson made for an endorser. |
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#21
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zimbloth
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05-16-2006, 09:24 PM
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I know there's a difference between endorsee CS guitars and Japanese models, we agree. In THIS CASE, with THESE TWO MODELS, the difference would be minute. It's not like comparing an ESP Horizon III Custom to an LTD H-100. These are both nearly identical. Japanese made guitars are excellent. I've played several endorsee Ibanez guitars, and they certainly are nicer, but he got them for free. It was a stock RGA321 model ($1499) to a RGA Custom 321-like model. It looked exactly the same, the CS one was clearly a bit nicer, but the difference once again - was minute. I'm sure if he had to pay for them, and the difference was $3000, it would be an obvious choice.
I love USA made guitars, especially Custom Shop ones, like I said I've had many, but I think there comes a time when snobbery goes a little overboard. The DK7 is damn nice. It shreds, sounds great, has excellent fretwork and electronics (tho I'm not an EMG fan, both have these). The bolt-on neck doesn't hinder any tone or sustain. Sure it would have a somewhat different character if it were neck-thru, especially in the mid-range, but come on we're talking $699 to $3100-4100. I'm sorry if I'm sounding like a putz, I just can't imagine it being worth it to anybody barring having a ton of cash to blow. |
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#22
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eaeolian
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05-16-2006, 09:34 PM
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#23
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zimbloth
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05-16-2006, 09:36 PM
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Fair enough, and in 99% of cases I'd agree, I would want the CS one too... like I said I just think since theyre so similar, I'd rather have an extra $3000 grand left over and have basically the same thing. Especially when for those prices you could just get something way nicer.
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#24
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God Hand Apostle
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05-16-2006, 10:48 PM
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Or at least more "done out" is all I'm sayin. Like eaeolian said, I could order what I want and wait for it. To be really fair though, I have never replaced the good vibes from a guitar that came from my RR1. That guitars sound and playability set the bar.
The most I would pay for a new USA COW would be $1800. When you start getting to $2300, I'd get a Parker Fly Mojo. |
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