Tuning backup to standard and changing styles

danenachtrieb · 09-22-2009, 10:18 PM

dude i just realized the other day that in my bre core phase i was in when i bought a seven, I have never played a seven in standard tuning. seriously. as i keep pushing myself away from the whole "core" thing i realized HOLY SHIT i really like playing in standard. from now on im writing in standard fo sho. I guess with the whole deathcore thing, I was really into it because it was new(if you dont count suffocation

) and really heavy and it was very popular but now i've realized that it is a fad and im checking out before my band gets lumped in with it. actually lately ive been writng shit like cradle mixed with aborted. hope that turns out good. anybody else checking out of deathcore or feel what im saying?

Anthony · 09-22-2009, 10:44 PM

I'm the opposite haha. I can't write in standard for shit now if it's metal.

Triple7 · 09-22-2009, 11:34 PM

I switch back and forth all the time (gotta get a second 7), I love writing metal tunes in standard.

troyguitar · 09-22-2009, 11:42 PM

I've only ever played in standard except for my backup-backup 6-string which is tuned in 5ths. I really would like to spend more time with the 5ths tuning but have been way too busy lately.

mattofvengeance · 09-23-2009, 12:09 AM

I know most of the deathcore bands drop tune, but Winds of Plague, for the most part, play 6 strings in standard tuning FWIW.

Metalus · 09-23-2009, 12:54 AM

Cant forget about Unearth

Also, I think Whitechapel plays in Drop A

wannabguitarist · 09-23-2009, 12:59 AM

I don't see how you can get lumped into "-core" by playing in dropped tunings, sure the "-core" bands use those same tunings but they're "-core" because of their sound, not their tuning.

The majority of the metal stuff I write is in some sort of dropped tuning because I really like the interval it creates with the bottom 2 strings. Drop tuning hate is ridiculous

vigil785 · 09-23-2009, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wannabguitarist

I don't see how you can get lumped into "-core" by playing in dropped tunings, sure the "-core" bands use those same tunings but they're "-core" because of their sound, not their tuning.

The majority of the metal stuff I write is in some sort of dropped tuning because I really like the interval it creates with the bottom 2 strings. Drop tuning hate is ridiculous

+1

I used to always play in standard but when I first got into lamb of god I realised how much I liked writing in dropped tuning. Now I dont like writing in standard.

Bungle · 09-23-2009, 01:23 AM

I used to make my own tunings and stuff like that a few years back. Then I realised that it sucked having to change tunings every time I wanted to play a different song (it was that or get 15 guitars haha).

Now my sevens are in standard and my sixes are in standard most of the time too, maybe drop-D for certain songs and occasionally D standard if I've got the strings on for it.

Actually I just tried Dimebag's 1/4 step down tuning the other day (actually, tune down to Eb and then go up 40 cents) just for shits and giggles.

lucasreis · 09-23-2009, 12:03 PM

I prefer playing in standard. I used to be a dropped tuning whore back in the day but I prefer playin in standard nowadays. But I ocasionally play drop tunings.

abysmalrites · 09-23-2009, 02:45 PM

Yeah, drop tunings =/= 'core. They can make things a lot easier if you're playing extremely technical brutal death.

But, even though that is the case, I like my standard tunings.

-mouse- · 09-23-2009, 02:59 PM

i dont really like playing in standard... I have to at least be a half-step down to feel comfortable....

danenachtrieb · 09-23-2009, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abysmalrites

Yeah, drop tunings =/= 'core. They can make things a lot easier if you're playing extremely technical brutal death.

But, even though that is the case, I like my standard tunings.

I didnt mean to say they go hand in hand even though it definitely sounded that way, sorry. Im just saying my playing and writing are both changing severely.

TheAceOfSpades1 · 09-23-2009, 04:04 PM

After trying out numerous tunings I found my comfort zone is a half-step down from standard. That is what all my instruments are tuned to besides my Jeff Loomis signature 7-string which is in standard. (ironically Jeff himself plays a half-step down...)
I thought about the idea of getting a 6-string to tune to open D to play material from Opeth's "Ghost Reveries" album and see what I could do with that tuning but I don't have the money for that anytime soon.

All_¥our_Bass · 09-24-2009, 03:46 AM

Seeing as my only guitar that is a sixer has a F as it's lowest string, I don't think I'll be keeping my future 7 (or 7s) in standard.

abysmalrites · 09-24-2009, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danenachtrieb

I didnt mean to say they go hand in hand even though it definitely sounded that way, sorry. Im just saying my playing and writing are both changing severely.

It's all good. My other guitarist used to be stuck on drop tunings as well... then he joined my band and we play in A standard. He's big into the -core scene, especially since his other band plays in that genre. I agree with you - changing from drop exclusive playing to standard tunings can have a big effect on your playing.

Xanithon · 09-24-2009, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abysmalrites

Yeah, drop tunings =/= 'core. They can make things a lot easier if you're playing extremely technical brutal death.

Nile.
/thread

I love playing dropped tunings, its really fun to mess around in.

All_¥our_Bass · 09-27-2009, 11:56 AM

^ Yeah. Tool and Nile both play in dropped tunings-Drop D and Drop A, respectively.

But I do know what you mean about the guys who drop tune for no reason other than to do boring chugs with one fingered powerchords.

I play in an all fifths tuning, so I can do that all over the fretboard with little effort, but I really prefer to play other types of chords, because I've heard way too many powerchords. Yes, they are a great way to fill out the root note and sound great through distortion but they are very vanilla (to me at least).

As always, IMHO

Mindcrime1204 · 09-27-2009, 12:10 PM

I keep almost all my axes in standard... I jam with a lot of different people and its just easier that way for me. I have a 6 layin around in CGCFAD for the ones that are scared of 440

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09-22-2009, 10:18 PM	#1
danenachtrieb TheGuiltyUnpunished Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Wentzville, MO Posts: 539 Thanked: 26 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Tuning backup to standard and changing styles dude i just realized the other day that in my bre core phase i was in when i bought a seven, I have never played a seven in standard tuning. seriously. as i keep pushing myself away from the whole "core" thing i realized HOLY SHIT i really like playing in standard. from now on im writing in standard fo sho. I guess with the whole deathcore thing, I was really into it because it was new(if you dont count suffocation) and really heavy and it was very popular but now i've realized that it is a fad and im checking out before my band gets lumped in with it. actually lately ive been writng shit like cradle mixed with aborted. hope that turns out good. anybody else checking out of deathcore or feel what im saying?

09-22-2009, 10:44 PM	#2
Anthony dude you're a koala Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Nassau Long Island Posts: 4,738 Thanked: 55 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm the opposite haha. I can't write in standard for shit now if it's metal. Don't take anything I say here personally, I'm just here to talk about guitars while I'm not watching Brazzers.

09-22-2009, 11:34 PM	#3
Triple7 The Decepticon Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Yorktown,NY Posts: 3,094 Thanked: 43 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I switch back and forth all the time (gotta get a second 7), I love writing metal tunes in standard. https://soundcloud.com/brianharrigan

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09-23-2009, 12:09 AM	#5
mattofvengeance boots2asses Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 4,712 Thanked: 103 Feedback Score: 17 reviews	I know most of the deathcore bands drop tune, but Winds of Plague, for the most part, play 6 strings in standard tuning FWIW.

09-23-2009, 12:59 AM	#7
wannabguitarist SS Contributor Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego/El Dorado Hills CA Posts: 4,169 Thanked: 51 Feedback Score: 9 reviews	I don't see how you can get lumped into "-core" by playing in dropped tunings, sure the "-core" bands use those same tunings but they're "-core" because of their sound, not their tuning. The majority of the metal stuff I write is in some sort of dropped tuning because I really like the interval it creates with the bottom 2 strings. Drop tuning hate is ridiculous

09-23-2009, 01:23 AM	#9
Bungle Sir Roger Moore, KBE Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 1,292 Thanked: 27 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I used to make my own tunings and stuff like that a few years back. Then I realised that it sucked having to change tunings every time I wanted to play a different song (it was that or get 15 guitars haha). Now my sevens are in standard and my sixes are in standard most of the time too, maybe drop-D for certain songs and occasionally D standard if I've got the strings on for it. Actually I just tried Dimebag's 1/4 step down tuning the other day (actually, tune down to Eb and then go up 40 cents) just for shits and giggles.

09-23-2009, 12:03 PM	#10
lucasreis siersacul Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: São Paulo, Brazil Posts: 1,393 Thanked: 16 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I prefer playing in standard. I used to be a dropped tuning whore back in the day but I prefer playin in standard nowadays. But I ocasionally play drop tunings.

09-23-2009, 02:45 PM	#11
abysmalrites --- Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 639 Thanked: 12 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, drop tunings =/= 'core. They can make things a lot easier if you're playing extremely technical brutal death. But, even though that is the case, I like my standard tunings. These self-conceived walls close in upon us And we shall never see the light of day

09-23-2009, 02:59 PM	#12
-mouse- Such a strange numb Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lost Angels Posts: 511 Thanked: 28 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i dont really like playing in standard... I have to at least be a half-step down to feel comfortable....

09-23-2009, 04:04 PM	#14
TheAceOfSpades1 ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Hastings, MN Posts: 271 Thanked: 6 / 1 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	After trying out numerous tunings I found my comfort zone is a half-step down from standard. That is what all my instruments are tuned to besides my Jeff Loomis signature 7-string which is in standard. (ironically Jeff himself plays a half-step down...) I thought about the idea of getting a 6-string to tune to open D to play material from Opeth's "Ghost Reveries" album and see what I could do with that tuning but I don't have the money for that anytime soon.

09-24-2009, 03:46 AM	#15
All_¥our_Bass Army Without Borders Join Date: May 2006 Location: Zanzibar Land Posts: 6,983 Thanked: 81 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Seeing as my only guitar that is a sixer has a F as it's lowest string, I don't think I'll be keeping my future 7 (or 7s) in standard. No Nation. No Philosophy. No Ideology.

09-27-2009, 11:56 AM	#18
All_¥our_Bass Army Without Borders Join Date: May 2006 Location: Zanzibar Land Posts: 6,983 Thanked: 81 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ Yeah. Tool and Nile both play in dropped tunings-Drop D and Drop A, respectively. But I do know what you mean about the guys who drop tune for no reason other than to do boring chugs with one fingered powerchords. I play in an all fifths tuning, so I can do that all over the fretboard with little effort, but I really prefer to play other types of chords, because I've heard way too many powerchords. Yes, they are a great way to fill out the root note and sound great through distortion but they are very vanilla (to me at least). As always, IMHO No Nation. No Philosophy. No Ideology.

09-27-2009, 12:10 PM	#19
Mindcrime1204 ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,825 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I keep almost all my axes in standard... I jam with a lot of different people and its just easier that way for me. I have a 6 layin around in CGCFAD for the ones that are scared of 440

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